CSBill Posted March 4, 2019 Posted March 4, 2019 7 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: Omar might have just finished a doobie... Not sure what he said that is far off? He is not the only one saying these things. I think he just assembled them all into one thread. Anyhow, what I really like is the fact that the Buffalo Bills for the first time in many years are not part of these speculations. What a relief it is.
mannc Posted March 4, 2019 Posted March 4, 2019 3 hours ago, MJS said: Rosen didn't show that he is worth a 1st. Nor did he show that he’s not. And he’s 10 months removed from being no. 10 overall. 1 1
GunnerBill Posted March 4, 2019 Posted March 4, 2019 (edited) 30 minutes ago, mannc said: Nor did he show that he’s not. And he’s 10 months removed from being no. 10 overall. 100% correct. Denver does like Drew Lock the same way Pittsburgh really liked Mason Rudolph last year. They still waited until the 3rd to take him. I suspect Denver will take Drew Lock in the 2nd round (and I think he will still be there). Rosen does make sense in Washington. The Grudens want pocket QBs, not guys who make hay on broken plays. Also Washington is tight against the cap and cannot get out of that Smith contract. Rosen is cheap and is cheap for a number of years if it works out for them. They also have a really underrated offensive line - which even before the draft I always said was critical for a team taking Rosen - Washington's is one of the best in the league when they are all healthy..... the issue for them has been that a couple of those guys are quite injury prone. Edited March 4, 2019 by GunnerBill 3
eball Posted March 4, 2019 Posted March 4, 2019 8 hours ago, Jay_Fixit said: Omar Kelly is an idiot. Yes, yes he is. He just took every rumor and threw it into a tweet because he's annoyed with the Fish tanking this season and not getting involved in the QB race.
gjv001 Posted March 4, 2019 Posted March 4, 2019 Rosen to Miami. That would create a nice 2018 QB draft rivalry in the AFC East.
CommonCents Posted March 4, 2019 Posted March 4, 2019 Omar reminds me of a drunk message board poster. Seems like he is just bashing the fins.
stuvian Posted March 4, 2019 Posted March 4, 2019 Good Luck to the Broncos unloading Keenum's contract 1
BillyWhiteShows Posted March 4, 2019 Posted March 4, 2019 Wow, so according to this scenario there’s at least 2 QB’s taken in the top 10 picks. If Denver is “locked in” on Lock it probably means they aren’t the only team interested in drafting him. That could make the #10 spot a very interesting spot for a trade
bigK14094 Posted March 4, 2019 Posted March 4, 2019 10 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said: My best guess is a third and a fifth. The Redskins have two thirds and two fifths thanks to gaining 4 comp picks. The trade would leave them with 7 picks. There won't be a Rosen trade without a #1 involved. 1
BuffAlone Posted March 4, 2019 Posted March 4, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, BillyWhiteShows said: Wow, so according to this scenario there’s at least 2 QB’s taken in the top 10 picks. If Denver is “locked in” on Lock it probably means they aren’t the only team interested in drafting him. That could make the #10 spot a very interesting spot for a trade Why would the ten spot be interesting for a trade? If Denver covets Lock and he's there at 10, they won't be trading that pick. If they move up, it will be for a QB so not much left at 10... Edited March 4, 2019 by BuffAlone
Teddy KGB Posted March 4, 2019 Posted March 4, 2019 12 minutes ago, bigK14094 said: There won't be a Rosen trade without a #1 involved. Why would a team overpay ? Dudes an interception machine. 2nd is plenty
GunnerBill Posted March 4, 2019 Posted March 4, 2019 28 minutes ago, bigK14094 said: There won't be a Rosen trade without a #1 involved. The only way I can see a 1 involved is if the deal is Washington swapping its #1 for the Cardinals #2. The trade value there is about 420 points by the traditional chart which is equivalent to a mid 2nd rounder. It would give the Cards 2 picks in the first 15 but the Redskins would still have two #2s and two #3s..... plenty of ammunition to jump back up into the last 10 picks of round 1 for a non-QB position player they really like if needs be.
GunnerBill Posted March 4, 2019 Posted March 4, 2019 20 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: Why would a team overpay ? Dudes an interception machine. Actually his INT percentage per attempt was just a smidgen better than Josh Allen's. He did in addition, however, lose 5 fumbles to Allen's 2. 2
PromoTheRobot Posted March 4, 2019 Posted March 4, 2019 So how does all this affect the Bills chances of getting a trade down partner?
blacklabel Posted March 4, 2019 Posted March 4, 2019 Sounds like an interesting premise but this Kelly dude has unloaded some whoppers before so we'll see what happens. Speaking of whoppers, did anyone catch that speculated trade scenario involving Buffalo, Jacksonville and Philly? I'm pretty sure it was just conjecture but it proposed a three-way trade which would involve Shady, Foles and Leonard Fournette. I'm not sure which way they had the trades lined up but it would be something like Shady to Philly for Foles and then Foles to Jacksonville for Fournette.
eball Posted March 4, 2019 Posted March 4, 2019 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: Actually his INT percentage per attempt was just a smidgen better than Josh Allen's. He did in addition, however, lose 5 fumbles to Allen's 2. Given how large a perceived gap there was between Rosen's and Allen's "readiness" to lead an NFL offense, those statistics are pretty damning (for Rosen).
GunnerBill Posted March 4, 2019 Posted March 4, 2019 1 minute ago, eball said: Given how large a perceived gap there was between Rosen's and Allen's "readiness" to lead an NFL offense, those statistics are pretty damning (for Rosen). I certainly think that they are a negative for Rosen. I wouldn't quite go as far as pretty damning. I think people are very fast to write him off... those people may include the Cardinals front office. But I still suspect in the long run he will show he can play. 1
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 4, 2019 Posted March 4, 2019 was Rosen THAT bad in Arizona? having the team abandoning a guy considered a Top Pick after a partial season??
YoloinOhio Posted March 4, 2019 Posted March 4, 2019 9 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: was Rosen THAT bad in Arizona? having the team abandoning a guy considered a Top Pick after a partial season?? No, I think it’s more about the coaching/scheme. Kliff wanting his guy. If it happens. 1 1
MrEpsYtown Posted March 4, 2019 Posted March 4, 2019 8 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: was Rosen THAT bad in Arizona? having the team abandoning a guy considered a Top Pick after a partial season?? If all this Murray stuff is true, it's just coaching change stuff. Kingsbury knows what type of quarterback he wanst for his system, and apparently Rosen is not it. It's just simply the effect of a regime change. 2 hours ago, bigK14094 said: There won't be a Rosen trade without a #1 involved. The Cardinals would have zero leverage. And honestly, most teams can just decide turn around and draft a guy instead. It's terrible timing for a trade imo. 1
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