BillsSB2020 Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 I think he would be a tremendous addition. Yes, skepticism of NE offensive players is fair game, but past is not always prologue. He's a mauler in the run game and would open up a ton of options as he's probably a better guard than tackle, but is more than serviceable at that spot. FWIW, he graded out well by PFF who judges each player individually. We need to get bigger and stronger up front and this guy is exactly that. He's also 25 years old. I'm a big yes.
CaptnCoke11 Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 3 hours ago, Doc said: As the Giants how much they're liking Solder. What’s he have anything to do with Brown? I’d love to hear your expertise 1
Doc Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said: What’s he have anything to do with Brown? I’d love to hear your expertise It's not hard to figure out.
CaptnCoke11 Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 1 minute ago, Doc said: It's not hard to figure out. Solid answer. ??
Doc Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 1 minute ago, CaptnCoke11 said: Solid answer. ?? Have someone else explain it to you then.
Mr. WEO Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 4 hours ago, Doc said: As the Giants how much they're liking Solder. Or Manning...
Just Joshin' Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 18 minutes ago, BillsSB2020 said: I think he would be a tremendous addition. Yes, skepticism of NE offensive players is fair game, but past is not always prologue. He's a mauler in the run game and would open up a ton of options as he's probably a better guard than tackle, but is more than serviceable at that spot. FWIW, he graded out well by PFF who judges each player individually. We need to get bigger and stronger up front and this guy is exactly that. He's also 25 years old. I'm a big yes. It is not just the NE angle but he was injury prone and ineffective with SF. Why did SF dump him - he was not good. NE turned it into a very good year but the Bills would be foolish to comp him long term based on last year. He is more likely to return to mean than continue on his trajectory.
Doc Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Or Manning... They could have done something about him last year.
Mr. WEO Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 Just now, Doc said: They could have done something about him last year. They are regretting that bone headed decision too.
BillsSB2020 Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 Just now, Just Joshin' said: It is not just the NE angle but he was injury prone and ineffective with SF. Why did SF dump him - he was not good. NE turned it into a very good year but the Bills would be foolish to comp him long term based on last year. He is more likely to return to mean than continue on his trajectory. Still like Brown and SF has been a cluster**** for awhile now, but that's a much better argument against him than the overly simplistic "never take a Pats FA."
Mat68 Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 Any top player available on the o line is a win. Similar playbook makes sense too.
Doc Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 7 minutes ago, BillsSB2020 said: Still like Brown and SF has been a cluster**** for awhile now, but that's a much better argument against him than the overly simplistic "never take a Pats FA." You like Brown...after 1 good season on a team that make (some) OL look good but who go on to be JAGs elsewhere? For probably $10M+/year?
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 Pass. Get your OT in the draft. Get C and G in free agency. Honestly I would just sign Mills again. He is serviceable, will be affordable, and the rookie can learn. Also gives the team the option to move Dawkins inside if they land a great OT in draft.
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 5 hours ago, mjt328 said: I'm also very skeptical of anybody who comes from New England. Especially on offense. The league is FULL of players who left the Patriots machine, signed big deals elsewhere, and then never lived up to their contract. He's also pretty much the only Left Tackle with starting experience available in Free Agency, so his contract is going to be ridiculous. We definitely need a tackle, but I would rather spend money on JuWuan James or Darryl Williams on the right side. I'm more confident they will continue to play well in another environment. Of course (assuming we are not sold on Dion Dawkins at LT), that puts us into a really difficult position with the draft. We would really need to prioritize an OT like Jonah Williams or Jawaan Taylor at #9. And I'm not sure either will be available. This is how they keep getting 3rd rd compenitory picks. Trent Brown is a mauler in the running game and a solid pass protector, for the right price I would definitely want him here. Jonah Williams is the player I'm hoping that we draft, this guy is already fundamentally perfect and once he gets into a NFL training program he will be a pro bowl LT. He's only 21 and can play every position on the O-Line. Jonah Williams LT and Trent Brown RT would keep Allens jersey clean and keep him healthy in a critical year for him to develop. 1
947 Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 Brown had a solid year and is now set to get paid like a top-5 LT. He may not even be a LT in a non-Patriots offense, let alone a good one. He's a good player, but not a great one, this has classic overpay written all over it. The Derrick Dockery & Langston Walker signings are still too fresh in my mind... Build your O-line through the draft & by signing young "up & comers" fresh off their rookie deal.
Chandler#81 Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 14 hours ago, 947 said: NE's offense has the ability to mask subpar OT play, because the ball is literally out in 1.5 seconds on passing plays. Nate Solder was never a very good LT in NE, but he was highly rated because he did his job for those 1.5 seconds. He got paid by the Giants for that, and went on to suck for them, because they run a more traditional passing offense. Somebody will now overpay Trent Brown & the same thing will happen. I hope it's not Buffalo. This, plus we’d give NE* a Supplemental Pick. Just cuz it’s how they do bidniz, doesn’t mean we have to contribute.. [Edit] nevermind. Been shown the error of my way.
Gugny Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 14 hours ago, ******* said: What’s everyone think? Can plat LT/RT . Probably will get a boat load of money Every day. Multiple times/day. Why?
PetermansRedemption Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 Like others have said, I am extremely wary of OL from the Patriots. Tom Brady makes everyone look good, OL and WR. Rarely does a player leave New England and remain as productive as he was in New England. Nate Solder is the freshest example. For the money he will want, Brown is an easy pass IMO.
billsredneck1 Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 8 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: Pass. Get your OT in the draft. Get C and G in free agency. Honestly I would just sign Mills again. He is serviceable, will be affordable, and the rookie can learn. Also gives the team the option to move Dawkins inside if they land a great OT in draft. mills is/has been an absolute turnstile. a rookie would be an upgrade. the rt spot has been the weak link for the past 4 /5 yrs. it's gotta change.
HOUSE Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 I prefer the Patriots blow their wad on a left tackle
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