C.Biscuit97 Posted March 19, 2019 Posted March 19, 2019 I respect everyone for fully being on board with Allen. But it’s funny how we would be doing the same thing if we picked Darnold and laugh at the Jets for picking a guy who completed 52% of his passes.
Figster Posted March 19, 2019 Posted March 19, 2019 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: I really liked his game vs the Bills. Arrow up. The QB class for the most part was as good as advertised and then some IMO. A good shot in the arm for the NFL... 1
Doc Posted March 19, 2019 Posted March 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: I respect everyone for fully being on board with Allen. But it’s funny how we would be doing the same thing if we picked Darnold and laugh at the Jets for picking a guy who completed 52% of his passes. If that's all you focused on, then I'd be laughing at you. 1
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 19, 2019 Posted March 19, 2019 Just now, Doc said: If that's all you focused on, then I'd be laughing at you. Dude, you’re such a homer you know you’d be doing it too. ? the far majority of the posters didn’t want Allen. 2 minutes ago, Figster said: The QB class for the most part was as good as advertised and then some IMO. A good shot in the arm for the NFL... Really? Baker was really good and the rest had their moments but they were some of the worst qbs in the league. Obviously, it’s year one but it’s goign to be tough for the match the 2017 class, which was considered a bad one.
Yav Posted March 19, 2019 Posted March 19, 2019 4 hours ago, Jeetz1231 said: I don't trust Pac10 QBs Rodgers is the only one I can think of recently who has had long success, Carson Palmer worked out too but not as well as Aaron. The rest have been Matt Barkley, Sanchize, Leinart, Rosen (jury is out) Mariota (looks like he is going to fizzle out) I'm sure I am missing a few but the Pac10 has been abysmal at sending pro ready qbs in the recent past. I am good with Josh Allen. As I'm writing this I forgot about Luck he is obviously a franchise guy, and I also forgot about Goff who also seems legit. The Pac 12 hasn't produced much but Nick Foles has done well and Jake Plummer was serviceable, but that list isn't very impressive. I personally think the QBs from USC and UCLA fail with cold weather teams. Nothing against Darnold, he looks like he's going to be a fine QB for the Jets but I honestly think the Bills had their mind set on Allen. He's got a stronger arm and he is more athletic and I believe the Bills were locked in on Allen as their top guy.
Doc Posted March 19, 2019 Posted March 19, 2019 1 minute ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Dude, you’re such a homer you know you’d be doing it too. ? the far majority of the posters didn’t want Allen. I've admitted I didn't want Allen prior to the draft and was pissed when they traded-up and passed-over Rosen over to take him. Then I saw him play. Like I said, if after his rookie season you're focusing on his 52.8% completion rate (versus Darnold's 57.7%)... 1
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 19, 2019 Posted March 19, 2019 3 hours ago, HOUSE said: If I remember correctly , the hottest rumor on ESPN was Mayfield slipping beyond #10 Allen - Darnold #1- #5 That would have been amazing.
Yav Posted March 19, 2019 Posted March 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Doc said: I've admitted I didn't want Allen prior to the draft and was pissed when they traded-up and passed-over Rosen over to take him. Then I saw him play. Like I said, if after his rookie season you're focusing on his 52.8% completion rate (versus Darnold's 57.7%)... How can anyone compare the two based off completion percentage? Allen had one of the worst WR groups in football for most of the year. If KB was on the Jets dropping balls left and right would Darnold still be at 57.7%? I'm betting not. The dropped pass by Clay for a TD vs Miami that would have won the game sums up what Allen had to deal with all season. 3
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted March 19, 2019 Posted March 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: That would have been amazing. for who?
buffaloboyinATL Posted March 19, 2019 Posted March 19, 2019 24 minutes ago, Figster said: The Buffalo Bills were said to be furious. Hahahahahaha Beane got his revenge by telling Gettleman he should trade OBJ to the Browns. “Oh thanks. We’re not interested but that sounds like a good deal, you should take it”. ?
Reed83HOF Posted March 19, 2019 Posted March 19, 2019 3 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: I’m sure the Bills were very upset -if that’s different from furious. I think they hoped or expected that everyone would keep their spots and we’d have a bevy of Draft picks while landing a can’t miss QB. When the Jets ‘Jets’d’, everyone else in the QB frenzy had to surrender hard earned choices (multiple 2nds, multiple 3rds) just to assure no team would sneak up and ruin it. We’ll likely never know if Darnold was #1 on our Board, but if it was Allen and Darnold was the Jets #1, then those idiots from jersey screwed up everybody’s hard earned capital -including their own, when they didn’t even have to. I hate them.
BmarvB Posted March 19, 2019 Posted March 19, 2019 4 hours ago, JaCrispy said: I think most fans were pretty upset that day...the Jets pulled off the trade the Bills were supposed to make....hopefully Allen will be just as good- if not better. I think Allen will turn out to be much better than Darnold. Just a hunch
Augie Posted March 19, 2019 Posted March 19, 2019 The biggest loser? In my book it’s the New Jersey Football Giants, who still need a QB. 1
JohnBonhamRocks Posted March 19, 2019 Posted March 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: I agree, I wanted Mayfield from that draft even if we needed to make a RG3 type of trade to get the number 1 pick. Allen was my second choice because he has all the tools but just needed some coaching to fix some things. Darnold was 3rd to me but it was very close between Darnold and Allen. Those three guys were the only QB's that I thought should get picked in the 1st rd of the draft. At present I still have them rated 1. Mayfield 2. Allen 3. Darnold. Agreed. Actually I was not that high on Allen and was scared of him just being a measurables guy. Much more optimistic after seeing him during his rookie year. Draft day though I had Darnold rated higher based on level of competition and football IQ. Regardless, Mayfield was far and away my QB1.
formerlyofCtown Posted March 19, 2019 Posted March 19, 2019 1 hour ago, JaCrispy said: I never said he wasn’t Your post kinda makes it sound that way. Sorry if I misunderstood. 1
Reed83HOF Posted March 19, 2019 Posted March 19, 2019 2 hours ago, HOUSE said: I am not impressed with the Jets coaching staff.. Neither will their new GM who will be hired in the next year or 2
Figster Posted March 19, 2019 Posted March 19, 2019 (edited) 45 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Dude, you’re such a homer you know you’d be doing it too. ? the far majority of the posters didn’t want Allen. Really? Baker was really good and the rest had their moments but they were some of the worst qbs in the league. Obviously, it’s year one but it’s goign to be tough for the match the 2017 class, which was considered a bad one. If you consider the circumstances the QB class had going into the NFL. HC and regime changes current or about to happen. The rookie class of QB's faced an uphill battle in terms of carrying their perspective franchises. Including Josh Allen who did one hell of a job trying in my humble opinion. Edited March 19, 2019 by Figster 2
Putin Posted March 19, 2019 Posted March 19, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, BillyWhiteShows said: It really makes you wonder whether Allen truly was their #1 target from the start...or whether he was their #1 target when it appeared that Mayfield it Darnold would be off the board. I remember watching ESPN and there were few who were suggesting that Allen could go first overall to Cleveland , even some of the mock drafts as well I still believe we got the BEST QB in that draft , and by week 6 you will ALL believe as well !!! Goooo Bills!!! Edited March 19, 2019 by Putin 1
PetermansRedemption Posted March 19, 2019 Posted March 19, 2019 44 minutes ago, Yav said: How can anyone compare the two based off completion percentage? Allen had one of the worst WR groups in football for most of the year. If KB was on the Jets dropping balls left and right would Darnold still be at 57.7%? I'm betting not. The dropped pass by Clay for a TD vs Miami that would have won the game sums up what Allen had to deal with all season. People still blame Allen for that clay drop too. Like the guy wasnt just running around for his life because his offensive line is pure trash. He got it in the vicinity to make it a very catchable ball. Clay should have caught it. It honestly reminded me of Wyoming at many times last year, where Allen would take the snap and be under immediate pressure.
BruceVilanch Posted March 19, 2019 Posted March 19, 2019 2 hours ago, LeviF91 said: I'm also curious as to why you don't think Andrew Luck factors in that equation. I said in the last sentence Andrew luck is a franchise quarterback. 1
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