YodaMan79 Posted March 9, 2019 Posted March 9, 2019 (edited) While the front office still thinks McCoy has something left, other savvy front offices are feeling these two out, they should grab one sooner rather than later. Duke signed a horrible contract (for him) and at 25 has some quality years ahead. Talk from "media insiders" speculate he could be had for a 4th or 5th round choice. I've read a couple of articles from Cleveland based outlets all but begging the Browns not to trade him. Get the deal done. I'd feel very good about Gore, Johnson and a draft pick. If McCoy is let go a bunch of his apologists would see how little value he has in the league. Edited April 2, 2019 by YodaMan79
Teddy KGB Posted March 9, 2019 Posted March 9, 2019 Just now, FluffHead said: Duke yes Hyde no Nailed it. Hyde doesn’t really bring much at this point 1
YodaMan79 Posted March 9, 2019 Author Posted March 9, 2019 I think KC and Andy Reid know a little something about the RB position. Where do you think Hyde's first visit is? 2
Rc2catch Posted March 9, 2019 Posted March 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, CommonCents said: Draft a back, stop paying for trash. Duke Johnson is far from trash. Have you ever watched that guy play? 2
BuffaloBillies Posted March 9, 2019 Posted March 9, 2019 Does Marcus Murphy have no chance on this team? I actually liked what I saw out of him before he was injured. Is he all but gone?
CommonCents Posted March 9, 2019 Posted March 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: Duke Johnson is far from trash. Have you ever watched that guy play? Yeah he can’t take a hit, Kmart version of Kamara. 1
DCOrange Posted March 9, 2019 Posted March 9, 2019 31 minutes ago, YodaMan79 said: While the front office still thinks McCoy has something left, other savvy front offices are feeling these two out, they should grab one sooner rather than later. Duke signed a horrible contract (for him) and at 25 has some quality years ahead. Talk from "media insiders" speculate he could be had for a 4th or 5th round choice. I've read a couple of articles from Cleveland based outlets all but begging the Browns not to trade him. Duke has been a backup his entire career and his contract gives him top 10-15 RB money in terms of cap hit. In what way is that a bad deal for him? He’s probably not worth the money. If Buffalo gets rid of McCoy, I’d be okay with Duke and a rookie but paying for both he and McCoy would be bad. 1
H2o Posted March 9, 2019 Posted March 9, 2019 I liked Duke Johnson when he was at Miami. I think he could be an incredibly productive RB if he were featured. He still has relatively low miles for being a few years in the league already. I would be all for bringing him in via a mid-round pick.
Rico Posted March 9, 2019 Posted March 9, 2019 After Preston and the S Williams, let's see what the WR Williams does before we bring in any more Dukes.
Doc Posted March 9, 2019 Posted March 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, Rico said: After Preston and the S Williams, let's see what the WR Williams does before we bring in any more Dukes. You mean besides WR "Duke" Williams?
White Linen Posted March 9, 2019 Posted March 9, 2019 I'm not saying please for either of these players.
Rico Posted March 9, 2019 Posted March 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Doc said: You mean besides WR "Duke" Williams? That's what I said, the WR Williams. The other 2 Duke's were dogs#$%.
Doc Posted March 9, 2019 Posted March 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, Rico said: That's what I said, the WR Williams. The other 2 Duke's were dogs#$%. Oops. My bad.
Bob in NoCal Posted March 9, 2019 Posted March 9, 2019 24 minutes ago, BuffaloBillies said: Does Marcus Murphy have no chance on this team? I actually liked what I saw out of him before he was injured. Is he all but gone? I'd like to know the answer to this, too. Whenever he spelled McCoy, it was nice to see someone hit the hole hard and fast. ( on the rare occasion that there was a hole to hit )
PirateHookerMD Posted March 9, 2019 Posted March 9, 2019 I am firmly I the camp that outside of a handful of players that RBs are a dime a dozen. Draft someone in the 4-6th round. 1
Andrew Son Posted March 9, 2019 Posted March 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, PirateHookerMD said: I am firmly I the camp that outside of a handful of players that RBs are a dime a dozen. Draft someone in the 4-6th round. Yep, invest in the line and the rest will take care of itself. 2
YodaMan79 Posted March 9, 2019 Author Posted March 9, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, White Linen said: Duke has been a backup his entire career and his contract gives him top 10-15 RB money in terms of cap hit. In what way is that a bad deal for him? He’s probably not worth the money. If Buffalo gets rid of McCoy, I’d be okay with Duke and a rookie but paying for both he and McCoy would be bad. He can be had for the next two years at approximately $7.8 million total. In 2022 you can keep him for 5.9 million if the team chooses. His total contract is $15.6. In a small snapshot yes, he's currently in the top 15 category. He won't be there for long, at the end of FA and extensions he'll be in the 30's. Year Age Base Salary Prorated Bonus Roster Bonus Per Game Roster Bonus Workout Bonus Guaranteed Salary Cap Number Cap % Dead Money & Cap Savings Cut (pre-June 1)Cut (post-June 1)Trade (pre-June 1)Trade (post-June 1)RestructureExtension Total $11,007,000 $3,177,523 $2,000,000 $1,200,000 $310,000 $2,957,000 $17,694,523 2018 25 $957,000 $927,523 $2,000,000 $0 $10,000 $2,957,000 $3,894,523 2.2% 2019 ? 26 $1,800,000 $750,000 $0 $400,000 $100,000 $0 $3,050,000 1.6% $2,250,000 $800,000 2020 27 $3,600,000 $750,000 $0 $400,000 $100,000 $0 $4,850,000 2.4% $1,500,000 $3,350,000 2021 28 $4,650,000 $750,000 $0 $400,000 $100,000 $0 $5,900,000 -- $750,000 $5,150,000 How much have the Bills put out in RB money the past three years? ---- over $34 million They're both better than anything we've seen on the field in a number of years in a complimentary RB role. They'd go great with a rookie RB. Spending wisely here will allow the team to put more money on the important positions on the OL and DL. Edited March 9, 2019 by YodaMan79
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