DJB Posted March 8, 2019 Posted March 8, 2019 Im looking forward to Antonio Brown Bills appreciation day . I wonder what week that will be
Jay_Fixit Posted March 8, 2019 Posted March 8, 2019 49 minutes ago, Logic said: Good for you, chief! I go to bed at 9 because I start work at 5am. I don't have a smart phone and, thus, don't receive notifications about football. Just weird that you mentioned west coast when we’re 3 hours behind everything else.
Teddy KGB Posted March 8, 2019 Posted March 8, 2019 26 minutes ago, Figster said: Quit, or knew his body needed a little time to heal? I mean considering A B was the most productive player on the Steelers O which stands to reason AB was working the hardest. How about a little respect from the idiot HC? Two sides to the story IMO K-9 Quitter. Be real. 1
Magox Posted March 8, 2019 Posted March 8, 2019 23 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: If you read everything I wrote on it I am not upset AB said Nope. I understand why he said Nope and refuse to flame him for that, it just seems that makes me the bad guy here again. Not the "bad" guy but the unreasonable guy, not unlike many fans. So you are in good company. Unreasonable because the past ineptitude with this organization has very little to do with this current regime. This current regime had a plan to begin with and anyone who read in between the lines and can actually view them from the actions they have committed can see that they unloaded a lot of the "talent" this team had because it didn't fit what they believe their team should field. We can judge them reasonably in the next year or two to see whether or not they made the right decisions with some of the people they traded away or decided not to pick up. But it's clear they wanted to instill their defense and search for a franchise QB in the first couple two years. From most accounts, the defense is on very solid footing and there is certainly a lot of hope with what we've seen from Josh Allen. They now have lots of money and draft capital to shore up the team. Rather than applaud the FO for kicking the tires on AB, you'd rather focus your ire on Beane and company and have them pay for the past sins of this organization and criticize a somewhat raw hopeful rookie for not tearing it up with passing stats is unreasonable. When you say "where WR"s go to die" and use that as a hammer to bludgeon this FO that is another unreasonable statement. Why? Because the QB they had in year one (Tyrod) was part of that problem and this FO acted quickly on it and made all sorts of trades to get the draft capital to get THEIR guy. So that "where WR's go to die" trope is not relevant to this FO. That's why you are getting the criticism and deservedly so. 2 1
Logic Posted March 8, 2019 Posted March 8, 2019 Just now, Jay_Fixit said: Just weird that you mentioned west coast when we’re 3 hours behind everything else. Fair enough. I was thinking of it from a "waking up" perspective, and less so from a "going to bed" perspective.
oldmanfan Posted March 8, 2019 Posted March 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: every year someone leaves. ahhh they sucked. Look at well lets say Woods. Every year it is just the same thing, talent leaving this team and the fan base eating it up. I have been on record since this Regime came into Bills there was absolutely zero need to throw the baby out with the bath water, liked they chose too. But what happens all these same fans defend it. Then use the excuse of wait until they have cap space, well they cause the cap issue last year. So I wait. I am going on year not THREE waiting to see what a legacy defensive coach and his puppet GM that preach family and DNA and Culture actually put on the offensive side of the field, because well it has been Laughable now for two years. guess year is a charm. o will it be this time next offseason with the same fans telling me I am BLIND to what they are building? They put their young QB on the field. The one that showed a lot of promise. The one that was drafted higher than any QB in team history. But of course that's ignored. I applaud you service for our country. But as a Bills fan you're a joke. 2
Jay_Fixit Posted March 8, 2019 Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Logic said: Fair enough. I was thinking of it from a "waking up" perspective, and less so from a "going to bed" perspective. I dig it brotha. 1
MAJBobby Posted March 8, 2019 Posted March 8, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Magox said: Not the "bad" guy but the unreasonable guy, not unlike many fans. So you are in good company. Unreasonable because the past ineptitude with this organization has very little to do with this current regime. This current regime had a plan to begin with and anyone who read in between the lines and can actually view them from the actions they have committed can see that they unloaded a lot of the "talent" this team had because it didn't fit what they believe their team should field. We can judge them reasonably in the next year or two to see whether or not they made the right decisions with some of the people they traded away or decided not to pick up. But it's clear they wanted to instill their defense and search for a franchise QB in the first couple two years. From most accounts, the defense is on very solid footing and there is certainly a lot of hope with what we've seen from Josh Allen. They now have lots of money and draft capital to shore up the team. Rather than applaud the FO for kicking the tires on AB, you'd rather focus your ire on Beane and company and have them pay for the past sins of this organization and criticize a somewhat raw hopeful rookie for not tearing it up with passing stats is unreasonable. When you say "where WR"s go to die" and use that as a hammer to bludgeon this FO that is another unreasonable statement. Why? Because the QB they had in year one (Tyrod) was part of that problem and this FO acted quickly on it and made all sorts of trades to get the draft capital to get THEIR guy. So that "where WR's go to die" trope is not relevant to this FO. That's why you are getting the criticism and deservedly so. Again do you think AB cares about what may be on the future, with a Unknown at QB. I never ONCE has said this regime is the blame for the perception that Buffalo is the place where WR go to die. I said that is based on history and the current perception in the league. My question that everyone that wants to call me negative or incoherent or whatever other thing they can say to avoid answering the question. In two years has this regime done ANYTHING on offense that would inspire a WR to look at the new regime and say OK that is NOT a place that WR go to die. And instead actually want to come here. I get it, I know why and am happy the Bills went after AB. I also get it and no why AB said NO. what the other people here refuse to see is why he would say No Edited March 8, 2019 by MAJBobby
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 8, 2019 Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, oldmanfan said: They put their young QB on the field. The one that showed a lot of promise. The one that was drafted higher than any QB in team history. But of course that's ignored. I applaud you service for our country. But as a Bills fan you're a joke. Glad I'm not the only person here with that opinion. 1
MAJBobby Posted March 8, 2019 Posted March 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: They put their young QB on the field. The one that showed a lot of promise. The one that was drafted higher than any QB in team history. But of course that's ignored. I applaud you service for our country. But as a Bills fan you're a joke. Again WHAT has JOSH ALLEN done to have WRs like AB say ok yep I am going there. AVG Less than 200 yards a game More INTS than TDs They took a step maybe (only if Allen improves) But in terms of a WR to look at Allen and see anything other than a big ? you are naive
MAJBobby Posted March 8, 2019 Posted March 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Glad I'm not the only person here with that opinion. Yes the typical you are not a fan because you are pointing out something negative about the team
SCBills Posted March 8, 2019 Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Again WHAT has JOSH ALLEN done to have WRs like AB say ok yep I am going there. AVG Less than 200 yards a game More INTS than TDs They took a step maybe (only if Allen improves) But in terms of a WR to look at Allen and see anything other than a big ? you are naive Did you actually watch our games or are you just regurgitating box scores? 1 1
billspro Posted March 8, 2019 Posted March 8, 2019 25 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I don't agree. I still think he got separation and he was the best player on the Steelers again. I think any perceived production drop off (and the guy scored 15 TDs for crying out loud) should be attributed entirely to a Steelers offense that seemed to lose a sense of its identity in 2018. Without Lev Bell they started the season with no balance, throwing the ball all around the field then they decided that wasn't working and force fed Conner for 4 or 5 weeks and then by the time they hit the stretch run they were a mess of an offense relying entirely on talent and not really doing anything well schematically. They got away from themselves in trying to adjust to losing the best back in football. And in indulging Big Ben's propensity to blame everyone else when things go south they have cost themselves the best receiver in football too. I’m not saying he isn’t still good. He was probably the 4th best WR behind Thomas, Hopkins, and Hill. Prior to that he was the consensus best WR in the game. He still has a couple good years left too. When you get into year 4 and 5 of his next deal you will have some regrets if he didn’t get you a Super Bowl.
MAJBobby Posted March 8, 2019 Posted March 8, 2019 Just now, SCBills said: Did you actually watch our games or are you just regurgitating box scores? Do you think AB actually cares if he ran all over the place?
Reed83HOF Posted March 8, 2019 Posted March 8, 2019 29 minutes ago, K-9 said: It was his, and HIS ALONE, decision to QUIT. I don't care how much of an A Hole his coach is. I don't care how much of a douche Big Ben is. Antonio Brown decided to QUIT on his teammates, coaches, and fans during a playoff chase. Period. And that is exactly the issue, he put himself above the team.
Alphadawg7 Posted March 8, 2019 Posted March 8, 2019 12 minutes ago, Magox said: Not the "bad" guy but the unreasonable guy, not unlike many fans. So you are in good company. Unreasonable because the past ineptitude with this organization has very little to do with this current regime. This current regime had a plan to begin with and anyone who read in between the lines and can actually view them from the actions they have committed can see that they unloaded a lot of the "talent" this team had because it didn't fit what they believe their team should field. We can judge them reasonably in the next year or two to see whether or not they made the right decisions with some of the people they traded away or decided not to pick up. But it's clear they wanted to instill their defense and search for a franchise QB in the first couple two years. From most accounts, the defense is on very solid footing and there is certainly a lot of hope with what we've seen from Josh Allen. They now have lots of money and draft capital to shore up the team. Rather than applaud the FO for kicking the tires on AB, you'd rather focus your ire on Beane and company and have them pay for the past sins of this organization and criticize a somewhat raw hopeful rookie for not tearing it up with passing stats is unreasonable. When you say "where WR"s go to die" and use that as a hammer to bludgeon this FO that is another unreasonable statement. Why? Because the QB they had in year one (Tyrod) was part of that problem and this FO acted quickly on it and made all sorts of trades to get the draft capital to get THEIR guy. So that "where WR's go to die" trope is not relevant to this FO. That's why you are getting the criticism and deservedly so. Great post.
CommonCents Posted March 8, 2019 Posted March 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, billspro said: I’m not saying he isn’t still good. He was probably the 4th best WR behind Thomas, Hopkins, and Hill. Prior to that he was the consensus best WR in the game. He still has a couple good years left too. When you get into year 4 and 5 of his next deal you will have some regrets if he didn’t get you a Super Bowl. Don’t sleep on Davante!
GunnerBill Posted March 8, 2019 Posted March 8, 2019 Just now, MAJBobby said: Again do you think AB cares about what may be on the future, with a Unknown at QB. I never ONCE has said this regime is the blame for the perception that Buffalo is the place where WR go to die. I said that is based on history and the current perception in the league. My question that everyone that wants to call me negative or incoherent or whatever other thing they can say to avoid answering the question. In two years has this regime done ANYTHING on offense that would inspire a WR to look at the new regime and say OK that is NOT a place that WR go to die Welcome back MAJ. Where I definitely agree with your previous post (couldn't find it to quote) is that they didn't have to commit to a tear down. I don't particularly disagree with their decision to tear it down but some around here act like they had no choice. And there was a choice. They inherited a .500 team over the previous 3 years and could have tried to re-load from there, but they didn't.
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