The_Dude Posted March 12, 2019 Posted March 12, 2019 On 3/12/2019 at 5:18 PM, snafu said: Do you get a lot of snow, salted roads, freeze/that where you live? I wonder whether the road maintenance budget in warm weather states is the same as in cold weather states. Expand When it gets cold sometimes I can see my breath.
The Red King Posted March 12, 2019 Posted March 12, 2019 On 3/12/2019 at 5:25 PM, snafu said: The Electoral College works both ways, you know. There are a lot of small blue states, like there are small red states. Expand Um...yes? Never said it was a problem that favored one party or the other. Just that it was a problem overall.
row_33 Posted March 12, 2019 Posted March 12, 2019 On 3/12/2019 at 5:26 PM, The_Dude said: When it gets cold sometimes I can see my breath. Expand all the way up your own ____________ ??? On 3/12/2019 at 5:27 PM, The Red King said: Um...yes? Never said it was a problem that favored one party or the other. Just that it was a problem overall. Expand the only thing to be said is it is THE RULES under which candidates campaign (or should) 1
snafu Posted March 12, 2019 Posted March 12, 2019 On 3/12/2019 at 5:26 PM, The_Dude said: When it gets cold sometimes I can see my breath. Expand Then your state has one less (major) reason to require toll roads. On 3/12/2019 at 5:27 PM, The Red King said: Um...yes? Never said it was a problem that favored one party or the other. Just that it was a problem overall. Expand I edited my post. To me, it isn't a problem. To you, perhaps it is.
The_Dude Posted March 12, 2019 Posted March 12, 2019 On 3/12/2019 at 5:29 PM, snafu said: Then your state has one less (major) reason to require toll roads. I edited my post. To me, it isn't a problem. To you, perhaps it is. Expand We had one. The state promised the toll would go away after X years. Then the state began to reneg. So what’d we do? We raised hell and now 400 doesn’t have tolls.
Foxx Posted March 12, 2019 Posted March 12, 2019 (edited) On 3/12/2019 at 5:23 PM, The Red King said: Specifically the all or nothing nature. If you live in a state with a heavy lean to one color, your vote carries less weight then if you live in a battlefield state. A system implemented to force canidates to focus on small states as well a big has somehow morphed to one where canidates only focus on a handful of key states. Expand it was designed with a certain purpose in mind. it works as intended and i would rather trust the forethought of our fore fathers than the johnny come lately approach because it didn't give them what they feel they should get. Edited March 12, 2019 by Foxx
DC Tom Posted March 12, 2019 Posted March 12, 2019 On 3/12/2019 at 5:04 PM, The_Dude said: I’m concerned about the amount of people on here who use the ignore feature to create a safe place. It’s like a college LGBT group up in here. Lots of precious feelings. Expand It's not about feelings, chucklehead. It's about noise. You don't hurt my feelings. I don't care enough about what a shitburglar like you thinks for you to hurt my feelings. You're just useless noise I have on mute. I swat flies, too. Not because they make me feel sad.
row_33 Posted March 12, 2019 Posted March 12, 2019 On 3/12/2019 at 5:23 PM, The Red King said: Specifically the all or nothing nature. If you live in a state with a heavy lean to one color, your vote carries less weight then if you live in a battlefield state. A system implemented to force canidates to focus on small states as well a big has somehow morphed to one where canidates only focus on a handful of key states. Expand First Past The Post is how it goes in most developed countries. The US Senate delegates that each state have equal rep as well, but why don't the usual suspects whine about this non-stop??? Oh yeah, it's only an issue when a Dem doesn't win the Presidency, and they were entitled to win?
The Red King Posted March 12, 2019 Posted March 12, 2019 On 3/12/2019 at 5:35 PM, Foxx said: it was designed with a certain purpose in mind. it works as intended and i would rather trust the forethought of our fore fathers than the johnny come lately approach because it didn't give them what the feel they should get. Expand You're making assumptions. Things evolve, and systems evolve with them. If I recall correctly, slavery was legal when the US was founded, and women were not treated as equals. I think I'd rather trust a system that is properly evaluated for the internet era we live in, rather then rely on something because it's how our pa did it, and their pa, and...
row_33 Posted March 12, 2019 Posted March 12, 2019 On 3/12/2019 at 5:38 PM, The Red King said: You're making assumptions. Things evolve, and systems evolve with them. If I recall correctly, slavery was legal when the US was founded, and women were not treated as equals. I think I'd rather trust a system that is properly evaluated for the internet era we live in, rather then rely on something because it's how our pa did it, and their pa, and... Expand yes, the GOP had to win and free the slaves anything that uses "the internet era" as righteousness is pure poison to decent living... there is a mechanism to change the Electoral College, the Amendment process, so get writing to Congress to change the 12th.... 1
Foxx Posted March 12, 2019 Posted March 12, 2019 On 3/12/2019 at 5:38 PM, The Red King said: You're making assumptions. Things evolve, and systems evolve with them. If I recall correctly, slavery was legal when the US was founded, and women were not treated as equals. I think I'd rather trust a system that is properly evaluated for the internet era we live in, rather then rely on something because it's how our pa did it, and their pa, and... Expand so again, what is wrong with the current design then? where does it fail other than the all or nothing for a state as you say? the all or nothing prevents the tyranny of the majority. do not forget, we are a republic, not a democracy.
The Red King Posted March 12, 2019 Posted March 12, 2019 On 3/12/2019 at 5:39 PM, row_33 said: yes, the GOP had to win and free the slaves anything that uses "the internet era" as righteousness is pure poison to decent living... Expand Are...you even reading my posts? Or did you just (incorrectly) assume I was a headstrong dem and started spewing random propoganda? People like you scare me...
row_33 Posted March 12, 2019 Posted March 12, 2019 1. the rules are set 2. one campaigns by the rules that are set 3. boo fricking hoo that you lost by these rules should have got off your rear end and campaigned in battleground states, sweetie. On 3/12/2019 at 5:42 PM, The Red King said: Are...you even reading my posts? Or did you just (incorrectly) assume I was a headstrong dem and started spewing random propoganda? People like you scare me... Expand yes, you said because people did things in the past that we should totally go the opposite way because it's the internet era.
3rdnlng Posted March 12, 2019 Posted March 12, 2019 On 3/12/2019 at 5:41 PM, Foxx said: so again, what is wrong with the current design then? where does it fail other than the all or nothing for a state as you say? the all or nothing prevents the tyranny of the majority. do not forget, we are a republic, not a democracy. Expand Yes, but whose choice is the "all or nothing" approach? Hint: we have 50 of them or 57 according to Obama.
row_33 Posted March 12, 2019 Posted March 12, 2019 do you plan on lasting more than another hour here? develop at least a partial skin of irony for enjoyment...
The Red King Posted March 12, 2019 Posted March 12, 2019 On 3/12/2019 at 5:41 PM, Foxx said: so again, what is wrong with the current design then? where does it fail other than the all or nothing for a state as you say? the all or nothing prevents the tyranny of the majority. do not forget, we are a republic, not a democracy. Expand I take issue that an individual's vote carries different weight depending what state you live in. It is a system that forces canidates to focus only on battlefield states.
row_33 Posted March 12, 2019 Posted March 12, 2019 On 3/12/2019 at 5:43 PM, 3rdnlng said: Yes, but whose choice is the "all or nothing" approach? Hint: we have 50 of them or 57 according to Obama. Expand i welcome states opting to split the electoral college vote along popular lines, they all are Democratic States so they can gladly hand a proportion over to the GOP Party any time it would thrill their little hearts. On 3/12/2019 at 5:44 PM, The Red King said: I take issue that an individual's vote carries different weight depending what state you live in. It is a system that forces canidates to focus only on battlefield states. Expand well, there's been over 200 years of argument about it.... and there is a process to amend the 12th Amendment to your Constitution.... good luck with it...
3rdnlng Posted March 12, 2019 Posted March 12, 2019 On 3/12/2019 at 5:44 PM, The Red King said: I take issue that an individual's vote carries different weight depending what state you live in. It is a system that forces canidates to focus only on battlefield states. Expand It would appear as if you think we are a straight democracy.
TakeYouToTasker Posted March 12, 2019 Posted March 12, 2019 On 3/12/2019 at 5:44 PM, The Red King said: I take issue that an individual's vote carries different weight depending what state you live in. It is a system that forces canidates to focus only on battlefield states. Expand People who complain about problems without having a solution, or better yet several, in mind don’t get to spend much time in my office. What is your proposal?
row_33 Posted March 12, 2019 Posted March 12, 2019 On 3/12/2019 at 5:46 PM, 3rdnlng said: It would appear as if you think we are a straight democracy. Expand i thought it was a Republic
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