SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 19, 2019 Posted March 19, 2019 Just now, Blue on Blue said: Fake News. Alternate Truth ......
HansLanda Posted March 19, 2019 Posted March 19, 2019 28 minutes ago, Augie said: The biggest loser? In my book it’s the New Jersey Football Giants, who still need a QB. This. Darnold I think was most likely graded higher than Allen (how could he not?) but Sam should be a Giant right now. Saquon is a freak, but will get a lot of wear on the tires against 8-man boxes and no OBJ. 1
Stanley Lombardi Posted March 19, 2019 Posted March 19, 2019 1 minute ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Alternate Truth ...... It all depends on what set of massaged statistics you choose to manipulate.
HomeTeam Posted March 19, 2019 Posted March 19, 2019 Oh this is fun! I'm sure we'll be revisiting this topic for years to come. As of this moment, I'm happy with Allen. He was the right choice for Buffalo. It's still early but I'm optimistic he can take us to the promise land.
Just Joshin' Posted March 19, 2019 Posted March 19, 2019 The Jets were ahead of the Bills already. The trade limited the Bills ability to move up but it worked out for the better as the Bills used less draft capital to move into a position to draft Allen. 3
Dante Posted March 19, 2019 Posted March 19, 2019 5 hours ago, Jeetz1231 said: Yeah, the more I thought about it the more I thought about deleting it but I had already put in so much work! I have the same mentality though. I still don't trust Cali QB's Can't get the negative out of my head. Rogers is a great argument against it though. Hard to fight back on that.
yungmack Posted March 19, 2019 Posted March 19, 2019 5 hours ago, Jeetz1231 said: I don't trust Pac10 QBs Rodgers is the only one I can think of recently who has had long success, Carson Palmer worked out too but not as well as Aaron. The rest have been Matt Barkley, Sanchize, Leinart, Rosen (jury is out) Mariota (looks like he is going to fizzle out) I'm sure I am missing a few but the Pac10 has been abysmal at sending pro ready qbs in the recent past. I am good with Josh Allen. As I'm writing this I forgot about Luck he is obviously a franchise guy, and I also forgot about Goff who also seems legit. You could add Jim Plunkett, Dan Fouts, Troy Aikman and Drew Bledsoe.
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 19, 2019 Posted March 19, 2019 39 minutes ago, Blue on Blue said: It all depends on what set of massaged statistics you choose to manipulate. Lets leave Bob Kraft out of this 3
BruceVilanch Posted March 19, 2019 Posted March 19, 2019 26 minutes ago, yungmack said: You could add Jim Plunkett, Dan Fouts, Troy Aikman and Drew Bledsoe. Ryan leaf Jake locker
gordong Posted March 19, 2019 Posted March 19, 2019 I have zero doubt that Allen will be the better QB moving forward.. so Im glad it worked out the way it did.
oldmanfan Posted March 19, 2019 Posted March 19, 2019 I think each team is pleased with whom they have. 2
Beast Posted March 19, 2019 Posted March 19, 2019 The Bills were probably a bit worried the Giants were also going to select a QB at #2. I know I thought it was a possibility and it pissed me off we may lose out.
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted March 19, 2019 Posted March 19, 2019 I'd be furious too - there was a really good chance that 3 of the 4 QBs would be off the board by pick 4. This would've driven the trade-up price up even further than the amount the jets overpaid. We kind of lucked out that the giants went for barkley, and that the broncos liked chubb.
Jay_Fixit Posted March 19, 2019 Posted March 19, 2019 6 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Ben Allbright replied to that tweet yesterday with the Billswire article and said the reason they were furious had to do with their perceived ability to still get Allen, not Darnold (I cant get these tweets to embed for some reason). Allbright was in on the Bills interest in Allen the entire pre-draft period. https://twitter.com/allbrightnfl/status/1107730433377214465?s=21 @allbrightNFL They were furious, but that was because they thought it would cost them Allen, who was their guy wire to wire. https://twitter.com/salsports/status/1107811882788888581?s=21 @salsports I asked Beane specifically about the Jets trade just two weeks after it happened while at the NFL owners meetings. You can watch/listen to his answer here ( :55 mark): https://www.buffalobills.com/video/beane-our-focus-is-on-building-the-roster-20489992 Yeah, at the time I can see them being furious. But at the draft it worked out in their favor. Darnold and Mayfield were the ones I wanted, but I’m currently happy that Allen is the guy in Buffalo.
BillsFan4 Posted March 19, 2019 Posted March 19, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, billsbackto81 said: After Buffalo acquired #7 from Cincy I thought it was a brilliant move by the Jets from GM perspective to leap frog the Bills. As great as Beane has been he really screwed the pooch on that one. He didn't believe the Jets would overpay as much draft capital as they did to acquire 3. Wrong! When you're looking to get your franchise QB you should leave nothing to chance. The Jets guaranteed themselves to get Mayfield or Darnold, they didn't leave it to chance. Now if Allen was the intended target all along ( I don't think he was), then all this speculation doesn't matter. If they targeted someone other than Allen I can see them being furious because they really killed it trying to build capital to get to 7 and probably had designs to move up from there. But there really is no need to rehash any of this. Jets made their move and the Bills made theirs. We got our franchise QB and I look forward to years of epic division battles like those of the 90s. We were never ahead of the Jets in the draft order. They originally sat at #6. The Bills traded up to #12, and then the Jets traded up to #3 roughly 6+ weeks before the draft (which is extremely unusual). The Jets didn’t guarantee that they would get mayfield or Darnold. All they did was guarantee that they get their #3 QB, as at thr time many assumed that Darnold would go #1, and if he didn’t there was a report that the only QB the Giants were interested in was Darnold so it was a popular opinion that he would go #2 to the NYG if he didn’t go #1. It was a reckless movd by the Jets GM, in my opinion. He knew his job depended on getting one of the top 3 QBs in that draft. He sold the owner on that plan back at the 2017 draft when they decided to pass on Mahomes+Watson. So he was willing to be more reckless. I think that the Bills trading to #3 is all a moot point anyway. I don’t think it was possible. It was reported after the Jets trade (by Indy’s GM) that the colts weren’t willing to drop out of the top 10 in the draft. Many assumed it was so they could trade down again on draft day. But that didn’t happen... The Bills tried to trade up to #6 on draft day after the deal with the Broncos fell apart. Indy wasn’t willing to move back to #12 so they moved on to the Bucs at pick #7. Indy clearly targeted Quenton Nelson. So there’s really no reason to believe that the Bills could make the trade to #3, in my opinion. I think Beane did an excellent job playing the hand he was dealt. He ended up getting from pick #21 all the way up to pick #7 without giving up a 1st round pick, and he landed the Bills one of the top 3 available QBs in the coveted 2018 QB draft class. Edited March 19, 2019 by BillsFan4
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