FeelingOnYouboty Posted April 10, 2019 Posted April 10, 2019 D.K. Metcalf is this year's Josh Allen. Most of the board wants nothing to do with him, inconsistent college career with average production but has all the measurables that NFL guys love. We will talk ourselves into Metcalf as soon as the pick is announced if we do take him. 4
SouthNYfan Posted April 10, 2019 Posted April 10, 2019 52 minutes ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: D.K. Metcalf is this year's Josh Allen. Most of the board wants nothing to do with him, inconsistent college career with average production but has all the measurables that NFL guys love. We will talk ourselves into Metcalf as soon as the pick is announced if we do take him. Yep. Exactly.
BarleyNY Posted April 10, 2019 Posted April 10, 2019 2 hours ago, JaCrispy said: I don’t want a receiver where I’m nervous about his hands before he’s even on the team...I prefer the safer bet in Hockenson...therefore I’m a “no” on the idea of Metcalf and Fant. Agree totally on passing on WRs with suspect hands in the first round. I love Hock, but any TE is a tough sell at 9 (to me anyway). I’d love a stud DE or DT. 1 hour ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: D.K. Metcalf is this year's Josh Allen. Most of the board wants nothing to do with him, inconsistent college career with average production but has all the measurables that NFL guys love. We will talk ourselves into Metcalf as soon as the pick is announced if we do take him. Most will. Those of us rooting for him, but tempering early expectations of greatness with reminders that it hasn’t happened yet will be blasted. 1
eball Posted April 10, 2019 Posted April 10, 2019 2 hours ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: D.K. Metcalf is this year's Josh Allen. Most of the board wants nothing to do with him, inconsistent college career with average production but has all the measurables that NFL guys love. We will talk ourselves into Metcalf as soon as the pick is announced if we do take him. LOL good post. Such is life as a fan. 2
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 10, 2019 Posted April 10, 2019 2 hours ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: D.K. Metcalf is this year's Josh Allen. Most of the board wants nothing to do with him, inconsistent college career with average production but has all the measurables that NFL guys love. We will talk ourselves into Metcalf as soon as the pick is announced if we do take him. Good comparison. I feel I have to be consistent though and I wasn’t a big fan of Allen and I’m not a big fan of Metcalf. I sincerely hope they prove me wrong but I think there are going to be better all around receivers available later. People love the parts of Metcalf that aren’t what makes a great receivers, and this regime hasn’t exactly killed it with their receiver pickups. 1
glazeduck Posted April 10, 2019 Posted April 10, 2019 2 hours ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: D.K. Metcalf is this year's Josh Allen. Most of the board wants nothing to do with him, inconsistent college career with average production but has all the measurables that NFL guys love. We will talk ourselves into Metcalf as soon as the pick is announced if we do take him. Comparisons to Allen go beyond that... Allen was not a "play it safe" pick -- that would've been Rosen. Allen was a "taking a shot at greatness" pick. Same goes for DK. I said in another thread (or maybe earlier in this one, can't remember) I want, and think Bills fans deserve, a team of greatness, not really goodness. It feels to me like that's what the front office is looking for, to build something special. THAT, more than anything else, is why I'm on the DK train. Let's do something special for once... 1
LABILLBACKER Posted April 10, 2019 Posted April 10, 2019 2 hours ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: D.K. Metcalf is this year's Josh Allen. Most of the board wants nothing to do with him, inconsistent college career with average production but has all the measurables that NFL guys love. We will talk ourselves into Metcalf as soon as the pick is announced if we do take him. Yes he's ripped. Yes he's a physical specimen. He can lift 1000lbs. But is he David Boston? I was hoping for more quickness. Better route tree running from his tape. I would only consider Metcalf if Oliver & Hock are gone. 1
Solomon Grundy Posted April 10, 2019 Posted April 10, 2019 7 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Yes he's ripped. Yes he's a physical specimen. He can lift 1000lbs. But is he David Boston? I was hoping for more quickness. Better route tree running from his tape. I would only consider Metcalf if Oliver & Hock are gone. You can't see him run "the route tree" on tape if the Ole Miss coaches only had him run posts, fly and quick outs. Maybe his role on the team was to run those routes to open the middle up for AJ Brown/Dawson Knox. Maybe he was so good running such routes that the coaching staff wanted to take advantage of the talent. If you go back and watch his pro day, he ran the routes asked of him pretty crisp. I love the Josh Allen analogy made earlier. You can see the talent and work ethic, now go harness it 2
SouthNYfan Posted April 10, 2019 Posted April 10, 2019 7 minutes ago, the skycap said: You can't see him run "the route tree" on tape if the Ole Miss coaches only had him run posts, fly and quick outs. Maybe his role on the team was to run those routes to open the middle up for AJ Brown/Dawson Knox. Maybe he was so good running such routes that the coaching staff wanted to take advantage of the talent. If you go back and watch his pro day, he ran the routes asked of him pretty crisp. I love the Josh Allen analogy made earlier. You can see the talent and work ethic, now go harness it Yeah I called him this year's Josh Allen in a different dk thread the other day also. Allen and Edmunds were boom-bust homerun swings. That's what dk is. Will beane and co go for another home run swing, or do they go for the slap-single this year? I think first round picks need to be home run swings on big talent, later rounds go safe imo
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 10, 2019 Posted April 10, 2019 13 minutes ago, the skycap said: You can't see him run "the route tree" on tape if the Ole Miss coaches only had him run posts, fly and quick outs. Maybe his role on the team was to run those routes to open the middle up for AJ Brown/Dawson Knox. Maybe he was so good running such routes that the coaching staff wanted to take advantage of the talent. If you go back and watch his pro day, he ran the routes asked of him pretty crisp. I love the Josh Allen analogy made earlier. You can see the talent and work ethic, now go harness it Honest question. How many college receivers, who weren’t the number 1 receiver on their college team and never had more than 700 yards in any season, have ever gone top 10? This really won’t worry you? Hes a better athlete than receiver. In a way, it’s like taking a track guy and hoping he learns how to be a nfl receiver. It can happen but it’s risky.
Solomon Grundy Posted April 10, 2019 Posted April 10, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Honest question. How many college receivers, who weren’t the number 1 receiver on their college team and never had more than 700 yards in any season, have ever gone top 10? This really won’t worry you? Hes a better athlete than receiver. In a way, it’s like taking a track guy and hoping he learns how to be a nfl receiver. It can happen but it’s risky. "Skeets" Nehemiah, Cliff Branch, Willie Anderson were all track guys Edited April 10, 2019 by the skycap
SouthNYfan Posted April 10, 2019 Posted April 10, 2019 52 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Honest question. How many college receivers, who weren’t the number 1 receiver on their college team and never had more than 700 yards in any season, have ever gone top 10? This really won’t worry you? Hes a better athlete than receiver. In a way, it’s like taking a track guy and hoping he learns how to be a nfl receiver. It can happen but it’s risky. Well he did have some injuries, which is a risk. The video also goes deep into why he "wasn't the number 1" on his team. Statistics aren't everything. Juju had better statistics than brown last season. No GM or coach in the NFL would say juju is better than brown.
Solomon Grundy Posted April 10, 2019 Posted April 10, 2019 (edited) 56 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Honest question. How many college receivers, who weren’t the number 1 receiver on their college team and never had more than 700 yards in any season, have ever gone top 10? This really won’t worry you? Hes a better athlete than receiver. In a way, it’s like taking a track guy and hoping he learns how to be a nfl receiver. It can happen but it’s risky. Like Youboty said, same as Josh Allen. Josh didn't throw 50 TDs. Didn't throw for 3,000 yds, yet he went top 10 because of the talent and upside Edited April 10, 2019 by the skycap 2
glazeduck Posted April 10, 2019 Posted April 10, 2019 1 minute ago, SouthNYfan said: Well he did have some injuries, which is a risk. The video also goes deep into why he "wasn't the number 1" on his team. Statistics aren't everything. Juju had better statistics than brown last season. No GM or coach in the NFL would say juju is better than brown. Too much logic in here, please knock that off!!! There's also the point to be made that DK is just different and fits a need that we have (whereas, Brown does not). Regardless of where he was on the pecking order at Ole Miss, AJ Brown would duplicate Beasley and Zay in too many ways for it to make sense. Buffalo has no one who can do what DK can. 2
ndirish1978 Posted April 10, 2019 Posted April 10, 2019 Production is scary but not always an indicator of success. Zay was ridiculously productive in college against inferior opponents, but he drops more passes than I'd like. Metcalf has elite physical traits that make him stand out in this class of pretty decent receivers. That said, I think the lack of production adds an added measure of uncertainty to drafting DK, which is why I'd prefer taking one of the DL prospects.
transplantbillsfan Posted April 11, 2019 Posted April 11, 2019 Thank you for posting this!!! Metcalf or Hockenson are the 2 guys I want the most, whether by trading down or staying at 9. This draft is so defense heavy we can get a really good defensive player in the 2nd or via trading back into the 1st round, which I think is a real possibility. 1
DCOrange Posted April 11, 2019 Posted April 11, 2019 From today's Albert Breer article: I wouldn’t want to fight D.K. Metcalf or race him, but I can’t find many teams that like him nearly enough to take him in the first round. Nor do I think there are many good options at the wide receiver position, period. https://amp.si.com/nfl/2019/04/11/nfl-cba-collective-bargaining-agreement-nflpa-jerry-jones-minneapolis?__twitter_impression=true
Solomon Grundy Posted April 11, 2019 Posted April 11, 2019 44 minutes ago, DCOrange said: From today's Albert Breer article: https://amp.si.com/nfl/2019/04/11/nfl-cba-collective-bargaining-agreement-nflpa-jerry-jones-minneapolis?__twitter_impression=true This is the "fake news" time of the scouting season
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