FeelingOnYouboty Posted March 28, 2019 Posted March 28, 2019 Bills have two meetings set up with Ed Oliver. McDermott just busting through his sweatpants. 1
PetermansRedemption Posted March 28, 2019 Posted March 28, 2019 Unfortunately I don’t see much chance Oliver lasts to 9 now. Unless there is a serious crazy run on QBs.
wppete Posted March 28, 2019 Author Posted March 28, 2019 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Crazy!!! Please let him be available at #9 ?
billspro Posted March 28, 2019 Posted March 28, 2019 1 hour ago, John from Riverside said: Ed Oliver has to be the favorite to be picked at 9....provided he is still there He won’t be. I think it’s more likely Allen will be there than Oliver at this point.
John from Riverside Posted March 28, 2019 Posted March 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, billspro said: He won’t be. I think it’s more likely Allen will be there than Oliver at this point. I would take Allen as well There is going to be talent there at 9 1
billspro Posted March 28, 2019 Posted March 28, 2019 22 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I would take Allen as well There is going to be talent there at 9 I think we are going to draft Burns, unless Allen or Taylor falls to us.
LSHMEAB Posted March 28, 2019 Posted March 28, 2019 38 minutes ago, billspro said: He won’t be. I think it’s more likely Allen will be there than Oliver at this point. I disagree that Allen is MORE likely to be there, but my hunch is that NEITHER will be there at 9 unfortunately. Oliver may have slipped if it weren't for his eye popping testing.
billspro Posted March 28, 2019 Posted March 28, 2019 10 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: I disagree that Allen is MORE likely to be there, but my hunch is that NEITHER will be there at 9 unfortunately. Oliver may have slipped if it weren't for his eye popping testing. We would need 3 QBs to go in the top then to have a chance at Allen. Right now I see Murray, Williams, Bosa, and Oliver as the top 4 choices. One of the other QBs goes to the Giants. Allen, White, Burns, and Taylor are probably the next 4 non-QBs. One of those guys will drop to us.
YoloinOhio Posted March 28, 2019 Posted March 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: I disagree that Allen is MORE likely to be there, but my hunch is that NEITHER will be there at 9 unfortunately. Oliver may have slipped if it weren't for his eye popping testing. I don’t think he’d have slipped. He was at one time considered the #1 overall prospect right there with Bosa. His film didn’t change that. For whatever reason he was going outside the top 5 in mocks but i don’t know why. Coat gate?
gr8billsfan Posted March 28, 2019 Posted March 28, 2019 Faster shuttle than Saquon Barkley. If he’s there at 9, Beane better call him up!
PetermansRedemption Posted March 28, 2019 Posted March 28, 2019 27 minutes ago, billspro said: We would need 3 QBs to go in the top then to have a chance at Allen. Right now I see Murray, Williams, Bosa, and Oliver as the top 4 choices. One of the other QBs goes to the Giants. Allen, White, Burns, and Taylor are probably the next 4 non-QBs. One of those guys will drop to us. If that happens I’m probably calling the Bucs and giving them whatever they want at 5 to trade back to 9. Josh Allen is a step above anyone they would get at 9. 1 2
whorlnut Posted March 28, 2019 Posted March 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, Bills2ref said: If that happens I’m probably calling the Bucs and giving them whatever they want at 5 to trade back to 9. Josh Allen is a step above anyone they would get at 9. That would be consecutive drafts that we trade up with the Bucs to draft Josh Allen... 2 4
Logic Posted March 28, 2019 Posted March 28, 2019 2 hours ago, Bills2ref said: Unfortunately I don’t see much chance Oliver lasts to 9 now. Unless there is a serious crazy run on QBs. We pick 9th. Kyler Murray Quinnen Williams Nick Bosa Clelin Ferrell Josh Allen Dwayne Haskins Rashan Gary Brian Burns TJ Hockenson Greedy Williams DK Metcalf Jonah Willams Jawaan Taylor All of the above guys are, depending on who you ask, ranked as high or higher than Ed Oliver in terms of value. SOMEBODY good is bound to slip to the Bills. Given Oliver's less than prototypical size, it's not unreasonable to think it could be him. 3
Pete Posted March 28, 2019 Posted March 28, 2019 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Logic said: We pick 9th. Kyler Murray Quinnen Williams Nick Bosa Clelin Ferrell Josh Allen Dwayne Haskins Rashan Gary Brian Burns TJ Hockenson Greedy Williams DK Metcalf Jonah Willams Jawaan Taylor All of the above guys are, depending on who you ask, ranked as high or higher than Ed Oliver in terms of value. SOMEBODY good is bound to slip to the Bills. Given Oliver's less than prototypical size, it's not unreasonable to think it could be him. Kyler Murray Quinnen Williams Nick Bosa Josh Allen Delvin White are the 5 I am almost certain that go before Oliver. Hopefully teams panic and trade up for Lock and Haskins. We need Tampa to select Sweat. I am doubting Oliver makes it to 9. Aaron Donald won back to back defensive player of the year awards. It's hard not to see similarities. Bills run to podium to select Oliver if he makes it to 9 IMO. That begs the question- what do Bills do if Oliver and those 5 are not available? Do we trade down? Do we select Gary or Wilkins? Jonah or Jawaan? DK? Hock? And if Lock and Haskins make it to 9-we are in prime spot for QB needy teams(plenty of them) to leap Denver at 10. So that just might be a nice consolation prize if we do lose out on Oliver Edited March 28, 2019 by Pete 1
whorlnut Posted March 28, 2019 Posted March 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, Pete said: Kyler Murray Quinnen Williams Nick Bosa Josh Allen Delvin White are the 5 I am almost certain that go before Oliver. Hopefully teams panic and trade up for Lock and Haskins. We need Tampa to select Sweat. I am doubting Oliver makes it to 9. Aaron Donald won back to back defensive player of the year awards. It's hard not to see similarities. Bills run to podium to select Oliver if he makes it to 9 IMO. That begs the question- what do Bills do if Oliver and those 5 are not available? Do we trade down? Do we select Gary or Wilkins? Jonah or Jawaan? DK? Hock? And if Lock and Haskins make it to 9-we are in prime spot for QB needy teams(plenty of them) to leap Denver at 10. So that just might be a nice consolation prize if we do lose out on Oliver In this scenario, I think the only two players keeping the Bills from trading down are Jawaan Taylor and T.J. Hockenson. The Bills could finish the o-line for years to come with Taylor and give Allen the best protection possible. Hockenson could provide good blocking and pass catching skills as a safety blanket to Allen. Either one would be a huge upgrade and provide us with a potential pro bowler. I think the Bills have their eyes on Jerry Tillery at 40. Apparently, they have been at a lot of ND games this year and I could see Beane being enamored with Tillery’s size. He loves prototypes. All that said, I hope we trade down and pick up a second 2 or 3. This would allow us to get another potential starter and give us ammo to move around the board. 1
Logic Posted March 28, 2019 Posted March 28, 2019 8 minutes ago, Pete said: That begs the question- what do Bills do if Oliver and those 5 are not available? Based on top 30 visits and reported Bills interest, I would suggest that the 9th pick is down to the following options (not in any particular order, because I have no idea how the Bills rank them): Jawaan Taylor, Jonah Williams, Ed Oliver, Montez Sweat, Christian Wilkins. I expect one of those five names to be called if the Bills stay at 9.
Pete Posted March 28, 2019 Posted March 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Logic said: Based on top 30 visits and reported Bills interest, I would suggest that the 9th pick is down to the following options (not in any particular order, because I have no idea how the Bills rank them): Jawaan Taylor, Jonah Williams, Ed Oliver, Montez Sweat, Christian Wilkins. I expect one of those five names to be called if the Bills stay at 9. If Haskins and Lock make it to 9- don't you think Beane's phone will be ringing off the hook with crazy, generous trade offers?
Logic Posted March 28, 2019 Posted March 28, 2019 Just now, Pete said: If Haskins and Lock make it to 9- don't you think Beane's phone will be ringing off the hook with crazy, generous trade offers? I definitely believe that if the right offer comes in, Beane would accept it. That being said, I DON'T get the impression that they're desperate to trade down. There are lots of potential difference makers at positions of need that could be available at 9 but that they'll miss out on if they trade down too far. Oliver and the two offensive tackles, for instance. Personally, I find it more likely that they pick a player at 9 and then use some of their "extra" picks this year to move BACK up into the late 1st or back up into the 2nd to take more premium players. The sheer amount of free agents they've added and the lack of ability to find spots on the roster for 10 more players leads me to believe the Bills will draft no more than 7 players come April. As such, I don't view a trade down from 9 to be as likely as some Bills fans seem to think. Just my opinion.
Jauronimo Posted March 28, 2019 Posted March 28, 2019 3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Whats even more impressive is that he refused to take his parka off in 85 degree Houston weather and still ran a 4.7. Imagine what he could have done in shorts!!!
NewEraBills Posted March 28, 2019 Posted March 28, 2019 58 minutes ago, whorlnut said: In this scenario, I think the only two players keeping the Bills from trading down are Jawaan Taylor and T.J. Hockenson. The Bills could finish the o-line for years to come with Taylor and give Allen the best protection possible. Hockenson could provide good blocking and pass catching skills as a safety blanket to Allen. Either one would be a huge upgrade and provide us with a potential pro bowler. I think the Bills have their eyes on Jerry Tillery at 40. Apparently, they have been at a lot of ND games this year and I could see Beane being enamored with Tillery’s size. He loves prototypes. All that said, I hope we trade down and pick up a second 2 or 3. This would allow us to get another potential starter and give us ammo to move around the board. If the Bills have their eyes on only 1 player at 40 they're going to be disappointed.
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