DasNootz Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 I’m in for 75 that the browns will start better than 2-5 over their first 7 games. (I don’t know when byes are yet)
BruceVilanch Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 I'll take the bet, I don't have 800 but I will put up my entire balance that they will be better than 2-5. 18 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Scary good roster on both sides. Now they just have to deBrown themselves and they should be good for a long time. De-Browning themselves will be their biggest hurdle.
vincec Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 As long as they get off to good start and are winning I don’t foresee any problems with chemistry. If they have a run of bad luck OTOH, then I can see the wheels coming off. I think they’re too good and too hungry to start badly though.
Nihilarian Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 (edited) If there is a reason as to why the Browns fail this season it's on the GM for naming the former RB coach the new HC and allowing the DC/interim HC Greg Williams leave. HC Hue Jackson replaced after going 2-5-1 and Williams going 5-3-0. Meanwhile, OC Todd Haley removed when Jackson was removed and the QB coach promoted to OC. Clearly, the GM thought someone would steal their new OC in Freddie Kitchens so he went from a RB coach to OC to HC. Like Anthony Lynn managed to do with Buffalo and then went on to HC of the Chargers. I look at this hire in the same view as the Arizona Cardinals hiring Kliff Kingsbury... a former HC at Texas Tech and had QB Patrick Mahomes as his QB there. he ran the "air raid offense at TT and his six-year record there was 35-40. While never finishing better than 5th in the Big 12 conference. Freddie! Kinda looks lost here. Edited March 14, 2019 by Nihilarian 1
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 7 hours ago, BringBackFergy said: Before all y’all go anointing the Browns as the next AFC North Champs (or AFC contenders) think about the egos in this room: * Kareem Hunt - Yeah, I know. He had mad squabbles with a babe. But the chip on his shoulder grew into a friggin’ boulder. This kid has some energy that will ultimately bubble over like Peter Brady’s science project. Instead of Marsha’s nose, it’ll be some equipment manager. * QB Baker Mayfield: Does a second year QB have the ability to reign in the egos in this locker room? Shoot no. Dude has an ego of his own. So now we have oil and water, wine and vinegar, vinegar and oil...whatever *grab crotch* * Jarvis Landry - What really needs to be said about this piece of chit? Has injured more NFL players and started more on-field fights than Matt Barnaby in his prime. This all stems from an off kilter psyche which is the gasoline on Kareem’s kindling. BOOM! * Head Coach Freddie: Let’s just say he’ll be buying “Hair for Men” at BJ’s in three to four weeks after the season starts. Dude has ultra egos to manage and as a first year head coach, he’ll be hiding in the trainer’s office by Week 5. * OBJ - I cringed at the thought of Antonio Brown but would have given him TO’s key to the city instead of this buffoon. Lock of the season: OBJ is suspended for 4 weeks due to either drugs or being a complete Summer’s Eve in some manner or method. Mega ego, and a lot of “Here’s how we did things in The City” will not go over well with the canine brigade in our Sister City. I love Cleveland, but this dude is the Slitherin to Cleveland’s Griffendor. * Myles Garrett - Will want to be traded by Week 8. I’ll bet 800 of my rep points the Browns are no better than 2-5 by October 20. Any takers? I will freely allow the mods to subtract my 800 rep points and divide them among those who bet against me...but for anyone who bets me, the mods have the right to transfer yours to me. Diary this little thread for October 20 fellas. See you then. Go Bills! but Schopp says he would much rather be the Browns for the past ten years because they know how to work the system
Doc Brown Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 56 minutes ago, Nihilarian said: If there is a reason as to why the Browns fail this season it's on the GM for naming the former RB coach the new HC and allowing the DC/interim HC Greg Williams leave. HC Hue Jackson replaced after going 2-5-1 and Williams going 5-3-0. Meanwhile, OC Todd Haley removed when Jackson was removed and the QB coach promoted to OC. Clearly, the GM thought someone would steal their new OC in Freddie Kitchens so he went from a RB coach to OC to HC. Like Anthony Lynn managed to do with Buffalo and then went on to HC of the Chargers. I look at this hire in the same view as the Arizona Cardinals hiring Kliff Kingsbury... a former HC at Texas Tech and had QB Patrick Mahomes as his QB there. he ran the "air raid offense at TT and his six-year record there was 35-40. While never finishing better than 5th in the Big 12 conference. Freddie! Kinda looks lost here. They hired two decent and experienced coordinators in Monken and Wilks. Monkens loves to air it out and had the 3rd best offense in the league with the Bucs. Wilks was a great d-coordiantor in Carolina. Gregg Williams would be a disaster as head coach with all these personalities. Kitchens seems to be more of a players coach after working under Arians for four years which will work well with all the personalities throughout the team. He's worked under Saban and Parcells too. Baker played much better when he took the reigns after Hue and Haley left. He'll go through some growing pains but he was the better pick under the unlikable G. Williams. I'm looking for a way to bash the Browns moves but I just can't find any major reasons.
Green Lightning Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 8 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said: I'll bet 50 quatloos... Nice reference. 1
atlbillsfan1975 Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 I hope Cleveland prospers. They deserve it. My concern for them is like most teams who have a ton of superstars who haven’t been developed on the same team. I also think a first time head coach has been out in a difficult spot. The players will need to get along with each other. It can happen. I do agree with the OP, it’s either going to go great or terrible.
BillsFan2313 Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 Idiot on NFL network said Landry has been an automatic 100 catch, 10 td player. Dudes never caught 10 TDs in a single year. I understand the hype they are getting, but lets no make ***** up while hyping them up.
PromoTheRobot Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 No doubt the Browns have the talent now. But you still have to play like a team to win. Just saying the job is still only half done. Same goes for the Bills. 1
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 10 hours ago, BringBackFergy said: Before all y’all go anointing the Browns as the next AFC North Champs (or AFC contenders) think about the egos in this room: * Kareem Hunt - Yeah, I know. He had mad squabbles with a babe. But the chip on his shoulder grew into a friggin’ boulder. This kid has some energy that will ultimately bubble over like Peter Brady’s science project. Instead of Marsha’s nose, it’ll be some equipment manager. * QB Baker Mayfield: Does a second year QB have the ability to reign in the egos in this locker room? Shoot no. Dude has an ego of his own. So now we have oil and water, wine and vinegar, vinegar and oil...whatever *grab crotch* * Jarvis Landry - What really needs to be said about this piece of chit? Has injured more NFL players and started more on-field fights than Matt Barnaby in his prime. This all stems from an off kilter psyche which is the gasoline on Kareem’s kindling. BOOM! * Head Coach Freddie: Let’s just say he’ll be buying “Hair for Men” at BJ’s in three to four weeks after the season starts. Dude has ultra egos to manage and as a first year head coach, he’ll be hiding in the trainer’s office by Week 5. * OBJ - I cringed at the thought of Antonio Brown but would have given him TO’s key to the city instead of this buffoon. Lock of the season: OBJ is suspended for 4 weeks due to either drugs or being a complete Summer’s Eve in some manner or method. Mega ego, and a lot of “Here’s how we did things in The City” will not go over well with the canine brigade in our Sister City. I love Cleveland, but this dude is the Slitherin to Cleveland’s Griffendor. * Myles Garrett - Will want to be traded by Week 8. I’ll bet 800 of my rep points the Browns are no better than 2-5 by October 20. Any takers? I will freely allow the mods to subtract my 800 rep points and divide them among those who bet against me...but for anyone who bets me, the mods have the right to transfer yours to me. Diary this little thread for October 20 fellas. See you then. Go Bills! ....LMAO....the "Cleveland Kardashians"........ 1
cle23 Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 5 hours ago, JerseyBills said: Buffalo has legit leaders that are heavily respected by their teammates. Lorax. Shady . Frank Gore. Hyde/Poyer/Tre going into year 3 together. Dimarco. Hughes Besides Tre , we're not relying on any young guys besides Tre and Edmunds to be leaders. No divas , no outlandish personalities , no crazy media distractions. Who does Cle have that resembles this type of leadership besides Baker. Beckham was not liked in that locker room. He dissed his QB . Was a media ***** and nowhere near a leader or respected as a man. Show me one report or player saying Beckham isn't liked. As for leaders, Damarious Randall, Landry, Christian Kirksey, Joe Schobert, Joel Bitonio, JC Tretter. Myles Garrett was voted a captain as a 2nd year player. I guarantee Mayfield will be next year.
chris heff Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 11 hours ago, BuffaloBillies said: One ball. Yep. Which one? Right or left? Oh you were talking about the football not the wager, never mind.
IgotBILLStopay Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 Quote I’ll bet 800 of my rep points the Browns are no better than 2-5 by October 20. TSW Rating Points - brand new crypto currency!! Lets do an ICO!!
MakeBuffaloGreatAgain Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 I didn’t even know there was such a thing as cred points... but I do live in Vegas, so I’m all in also!
TigerJ Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 Not so sure. Sometimes winning can keep diva egos sanguine for a while. I find in hard to imagine all those egos can mesh long term, but it might be possible they can work together for one good run.
Orlando Buffalo Posted March 15, 2019 Posted March 15, 2019 I said to my brother yesterday that browns will almost definitely be the most entertaining team this year- either by scoring a bunch of points and being a ton of fun to watch or the most fun implosion since the early 90 Mets. I look forward to it either way. 1
PlayoffsPlease Posted March 15, 2019 Posted March 15, 2019 12 hours ago, cle23 said: Show me one report or player saying Beckham isn't liked. As for leaders, Damarious Randall, Landry, Christian Kirksey, Joe Schobert, Joel Bitonio, JC Tretter. Myles Garrett was voted a captain as a 2nd year player. I guarantee Mayfield will be next year. Don't rain on the jealousy parade.
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