BrycePaup4ever Posted March 15, 2019 Posted March 15, 2019 Swap 1st rounders in 19. Give Texans 2nd or 3rd in 2020. ?????? 2
Rufridr101 Posted March 15, 2019 Posted March 15, 2019 Not too much for a one year deal unless it's like the Dee Ford deal
YodaMan79 Posted March 15, 2019 Posted March 15, 2019 Too much. I think they have visions of the K. Mack deal in their mind. I see a couple of of possibly very good and possibly elite production years (2), but what happens when he falls off and we're stuck? I think it's downhill from here. The Bills don't have a JJ Watt type of player opposite of him. I know everyone is super excited about FA and trades, but has any team been the FA champions and won anything? Look at all the cuts that have been made, just a short time ago a number of team and fans were excited to have them, now they can't get rid of them soon enough. 2
FeelingOnYouboty Posted March 15, 2019 Posted March 15, 2019 We're picking 9th and they they're picking 23rd. So without Clowney they'd have to give us their two 2nd round picks(54 and 55). So would you rather have Clowney or picks 54 and 55?
MAJBobby Posted March 15, 2019 Posted March 15, 2019 a Swap would be the most value I would give up (that would be 2 seconds). A better would be a conditional 2020 pick that could escalate depending on re-signing and play triggers 3
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted March 15, 2019 Posted March 15, 2019 I'm starting to think the real hurdles with trading for Clowney will be the contract that he will want.
PetermansRedemption Posted March 15, 2019 Posted March 15, 2019 I feel the Dee Ford trade laid out this trade market pretty well. I wouldn’t give up more than a 2nd rounder for Clowney. The problem is, it isn’t just a 2nd for Clowney. The true cost is the 2nd and the opportunity cost of the lost cap dollars. In Clowney’s case you are probably looking at 18-20 million per year. That’s a whole lot of cap. 2
MAJBobby Posted March 15, 2019 Posted March 15, 2019 NFL's quick release offense it going to make it harder and harder to justify paying top money for pass rushers IMO. 3
Scorp83 Posted March 15, 2019 Posted March 15, 2019 I don't mind any trade for Clowney as long as we get to keep some type of 1st Rd pick this year! Even if we give up a 4th or 5th also. I don't care what his contract will be cause whatever it is... it will be inflated with bonus perks for Clowney to try & reach like Mario Williams did. Mario got a ton of money...but man for majority of his contract, it was well worth it. That D-Line was monstrous
chris heff Posted March 15, 2019 Posted March 15, 2019 17 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: NFL's quick release offense it going to make it harder and harder to justify paying top money for pass rushers IMO. That is interesting and probably true, but wouldn’t that increase the value of a good pass rushing DT? Shortest distance is a straight line. 1
MAJBobby Posted March 15, 2019 Posted March 15, 2019 6 minutes ago, chris heff said: That is interesting and probably true, but wouldn’t that increase the value of a good pass rushing DT? Shortest distance is a straight line. I would think so. Fast way to slow a quick release offense is pressure in the face 1
Bing Bong Posted March 15, 2019 Posted March 15, 2019 29 minutes ago, Scorp83 said: I don't mind any trade for Clowney as long as we get to keep some type of 1st Rd pick this year! Even if we give up a 4th or 5th also. I don't care what his contract will be cause whatever it is... it will be inflated with bonus perks for Clowney to try & reach like Mario Williams did. Mario got a ton of money...but man for majority of his contract, it was well worth it. That D-Line was monstrous I'd love me some JaDaveon. His stock seems at its lowest right now but I've seen him take over games. Dude can ball! Plus he'd move back into his position as a 4-3 DE right. Texans playing 3-4?
bilzfancy Posted March 15, 2019 Posted March 15, 2019 If going that route, trading for a franchised player, give me Frank Clark, swapping 1st rd picks should do it 1
NewEra Posted March 15, 2019 Posted March 15, 2019 2 hours ago, YodaMan79 said: Too much. I think they have visions of the K. Mack deal in their mind. I see a couple of of possibly very good and possibly elite production years (2), but what happens when he falls off and we're stuck? I think it's downhill from here. The Bills don't have a JJ Watt type of player opposite of him. I know everyone is super excited about FA and trades, but has any team been the FA champions and won anything? Look at all the cuts that have been made, just a short time ago a number of team and fans were excited to have them, now they can't get rid of them soon enough. The chiefs set the bar with Dee Ford imo. Clowney will fetch slightly more, but no one is giving up for clowney what the bears gave up for Mack 2
BBillsWestCoast Posted March 15, 2019 Posted March 15, 2019 Interesting. I have not been a big Clowney fan, but his PFF grade says he is the real deal. Yes Cash for him would be big, however he would turn our Defense from very good to elite. Hughes would have a field day out there creating mayhem. https://www.profootballfocus.com/nfl/players/jadeveon-clowney/8636 I do agree that swapping #1's or giving up a #2 may be enough. Houston could get another LB on the cheap and we still get a solid TE/DT/OL/WR at 23.
N.Y. Orangeman Posted March 15, 2019 Posted March 15, 2019 His history with microfracture makes me nervous. 1
Jpsredemption Posted March 15, 2019 Posted March 15, 2019 All this Clowney stuff started with a bogus rumor citing a trash source on this message board. Buffalo will not give up what the Texans will ask and it’s not like there is a substantiated report that they are actually seeking to rid themselves of him.
Scorp83 Posted March 15, 2019 Posted March 15, 2019 8 hours ago, BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P said: I'd love me some JaDaveon. His stock seems at its lowest right now but I've seen him take over games. Dude can ball! Plus he'd move back into his position as a 4-3 DE right. Texans playing 3-4? Don't quote me on it ? but yea I think they do play a 3-4.
Magnum Force Posted March 15, 2019 Posted March 15, 2019 I would rather sign Ansah if his shoulder checks out and get an impact player at 9 such as Oliver. If I knew that lets say Hockenson would be available at 23.....the trade would have a lot more appeal to me then. lol That is if we knew we could get him for a swap of 1sts and a sweetener.
BakersBills Posted March 15, 2019 Posted March 15, 2019 12 hours ago, BrycePaup4ever said: Swap 1st rounders in 19. Give Texans 2nd or 3rd in 2020. ?????? Way off, he’s worth a 3rd imo. Too many good players coming out at dline this year
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