John from Riverside Posted March 8, 2019 Posted March 8, 2019 Just now, MAJBobby said: And yet to date he really hasn't proven anything right? So a WR on the back end of his career saying No to a regime that has historically been bad utilizing the WR and a QB that might or might not be good is not unfathomable Personally I am not heartbroken this didnt happen..... I dont really care about the name I want to accumulate talent this offseason......and Antonio Brown would have had the keys to the city here.....and a rookie QB that would have done pretty much whatever he wanted. Beane will find another
MrEpsYtown Posted March 8, 2019 Posted March 8, 2019 Alright we need to go back to talking about centers and right tackles! 2
Bangarang Posted March 8, 2019 Posted March 8, 2019 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Jasovon said: My concern is it could be a while before the media actually allows Allen to be seen as a good QB. Why do people think the media has it out for Buffalo or the Bills? If Allen is good then he will be acknowledged as such. I see the media talking highly of Baker Mayfield and the Browns have been just as much of a joke as we have.....and it’s still Cleveland. Edited March 8, 2019 by Bangarang
Logic Posted March 8, 2019 Posted March 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said: I live on the west coast and don’t go to bed at 8:30pm. Good for you, chief! I go to bed at 9 because I start work at 5am. I don't have a smart phone and, thus, don't receive notifications about football.
Happy Posted March 8, 2019 Posted March 8, 2019 8 minutes ago, CountDorkula said: the extra picks are what rounds 4-7? also, you just said they got rid of guys that were overpaid. They tried to bring in a guy and pay him, he said no thanks. What do you think is going to happen in UFA this year? The Bills are going to have to overpay to bring in the top talent that is needed. I'm glad the guy that just said no thanks will not sign here. If he doesn't want to be here, then go elsewhere. The Steelers have a real head case on their hands...talented, but a head case. You overpay every year in FA, that's that nature of FA. What is your point? 1
Magox Posted March 8, 2019 Posted March 8, 2019 (edited) Reading some of these over-the-top comments is ?. Before this rumor came about thinking with a clear mind without the emotion I didnt believe a trade for AB made sense on a number of levels: A) He is 31 years old B) He is a very selfish player that undoubtedly creates risk for the team if things dont start going HIS way. C) He would have cost this team a 1st round draft choice. D) This is a deep draft for WR's E) There are some good FA slot WRs available that wouldn't necessitate us trading away high draft capital and that would cost the team much less in salary cap room. F) AB reportedly wants to renegotiate his contract to the highest paid WR in the league. G) He allegedly doesnt want to be a Bill Sure, when I heard the news that he may be coming the emotion of an elite talent excites you and if the trade would have happened I would have gotten behind it. But when you strip out the emotion and look at this logically, this move wouldn't have made sense for this organization at this time. Edited March 8, 2019 by Magox 2 3
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted March 8, 2019 Posted March 8, 2019 11 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: And don't get me wrong...I love my boss and I love what I do, but personal stuff just is not taken into account where I am and I don't think it should really. That's fair, but this isn't "I don't get along with that guy." This is "that guy slept with my wife, please don't hire him." That's huge. I don't think personal stuff can be generalized into one large category. There are degrees of offenses. 1
WideNine Posted March 8, 2019 Posted March 8, 2019 20 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Edelman there that was easy Fair enough. ...and when Edelman was out all of 2017 NE did not win games?
Hedge Posted March 8, 2019 Posted March 8, 2019 38 minutes ago, One Buffalo said: I like what Sal says here- Quote A “hear we go again” mentality of fans who have constantly been told by outsiders that Buffalo is a place no one - especially big-time stars - want to play. "hear we go again" That sounds like a TBDism. 1
Dante Posted March 8, 2019 Posted March 8, 2019 10 minutes ago, CodeMonkey said: And this is exactly the problem when trying to sign top WR talent. If you are a WR looking to make a name for himself to get the big $$$ contract or someone looking for a ring, are you going to bet on Josh Allen learning to be an accurate passer, and the Buffalo Bills, toilet bowl dwellers for the past 2 decades, building an offensive line? Or more directly to your point, would you be willing to be one of the WRs the Bills put around Josh Allen to see *if* he is the guy? When I first heard of this last night my gut reaction was it's a little "cart before the horse" kinda thing. Maybe the Bills offense isn't quite up to speed for a temperamental WR albeit arguably the best WR in the league.
Andrew Son Posted March 8, 2019 Posted March 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, Magox said: Reading some of these over-the-top comments is ?. Before this rumor came about thinking with a clear mind without the emotion I didnt believe a trade for AB made sense on a number of levels: A) He is 31 years old B) He is a very selfish player that undoubtedly creates risk for the team if things dont start going HIS way. C) He would have cost this team a 1st round draft choice. D) This is a deep draft for WR's E) There are some good FA slot WRs available that wouldn't necessitate us trading away high draft capital and that would cost the team much less in salary cap room. F) AB reportedly wants to renegotiate his contract to the highest paid WR in the league. G) He allegedly doesnt want to be a Bill Sure, when I heard the news that he may be coming the emotion of an elite talent excites you and if the trade would have happened I would have gotten behind it. But when you strip out the emotion and look at this logically, this move wouldn't have made sense for this organization at this time. This all makes sense, yet our organization apparently thought otherwise.
Magox Posted March 8, 2019 Posted March 8, 2019 Just now, SWATeam said: This all makes sense, yet our organization apparently thought otherwise. From what I read when they realized AB didnt want to be a Bill they didnt go through with it.
ricko1112 Posted March 8, 2019 Posted March 8, 2019 41 minutes ago, BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P said: I'd think much less of Josh Allen if he let's a WR ruin his career tbh. That's on JA to navigate the NFL world full of egos and star power and leadership qualities. If your WR is b*****ing about you tell him to stfu haha. I hate the idea that JA needs to be in a fragile bubble. He's got to do what every other good quarterbacks have had to do to be successful and not fold for the flimsiest excuse that he has a cranky WR. That's asking a lot though from a young guy who hasn't done anything (yet) in the NFL. Thanks to AB, the Steelers have become a punchline. Big Boob has won 2 SBs, they're a veteran team, have a coach that is (unbelievably) in no danger of being fired, and stable ownership. Very few QBs have the cache to tell AB to pound sand. Brady, Brees, Rodgers, Wilson maybe.
MAJBobby Posted March 8, 2019 Posted March 8, 2019 8 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Personally I am not heartbroken this didnt happen..... I dont really care about the name I want to accumulate talent this offseason......and Antonio Brown would have had the keys to the city here.....and a rookie QB that would have done pretty much whatever he wanted. Beane will find another If you read everything I wrote on it I am not upset AB said Nope. I understand why he said Nope and refuse to flame him for that, it just seems that makes me the bad guy here again.
iinii Posted March 8, 2019 Posted March 8, 2019 Everyone that thinks AB was a process guy raise your hand.
Big Blitz Posted March 8, 2019 Posted March 8, 2019 I don't baby my kids like snowflakes or anything like that but I just think the way this unfolded matters and worth commenting on. So this past season my 9 year old became a huge AB/Steelers fan this year. For whatever reason. He loves football and that became his favorite player. He likes the Bills as much (obviously we're a Bills family) AB just became his favorite player. He wanted and got an AB Jersey for Christmas. The look on his face when he got it and how happy he was..... So 1 week later AB quits. Do you know how hard I tried to keep him from the real story? He would have been crushed and confused. Here he is just really getting into football and this happens. I told him he didn't play because he was hurt. And that's what he knew that is what the Steelers said at the time. And the only way he'd know if AB is getting traded is if friends are talking about it at school. This was largely why I was so excited late last night. I was picturing telling him the news this morning. Which I didnt and he was still asleep at 7am anyway when I left for work. So it got me thinking. If this news broke at 8pm last night while he was up and not 11:30 I almost certainly would have told him. He would have been thru the moon. Imagine having to explain today it didnt happen. How excited he would have been last night. Only to be crushed today. This is how gross and irresponsible all journalism has become. Rapaport jumped the gun. That was in poor taste imo. Same the entire NFL Nerwork. I'm just disappointed all around. I feel for the 8-9 year olds in Pittsburgh that are being introduced to the professional athletes they admire and cheer for in this way. I'm really disgusted. Thanks for reading....I just needed to vent.
billieve420 Posted March 8, 2019 Posted March 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, Hedge said: "hear we go again" That sounds like a TBDism. For the Bills to actually become relevant Josh has to prove he is a franchise QB and the team needs to start winning. Players will be more inclined to join the Bills once that is done and the money is there.
MAJBobby Posted March 8, 2019 Posted March 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, WideNine said: Fair enough. ...and when Edelman was out all of 2017 NE did not win games? another guy named Gronkowski
Alphadawg7 Posted March 8, 2019 Posted March 8, 2019 16 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: History does have relevancy with THIS regime. Players have the perception. That is based on History. And to date this regime has done NOTHING to change that in terms of the waste land that is WR usage in Buffalo. So when a WR says No. yes HISTORY has a play. It is on this regime to change that, and to date have they? NOPE Wrong. And you do NOT know in any way shape or form if this deal fell apart because AB didn’t want to come here. Just your negative assumption. So again, nothing you have said yet has any relevancy to this regime. 1 1
MAJBobby Posted March 8, 2019 Posted March 8, 2019 Just now, Alphadawg7 said: Wrong. And you do NOT know in any way shape or form if this deal fell apart because AB didn’t want to come here. Just your negative assumption. So again, nothing you have said yet has any relevancy to this regime. Ahhh another guy that just ignores everything out there as false and assumptions because it doesn't want to fit his rosey little outlook on the team
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