Rufridr101 Posted April 20, 2019 Posted April 20, 2019 (edited) I'm hearing the jets are interested but don't have enough picks. That's why they are determined to trade back from 3 and gain enough fire power to trade with Seattle Edited April 20, 2019 by Rufridr101 1
Reed83HOF Posted April 20, 2019 Posted April 20, 2019 4 hours ago, DCOrange said: Saw this on Rotoworld this morning: LOL Ian R. 1
Rufridr101 Posted April 20, 2019 Posted April 20, 2019 I think alot of these deals are done already but the NFL league office wants it all hush hush. I really think he's gonna end up in Oakland.
Boatdrinks Posted April 20, 2019 Posted April 20, 2019 9 minutes ago, Rufridr101 said: I'm hearing the jets are interested but don't have enough picks. That's why they are determined to trade back from 3 and gain enough fire power to trade with Seattle I could see this. Jets move down from 3, recoup some of their sacrificed picks from last year, then make a move for Clark with a not so high first rounder.
Rocket94 Posted April 20, 2019 Posted April 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: LOL Ian R. You know...it is draft time. This idea about Clark is not totally unreasonable. We do know that at least attempts were made for some kind of dialogue. 1
BuffAlone Posted April 20, 2019 Posted April 20, 2019 Great player. Great baggage. Great cost. Its a definite NO for me. I'd rather look elsewhere for DE help, take my chances, and save my capital for next time. JMO
Reed83HOF Posted April 20, 2019 Posted April 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Rocket94 said: You know...it is draft time. This idea about Clark is not totally unreasonable. We do know that at least attempts were made for some kind of dialogue. My comment had nothing to do about Clark, just about Ian R and his reputation right now
DJB Posted April 20, 2019 Posted April 20, 2019 7 minutes ago, CNY315 said: Then he won't be a Bill. No chance Beane moves a top 10 pick for him
RocCityRoller Posted April 20, 2019 Posted April 20, 2019 32 minutes ago, CNY315 said: I'm out at #9. Perhaps Buffalo trades #9 to Green Bay and gets 12 & 30, Pick a guy like Hock at 12 and then trade 30 to Seattle for Clark?
Estro Posted April 20, 2019 Posted April 20, 2019 14 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said: I'm out at #9. Perhaps Buffalo trades #9 to Green Bay and gets 12 & 30, Pick a guy like Hock at 12 and then trade 30 to Seattle for Clark? If you're of the belief that trading down from #9 can get you picks 12 and 30 than you're either the biggest Bill's homer or you dont understand the trade value chart. That would be an all time fleecing on the Bills part. The Bills would be happy to get a 3rd rounder to move back 3 spots.
HappyDays Posted April 20, 2019 Posted April 20, 2019 58 minutes ago, CNY315 said: Interesting choice of words, if he were to be traded "before Thursday's draft." Perhaps meaning that if there's no takers by then, they'll accept a 2nd. I still think the most sensible trade would be switching 1sts with them. 1
Lurker Posted April 20, 2019 Posted April 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Estro said: If you're of the belief that trading down from #9 can get you picks 12 and 30 than you're either the biggest Bill's homer or you dont understand the trade value chart. As a public service... http://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart.asp RD1 RD2 RD3 RD4 RD5 RD6 RD7 PK/TM VAL PK/TM VAL PK/TM VAL PK/TM VAL PK/TM VAL PK/TM VAL PK/TM VAL 1 ARI 3000 33 ARI 580 65 ARI 265 103 ARI 88 139 ARI 36 174 ARI 21.4 215 TB 5 2 SF 2600 34 IND 560 66 PIT 260 104 SF 86 140 OAK 35.5 175 PIT 21 216 KC 4.6 3 NYJ 2200 35 OAK 550 67 SF 255 105 NYJ 84 141 PIT 35 176 SF 20.6 217 NYJ 4.2 4 OAK 1800 36 SF 540 68 NYJ 250 106 OAK 82 142 NYG 34.5 177 NO 20.2 218 OAK 3.8 5 TB 1700 37 NYG 530 69 JAX 245 107 TB 80 143 NYG 34 178 JAX 19.8 219 PIT 3.4 6 NYG 1600 38 JAX 520 70 TB 240 108 NYG 78 144 CLE 33.5 179 ARI 19.4 220 HOU 3 7 JAX 1500 39 TB 510 71 DEN 235 109 JAX 76 145 TB 33 180 NYG 19 221 CLE 2.6 8 DET 1400 40 BUF 500 72 CIN 230 110 CIN 74 146 DET 32.6 181 BUF 18.6 222 CHI 2.3 9 BUF 1350 41 DEN 490 73 NE 225 111 DET 72 147 BUF 32.2 182 DEN 18.2 223 CIN 2 10 DEN 1300 42 CIN 480 74 BUF 220 112 BUF 70 148 DEN 31.8 183 CIN 17.8 224 DET 1.7 11 CIN 1250 43 DET 470 75 GB 215 113 BAL 68 149 CIN 31.4 184 DET 17.4 225 BUF 1.4 12 GB 1200 44 GB 460 76 WAS 210 114 GB 66 150 GB 31 185 GB 17 226 GB 1.1 13 MIA 1150 45 ATL 450 77 CAR 205 115 CAR 64 151 MIA 30.6 186 ATL 16.6 227 WAS 1 14 ATL 1100 46 WAS 440 78 MIA 200 116 MIA 62 152 ATL 30.2 187 CAR 16.2 228 BUF 1 15 WAS 1050 47 CAR 430 79 ATL 195 117 ATL 60 153 WAS 29.8 188 TEN 15.8 229 DET 1 16 CAR 1000 48 MIA 420 80 CLE 190 118 GB 58 154 CAR 29.4 189 CLE 15.4 230 ATL 1 17 NYG 950 49 CLE 410 81 MIN 185 119 CLE 56 155 CLE 29 190 MIN 15 231 NO 1 18 MIN 900 50 MIN 400 82 TEN 180 120 MIN 54 156 DEN 28.6 191 BAL 14.6 232 NYG 1 19 TEN 875 51 TEN 390 83 PIT 175 121 TEN 52 157 TEN 28.2 192 PIT 14.2 233 MIA 1 20 PIT 850 52 PIT 380 84 SEA 170 122 PIT 50 158 BUF 27.8 193 BAL 13.8 234 MIA 1 21 SEA 800 53 PHI 370 85 BAL 165 123 BAL 49 159 SEA 27.4 194 GB 13.4 235 OAK 1 22 BAL 780 54 HOU 360 86 HOU 160 124 SEA 48 160 BAL 27 195 HOU 13 236 JAX 1 23 HOU 760 55 HOU 350 87 CHI 155 125 DEN 47 161 HOU 26.6 196 NYJ 12.6 237 DEN 1 24 OAK 740 56 NE 340 88 DET 150 126 CHI 46 162 CHI 26.2 197 PHI 12.2 238 CHI 1 25 PHI 720 57 PHI 330 89 IND 145 127 PHI 45 163 PHI 25.8 198 CIN 11.8 239 NE 1 26 IND 700 58 DAL 320 90 DAL 140 128 DAL 44 164 IND 25.4 199 IND 11.4 240 IND 1 27 OAK 680 59 IND 310 91 LAC 136 129 IND 43 165 DAL 25 200 LAC 11 241 DAL 1 28 LAC 660 60 LAC 300 92 KC 132 130 LAC 42 166 LAC 24.6 201 KC 10.6 242 LAC 1 29 KC 640 61 KC 292 93 NYJ 128 131 BUF 41 167 KC 24.2 202 NO 10.2 243 NE 1 30 GB 620 62 NO 284 94 LAR 124 132 NYG 40 168 NO 23.8 203 LAR 9.8 244 NO 1 31 LAR 600 63 KC 276 95 NYG 120 133 LAR 39 169 LAR 23.4 204 DET 9.4 245 NYG 1 32 NE 590 64 NE 270 96 WAS 116 134 NE 38.5 170 CLE 23 205 NE 9 246 NE 1 97 NE 112 135 IND 38 171 NYG 22.6 206 WAS 8.6 247 MIN 1 98 JAX 108 136 DAL 37.5 172 ATL 22.2 207 PIT 8.2 248 ARI 1 99 LAR 104 137 ATL 37 173 WAS 21.8 208 TB 7.8 249 ARI 1 100 CAR 100 138 PHI 36.5 209 MIN 7.4 250 MIN 1 101 NE 96 210 CIN 7 251 LAR 1 102 BAL 92 211 CIN 6.6 252 NE 1 212 SF 6.2 253 WAS 1 213 CIN 5.8 254 ARI 1 214 KC 5.4
Stank_Nasty Posted April 21, 2019 Posted April 21, 2019 (edited) On 4/17/2019 at 7:24 PM, BuffAlone said: Frank Clark...convicted felon for home invasion. Frank Clark...convicted on DV and related charges. Frank Clark....tweeted threats to a female reporter covering his DV. Frank Clark...allegedly told hotel staff "I'll hit you like I hit her." Frank Clark...does not meet process. Frank Clark will not be welcomed into the process, or building for that matter, by Terry OR Kim. This thread is for naught National FOOTBALL league. Not the national Good Samaritan league. He was a really dumb jerk of a college kid.... Dude has been clean as a whistle for over 5 years now. He never threatened a reporter. He said she could have job cleaning his fish tank when her career was over. Get over it man. If the asking price is right, you bring him in. No brainer. Edited April 21, 2019 by Stank_Nasty
BuffAlone Posted April 21, 2019 Posted April 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Stank_Nasty said: National FOOTBALL league. Not the national Good Samaritan league. He was a really dumb jerk of a college kid.... Dude has been clean as a whistle for over 5 years now. He never threatened a reporter. He said she could have job cleaning his fish tank when her career was over. Get over it man. If the asking price is right, you bring him in. No brainer. I don't need to get over anything. I don't have a personal beef with the dude. I realize he's a great player. My only point is our owners / coach/ GM will not sign off on a 1st rd pick, 17 mil per year convicted felon. It simply won't happen. Especially during the draft.
Stank_Nasty Posted April 21, 2019 Posted April 21, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, BuffAlone said: I don't need to get over anything. I don't have a personal beef with the dude. I realize he's a great player. My only point is our owners / coach/ GM will not sign off on a 1st rd pick, 17 mil per year convicted felon. It simply won't happen. Especially during the draft. If their only reasoning for not wanting him is because he got convicted of a felony as a college kid, meanwhile staying out of trouble ever since, then I would seriously worry about them running the franchise. There may be plenty of other factors in there that we don’t know about as they have access to info we never will. but if your reasoning is the main reason why then I would be worried about the intelligence of who’s running the team. Seems you may be projecting your own definition of “process” here...... I would hope they are smarter than that. And I’m confident they are Edited April 21, 2019 by Stank_Nasty
Rufridr101 Posted April 21, 2019 Posted April 21, 2019 41 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Interesting choice of words, if he were to be traded "before Thursday's draft." Perhaps meaning that if there's no takers by then, they'll accept a 2nd. I still think the most sensible trade would be switching 1sts with them. That's what I think. The raiders have cap space? If not pick 40 and 131 pick 158
RocCityRoller Posted April 21, 2019 Posted April 21, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Estro said: If you're of the belief that trading down from #9 can get you picks 12 and 30 than you're either the biggest Bill's homer or you dont understand the trade value chart. That would be an all time fleecing on the Bills part. The Bills would be happy to get a 3rd rounder to move back 3 spots. wow that was angry... didn't have Jimmy Johnson's trade chart in front of me. Its assumed other picks would be included. bring it down a level pal Edited April 21, 2019 by RocCityRoller 1
BuffAlone Posted April 21, 2019 Posted April 21, 2019 22 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said: If their only reasoning for not wanting him is because he got convicted of a felony as a college kid, meanwhile staying out of trouble ever since, then I would seriously worry about them running the franchise. There may be plenty of other factors in there that we don’t know about as they have access to info we never will. but if your reasoning is the main reason why then I would be worried about the intelligence of who’s running the team. Seems you may be projecting your own definition of “process” here...... I would hope they are smarter than that. And I’m confident they are He hasn't stayed out of trouble since. And his price is too high. I'm not projecting any process because, well...I'm not exactly sure what it is yet, but I'll trust it. That said, regardless of MY opinion of him, which I'm not trying to convey at all, I strongly believe that our team pres, owner, coach, GM would not pay for his services at such a high price, and baggage included. A 1st rd pick, and 17 mil a year is a high price for anything other than a squeaky clean, highly productive( not that he's not), face of the franchise type player. That's just my opinion as to how I think this F.O. operates
DJB Posted April 21, 2019 Posted April 21, 2019 He has off field issies and wants 20+ on a new contract. Nobody is giving more than a late first. Bills give 2nd and Shaq for F Clark. Bills give a 5th and 7th for G McCoy. Draft Hockenson at 9. Myles Boykin ND WR and Kaleb Mcgary Wsh OT
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