Full Intelligent Breakdown of DK Metcalf

[Shaw66]

I'm sold.   I like that analysis, from Belichick all the way through.   The guy has some monster skills.  

 

Drops are a concern.  Can he respond to the process?

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

On 3/18/2019 at 7:31 PM, Mark80 said:

 

IDK, I kinda think Allen raised his "low floor" up quite a bit with his performance last season, especially in the last quarter of the season. 

 

He hurdled right over that low floor...

[Kelly the Dog]

53 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

DK's dad Terrence was an offensive lineman drafted in 3rd round of 2002 draft and played 7 years in NFL.

 

DK and his dad claim that Terry and Eric........the pro bowl father/son RB's......are cousins of theirs.   

Tough to tell them apart. When I just googled Terrence Metcalf to refresh my memory, on the front of the wiki entry it says his children are D.  K. Metcalf, and D.K. Metcalf. 

 

Plus it’s always good to have that pedigree of father in the NFL to handle in season and off season elements. Like Robert Jones did for his kids. 

[DCOrange]

33 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

Eric Metcalf initially denied it.    Then he says could be but he doesn't know them.

 

 

Wow that's so strange lol

[Solomon Grundy]

1 hour ago, BringMetheHeadofLeonLett said:

Any relation to Eric Metcalf? ... promising player, but couldn't last a single play in TB.    

 

Another season would start  for the Browns, and first play Metcalf would get carted off haha.  If injuries are a concern, I'll have to defer to Tecmo on this on- so please just no

Is this the same Eric Metcalf that was an All Pro return specialist? One of the most dynamic 3rd down RB in NFL history?

[Kelly the Dog]

2 minutes ago, the skycap said:

Is this the same Eric Metcalf that was an All Pro return specialist? One of the most dynamic 3rd down RB in NFL history?

Yup. Terry was even better. 

[billspro]

On 3/20/2019 at 7:20 PM, QuoteTheRaven83 said:

 

The best WR's are often double teamed and always produce. I'm pretty sure Calvin was double teamed in college but he managed to produce. So you're saying DK can't produce when double teamed and he's also injury prone? Thanks, but I'll pass. Stop comparing him to Calvin and Julio. Their athletic abilities can be compared but not their ability to play the game. Julio and Calvin's college production speaks for itself.

 

You guys are so hypocritical. You guys want DK because he's a freak, big, fast, jumps high but lacks the stats to back it up. The same fans that didn't want Josh Allen because he's got a cannon for an arm, big, fast,  but lacks the accuracy and completion percentage to play at the next level. I find that amusing.

 

 

 

I've already explained myself why his breakdown is pure fluff and BS. No need for the confused reaction to my post.

 

These production takes are so bad. Did you actually take the time to look up his stats?

 

He played in 6 full games and had 81, 93, 92, 102, 37, and 115 yards. He got injured in the second quarter of his 7th game but was on pace for another 100 yard game. That is pretty good production in the SEC.

On 3/20/2019 at 7:44 PM, Alphadawg7 said:

 

You can explain it all you want, doesn't mean your explanation makes sense, hence my emoticon response.  You refute a video breakdown of actual game film with a blanket comment of they didn't have the same college production.  If you think stats tell you a better story than film study, then I don't know what to tell you.

 

I don't think much of stat sheet analysts coming on and saying a guy wont be this or that because of stat sheet comparisons.  There is nothing more unreliable than only relying on stats to analyze football players.  No disrespect, but you just saying the comparison is ridiculous to Julio and Calvin because of college production is a pretty shallow review of the comparison.  Stats mislead and lie.  Film does not.  

 

If we listened to stat sheet heroes opinions of players, Josh Allen would have been an UDFA last year instead of the 7th overall pick in the NFL draft.  Quoting stats lacks any context or information.  

 

If Josh Allen isn't enough of an example to refute your stats claim against DK...lets look at yet another Buffalo Bill.  How many people here on this board keep saying Zay Jones really came on down the stretch last year?  Why?  Because they think he had back to back good games looking at a game log, but its wrong...the week 16 Pats game was one of his worst games of the year, but a garbage time TD makes that stat sheet look like he did well in a loss, which he did NOT.

 

Actually 3 of his last 4 games were terrible, including his worst game in his career and another that was easily one of his worst games of 2018.  

 

Our last 4 games of the season:

• Week 14 - Jets - 3 catches on 9 targets for 22 yards.  Terrible
• Week 15 - Lions - 1 catch on 6 targets for 11 yards.  Probably worst game of his career.  Slay dominated him as much as a DB can ever dominate a WR.
• Week 16 - Pats - 5 catches on 9 targets for 67 yards, 1 TD.  MISLEADING.  4 catches or 36 yards on 8 targets with 1:17 left in the game down 24-6.  Gets garbage 31 yard TD when no one covers him on broken coverage.  One of his worst games of the year.
• Week 17 - Dolphins - 6 catches on 9 attempts for 93 years and 2 TD's.  Only good game down the stretch, but it was also a week 17 game against an awful Miami team who mailed it in and didn't bother to show up to play.  

I don't see a guy who came on over the last stretch, I see a terrible stretch of games that was saved by one gimme game in week 17 against a bad team who had quit on its head coach already.  

 

BUT>>>>>>>>Stat sheet analysts think the Pats game was a "good" game yet he was utter trash that game was physically dominated until the game was over and saved his "stat line" with a broken play that was meaningless.  In fact, Zay only had 2 good games at all with Josh and both were against the woeful Dolphins.  

 

STATS are NOT reliable as the sole point of analysis.  They are 100% devoid of context.

 

Also, his stats are not bad, he easily gets 1000 yards this year without the injury.

[Shaw66]

On 3/20/2019 at 10:20 PM, QuoteTheRaven83 said:

 

 

You guys are so hypocritical. You guys want DK because he's a freak, big, fast, jumps high but lacks the stats to back it up. The same fans that didn't want Josh Allen because he's got a cannon for an arm, big, fast,  but lacks the accuracy and completion percentage to play at the next level. I find that amusing.

 

Mostly I think what you say here proves none of us knows what we're talking about.  Pro scouts, pro gms and pro coaches understand so much better than we who can make it and who can't.  Yet we all still talk about it like we're experts.   

 

The press and most people here were convinced that Allen had great talent and was, at best, a project, if not a wasted pick.  I'd bet that most, maybe even all, GMs knew otherwise.  

 

Whether Metcalf is Julio Jones, Megatron or Kelvin Benjamin, I don't know.   By the end of April, McBeane will know.  

[billspro]

1 minute ago, Shaw66 said:

Mostly I think what you say here proves none of us knows what we're talking about.  Pro scouts, pro gms and pro coaches understand so much better than we who can make it and who can't.  Yet we all still talk about it like we're experts.   

 

The press and most people here were convinced that Allen had great talent and was, at best, a project, if not a wasted pick.  I'd bet that most, maybe even all, GMs knew otherwise.  

 

Whether Metcalf is Julio Jones, Megatron or Kelvin Benjamin, I don't know.   By the end of April, McBeane will know.  

 

It might be a good thing he ran a bad 3 cone. He probably goes top 5 otherwise.

[wppete]

 

[NewEraBills]

 

 

[Kelly the Dog]

Just now, Shaw66 said:

Mostly I think what you say here proves none of us knows what we're talking about.  Pro scouts, pro gms and pro coaches understand so much better than we who can make it and who can't.  Yet we all still talk about it like we're experts.   

 

The press and most people here were convinced that Allen had great talent and was, at best, a project, if not a wasted pick.  I'd bet that most, maybe even all, GMs knew otherwise.  

 

Whether Metcalf is Julio Jones, Megatron or Kelvin Benjamin, I don't know.   By the end of April, McBeane will know.  

Good post, except McBeane thought Kelvin Benjamin was a #1 WR. And Boldin and Matthews and Maclin and Cotchery were good, and did nothing to keep Sammy, Woods and Goodwin. 

[rayray808]

if Daboll wants him... grab him

[NewEraBills]

1 minute ago, Kelly the Dog said:

Good post, except McBeane thought Kelvin Benjamin was a #1 WR. And Boldin and Matthews and Maclin and Cotchery were good, and did nothing to keep Sammy, Woods and Goodwin. 

 

Well let's be honest though, Gettleman thought Benjamin was a #1 and he did play like a #1 prior to the injury.  Beane and McDermott thought they were getting some of that guy and since it was relatively cheap why not take a flier.  

[Mat68]

On 3/20/2019 at 10:20 PM, QuoteTheRaven83 said:

 

The best WR's are often double teamed and always produce. I'm pretty sure Calvin was double teamed in college but he managed to produce. So you're saying DK can't produce when double teamed and he's also injury prone? Thanks, but I'll pass. Stop comparing him to Calvin and Julio. Their athletic abilities can be compared but not their ability to play the game. Julio and Calvin's college production speaks for itself.

 

You guys are so hypocritical. You guys want DK because he's a freak, big, fast, jumps high but lacks the stats to back it up. The same fans that didn't want Josh Allen because he's got a cannon for an arm, big, fast,  but lacks the accuracy and completion percentage to play at the next level. I find that amusing.

 

 

 

I've already explained myself why his breakdown is pure fluff and BS. No need for the confused reaction to my post.

It's a projection for sure.  Some players perform better in the NFL than college most do not.  Why?  Did Metcalf perform well when he was on the feild?  Yes.  Was his limited routes do to his ability or the offense.   Most unbiased analysis of him believe the offense was pedestrian.  I understand the injury concerns and could see why someone would rather go dline at 9.  Imo I do see a drop off from him to the rest of the class at wr.  

[Kelly the Dog]

3 minutes ago, NewEraBills said:

 

Well let's be honest though, Gettleman thought Benjamin was a #1 and he did play like a #1 prior to the injury.  Beane and McDermott thought they were getting some of that guy and since it was relatively cheap why not take a flier.  

The Gettleman that just gave away OBJ? That Gettleman?

[billspro]

1 minute ago, Kelly the Dog said:

The Gettleman that just gave away OBJ? That Gettleman?

 

I’m so happy he is not our GM. Still can’t believe they passed on a QB last year.

[NewEraBills]

3 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said:

The Gettleman that just gave away OBJ? That Gettleman?

Yes that Gettleman.  He drafted Benjamin.

[Shaw66]

7 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said:

Good post, except McBeane thought Kelvin Benjamin was a #1 WR. And Boldin and Matthews and Maclin and Cotchery were good, and did nothing to keep Sammy, Woods and Goodwin. 

I think we all tend to misperceive what McBeane hae been doing.  Beane tells us and we keep forgetting.  

 

YOU BUILD YOUR TEAM THROUGH THE DRAFT, AND YOU FILL HOLES IN FREE AGENCY.

 

Benjamin and Boldin and Matthews and Maclin and Cotchery all were attempts to fill holes through free agency (or trades).  If they find a keeper in the process, great, but that isn't their objective.   So you can't conclude that McBeane thought any of those guys were good.   They were guys they hoped would fill holes.  

[wppete]

I’ve been going back and forth on who I want at #9.

Ed Oliver 

Rashan Gary 

DK Metcalf

TJ Hockenson.