JerseyBills Posted March 21, 2019 Posted March 21, 2019 (edited) I know people will talk about Beane not being GM yet but him and McDermott have their fingerprints all over the 2017 draft. Just off the bat , these drafts were 'Franchise Changing'. We're going to have 8-10 starters from these drafts entering week 1 of the upcoming season! And most these guys are high end starters. That's pretty amazing. Milano - Edmunds Tre -Taron - Levi Totally rebuilt the D in 2 years, that's incredible. 5 legit starters that all played a huge part in the #2 pass defense. Harry Phillips plays a key role and can only improve. Siran Neal is okay depth but again , he can only get better. Even minus Neal , we added 6 legit contributers on defense in 2 years. Dawkins - Teller (?) Allen Foster So there's 3 legit starters , including Franchise QB . Then you got Zay , Teller , Croom as good depth and should be major contributers. That's 6 legit contributers on offense going into next year. In that 2 year span we averaged 4 starters and 6 impact players. That's amazing when you think about it. These 2 drafts already have and will continue to have a huge impact on this franchise. This is how you build a team and set them up for long term success. If we can continue to draft this well , we'd have long term,. Sustainable success. I've been saying that since they were hired . I've just had this gut feeling about them . 15 wins with their rosters is extremely impressive. Both seem to have the exact same vision and blueprint and work well together. Calculated, intelligent , patient . Big things are in store for this franchise. Edited March 21, 2019 by JerseyBills 4 1 1
Aussie Joe Posted March 21, 2019 Posted March 21, 2019 Fair comments, but I think most reasonable posters here have said they have drafted pretty well the last 2 years.. 2
Aussie Joe Posted March 21, 2019 Posted March 21, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, aceman_16 said: Nice.... but Beane wasn't here 2 drafts ago. Some people have said here that he was assisting us in 2017 from Panthers HQ.. Not that I would buy into such scuttlebutt of course Edited March 21, 2019 by Aussie Joe 1
JerseyBills Posted March 21, 2019 Author Posted March 21, 2019 7 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Some people have said here that he was assisting us in 2017 from Panthers HQ.. Not that I would buy into such scuttlebutt of course I feel McD and Beane had a very detailed gameplan going into that draft.
Aussie Joe Posted March 21, 2019 Posted March 21, 2019 Just now, JerseyBills said: I feel McD and Beane had a very detailed gameplan going into that draft. Im not so sure about that... Perhaps some opinions might have been exchanged about Dawkins..
Aussie Joe Posted March 21, 2019 Posted March 21, 2019 My biggest question about the 2017 draft.. Who found Milano? Hope that dude got a raise.. 2
QCity Posted March 21, 2019 Posted March 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: My biggest question about the 2017 draft.. Who found Milano? Hope that dude got a raise.. He's VP of football ops for the XFL. 7 1
Aussie Joe Posted March 21, 2019 Posted March 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, QCity said: He's VP of football ops for the XFL. Right.. right.. His 2016 draft was quality..
Doc Brown Posted March 21, 2019 Posted March 21, 2019 35 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Some people have said here that he was assisting us in 2017 from Panthers HQ.. Not that I would buy into such scuttlebutt of course So, can I or can I not put the blame on Beane for passing on Mahomes 3 2 3
Aussie Joe Posted March 21, 2019 Posted March 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Doc Brown said: So, can I or can I not put the blame on Beane for passing on Mahomes I guess it’s feasible in all seriousness.. Doubt BB was doing much scouting of Round 1 QB”s that year though..
BillsFan1988 Posted March 21, 2019 Posted March 21, 2019 43 minutes ago, JerseyBills said: I know people will talk about Beane not being GM yet but him and McDermott have their fingerprints all over the 2017 draft. Just off the bat , these drafts were 'Franchise Changing'. We're going to have 8-10 starters from these drafts entering week 1 of the upcoming season! And most these guys are high end starters. That's pretty amazing. Milano - Edmunds Tre -Taron - Levi Totally rebuilt the D in 2 years, that's incredible. 5 legit starters that all played a huge part in the #2 pass defense. Harry Phillips plays a key role and can only improve. Siran Neal is okay depth but again , he can only get better. Even minus Neal , we added 6 legit contributers on defense in 2 years. Dawkins - Teller (?) Allen Foster So there's 3 legit starters , including Franchise QB . Then you got Zay , Teller , Croom as good depth and should be major contributers. That's 6 legit contributers on offense going into next year. In that 2 year span we averaged 4 starters and 6 impact players. That's amazing when you think about it. These 2 drafts already have and will continue to have a huge impact on this franchise. This is how you build a team and set them up for long term success. If we can continue to draft this well , we'd have long term,. Sustainable success. I've been saying that since they were hired . I've just had this gut feeling about them . 15 wins with their rosters is extremely impressive. Both seem to have the exact same vision and blueprint and work well together. Calculated, intelligent , patient . Big things are in store for this franchise. I would say they did a solid job and part of the reason we had guys come out of nowhere was from the overall lack of talent that was on this team. That gives young players more opportunities to showcase there talents. But at the same time u have to give credit to Mcd and his staff for developing these players. On the flip side we also made some big mistakes these last 2 drafts. Mahomes was the major mistake then follow that up with a ton of young skill position guys they missed out on. Kamara, Kittle, Juju , Galladay, Kupp are a few that come to mind in 2017 and in 2018 we had Maurice Hurst just waiting to be drafted and we took another run stopper instead in Harrison. These kind of mistakes are costly as now we might spend a 1st rd pk on filling that hole at the 3T . I think overall this administration has done a good job and we are headed in the right direction but we lack game changers on this team and that will be the hardest part of this team building . Otherwise we are building to become the next Tennessee Titans a 9-7 middle pack team. 2 1
Thurman#1 Posted March 21, 2019 Posted March 21, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, JerseyBills said: I know people will talk about Beane not being GM yet but him and McDermott have their fingerprints all over the 2017 draft. Yeah, Beane does have his fingerprints all over a 2017 draft. That would be the 2017 draft of the Carolina Panthers. Here, it was McDermott who should be given most of the credit for the 2017 draft, with a bit to Whaley. As for 2018, yeah, it looks good too and Beane gets a ton of the credit. Edited March 21, 2019 by Thurman#1
HOUSE Posted March 21, 2019 Posted March 21, 2019 3 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: My biggest question about the 2017 draft.. Who found Milano? Hope that dude got a raise.. It was me 1
formerlyofCtown Posted March 21, 2019 Posted March 21, 2019 3 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: Some people have said here that he was assisting us in 2017 from Panthers HQ.. Not that I would buy into such scuttlebutt of course Beane in Carolinas War Room 2 years ago "No Mr. Gettelmen Tre White has bust written all over him shouldnt draft Tre" Lol 2 hours ago, QCity said: He's VP of football ops for the XFL. Posters are gonna hate that. Here come the pitch forks and torches. 2 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: My biggest question about the 2017 draft.. Who found Milano? Hope that dude got a raise.. It was an accident. Someone was talking about Cookie Gilchrist and the guy at the table misunderstood and thought they wanted Milano. 1 2
Shaw66 Posted March 21, 2019 Posted March 21, 2019 2 hours ago, BillsFan1988 said: I would say they did a solid job and part of the reason we had guys come out of nowhere was from the overall lack of talent that was on this team. That gives young players more opportunities to showcase there talents. I think it's pretty hard to make your case. Bills were 7-9 and 8-8 for the two years before those drafts, and they had crappy coaching except for Lynn in the second tear. How bad could the talent have been? 1
gjv001 Posted March 21, 2019 Posted March 21, 2019 I think Croom will be more than "depth". He could be a top 10 TE this season. 2
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 21, 2019 Posted March 21, 2019 15 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: I think it's pretty hard to make your case. Bills were 7-9 and 8-8 for the two years before those drafts, and they had crappy coaching except for Lynn in the second tear. How bad could the talent have been? At QB? Awful. And that was that team's ceiling.
BillsFan1988 Posted March 21, 2019 Posted March 21, 2019 20 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: I think it's pretty hard to make your case. Bills were 7-9 and 8-8 for the two years before those drafts, and they had crappy coaching except for Lynn in the second tear. How bad could the talent have been? It's obvious they gutted the roster that's why.
mcdamit Posted March 21, 2019 Posted March 21, 2019 4 hours ago, aceman_16 said: Nice.... but Beane wasn't here 2 drafts ago. year one will always have the same mystery of the last Nix/first Whaley draft 1
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