eball Posted March 7, 2019 Posted March 7, 2019 Now that Todd McShay has officially "mocked" Metcalf to the Bills I can breathe a sigh of relief.
Hebert19 Posted March 7, 2019 Author Posted March 7, 2019 I get the fear of his overall stiffness when it comes to cuts and coming out of breaks but I'm watching him that's technique more than a flaw. He is too upright even when running the shuttle. He needs to bend the knees more and he could improve this aspect.
billsfan89 Posted March 7, 2019 Posted March 7, 2019 DK Metcalf seems like a workout warrior. I wouldn’t mind taking him in the mid to late teens after a trade down. Straight up at 9 I would rather take a pass rusher where at that point in the draft there will be a top tier pass rusher there. I think at around pick 15-20 Metcalf is a risk worth taking. He has a dominant physical profile, the family acumen (His father, uncle, and grandfather were all in the NFL), along with being a good kid in general. But as good a physical freak as he is, Metcalf does have concerns about his lateral ability (His cone drills were awful), his route running, and his hands leave a lot to be desired on tape. He also has an injury history that isn’t insignificant. You need to be able use more than straight line speed and a freak physical profile to be a good WR in the NFL. But if Metcalf can polish his game more he has All-Pro potential. So my appetite for risk on Metcalf at pick 9 is not there. I think if somehow if the Bills can trade down between 15-20 and Metcalf is there at that range (Which now is unlikely but who knows if the hype calms down in the later draft process) then having extra picks and picking lower makes Metcalf a risk worth taking as you likely have an extra 2ndround pick to fill other needs.
Big Turk Posted March 7, 2019 Posted March 7, 2019 (edited) On 3/5/2019 at 1:12 PM, papazoid said: D.K. Metcalf had a great combine ... but was slower than Tom Brady in some drills Metcalf had a 3-cone drill of 7.38 seconds and a shuttle time of 4.5 seconds. Brady ran the 3-cone drill in 7.2 seconds and the shuttle in 4.38 seconds at the 2000 combine. Was it just technique or is there something concerning about Metcalf’s short-area athleticism? https://sports.yahoo.com/dk-metcalf-had-a-great-combine-but-was-slower-than-tom-brady-in-some-drills-160122585.html Being built like a tank and running the 40 very fast is great, but neither matters if a receiver doesn’t have the quickness to get open in the NFL. This points to exactly why I think he is a David Boston clone....dude is in love with weightlifting and not football...he has gotten too big and bulky and when that happens, you lose flexibility over time...this is why he is all-world in many of the drills but when it comes to flexibility/change of direction drills he is terrible...he is a constant injury waiting to happen...dude will likely have a career shortened by injury/ 24 minutes ago, Hebert19 said: I get the fear of his overall stiffness when it comes to cuts and coming out of breaks but I'm watching him that's technique more than a flaw. He is too upright even when running the shuttle. He needs to bend the knees more and he could improve this aspect. Maybe its his technique because he has gotten too muscular and he simply CANNOT bend more because now he lacks flexibility to do it... Edited March 7, 2019 by matter2003
SACTOBILLSFAN Posted March 8, 2019 Posted March 8, 2019 I've got real questions about Metcalf's actual ability to produce in the NFL. Nobody with his pedestrian college stats (regardless of surrounding cast) has really done much in the NFL. I don't like any of the WRs in the first round except maybe Marquise Brown towards the backend.
Ol Dirty B Posted March 8, 2019 Posted March 8, 2019 10 hours ago, billsfan89 said: DK Metcalf seems like a workout warrior. I wouldn’t mind taking him in the mid to late teens after a trade down. Straight up at 9 I would rather take a pass rusher where at that point in the draft there will be a top tier pass rusher there. I think at around pick 15-20 Metcalf is a risk worth taking. He has a dominant physical profile, the family acumen (His father, uncle, and grandfather were all in the NFL), along with being a good kid in general. But as good a physical freak as he is, Metcalf does have concerns about his lateral ability (His cone drills were awful), his route running, and his hands leave a lot to be desired on tape. He also has an injury history that isn’t insignificant. You need to be able use more than straight line speed and a freak physical profile to be a good WR in the NFL. But if Metcalf can polish his game more he has All-Pro potential. So my appetite for risk on Metcalf at pick 9 is not there. I think if somehow if the Bills can trade down between 15-20 and Metcalf is there at that range (Which now is unlikely but who knows if the hype calms down in the later draft process) then having extra picks and picking lower makes Metcalf a risk worth taking as you likely have an extra 2ndround pick to fill other needs. Why is your post font like that? It's obnoxious, he also won't be there in a trade down. 1
DCOrange Posted March 8, 2019 Posted March 8, 2019 5 hours ago, SACTOBILLSFAN said: I've got real questions about Metcalf's actual ability to produce in the NFL. Nobody with his pedestrian college stats (regardless of surrounding cast) has really done much in the NFL. I don't like any of the WRs in the first round except maybe Marquise Brown towards the backend. That's not really true; his stats are actually pretty much in line with all of the good prospects that he's been compared to; it's just clouded a bit because he got hurt (which is a legitimate concern, but you and I simply won't have access to the medical reports that Buffalo will have). Probably doesn't matter ultimately though; I don't think Metcalf will be available at #9 after the AB trade fell through. Teams will know that Buffalo wants a WR so if anyone is interested, they'll know to jump in front of Buffalo. 1
The_Dude Posted March 8, 2019 Posted March 8, 2019 Metcalf wasn't even the #1 option on his team which is concerning. There are 'issues' with DK that need to reconciled before that pick is made.
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted March 8, 2019 Posted March 8, 2019 needs to be the pick. Don' t tell me "a lineman" is a bigger need. There are plenty of OT and G available in free agency and while DT MIGHT be a safer choice depending on who is available at 9, taking one would in my eyes be an admission that either the Star signing and/or Phillips pick were mistakes.
BillsfanAZ Posted March 8, 2019 Posted March 8, 2019 So how does a guy that has only had 1200 yards and about 15 TDs his whole college career rate higher than other WR's that were WAY more productive? DK wasnt even the best WR on his own team. Will Fuller was just as fast as DK and just as injury prone. He hasnt done much of anything in the NFL.
KD in CA Posted March 8, 2019 Posted March 8, 2019 43 minutes ago, BillsfanAZ said: So how does a guy that has only had 1200 yards and about 15 TDs his whole college career rate higher than other WR's that were WAY more productive? DK wasnt even the best WR on his own team. Will Fuller was just as fast as DK and just as injury prone. He hasnt done much of anything in the NFL. I dunno, but it scares the crap out of me. I want to believe so much that Buffalo finally has a FO smart enough to see through guys like this.
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted March 8, 2019 Posted March 8, 2019 8 hours ago, DCOrange said: That's not really true; his stats are actually pretty much in line with all of the good prospects that he's been compared to; it's just clouded a bit because he got hurt (which is a legitimate concern, but you and I simply won't have access to the medical reports that Buffalo will have). Probably doesn't matter ultimately though; I don't think Metcalf will be available at #9 after the AB trade fell through. Teams will know that Buffalo wants a WR so if anyone is interested, they'll know to jump in front of Buffalo. If another teams GM didn’t know the Bills would be looking for a WR and needed the AB mess for confirmation then they should be fired. Every GM and their mother knows we need a WR from 2018 WR stats alone.
FeelingOnYouboty Posted March 8, 2019 Posted March 8, 2019 Awww man it's official. DK Metcalf is this year's Josh Allen. 1
Teddy KGB Posted March 9, 2019 Posted March 9, 2019 Metcalf Schmetcalf. Gimme David Sills V or N’ Keal Harry
without a drought Posted March 9, 2019 Posted March 9, 2019 15 hours ago, Ol Dirty B said: Why is your post font like that? It's obnoxious, he also won't be there in a trade down. I agree 1
zevo Posted March 9, 2019 Posted March 9, 2019 17 hours ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: Awww man it's official. DK Metcalf is this year's Josh Allen. Even more reason to draft him
BarleyNY Posted March 9, 2019 Posted March 9, 2019 Just wanted to chime in and say that somehow, someway I’m not at all in on Metcalf.
/dev/null Posted March 9, 2019 Posted March 9, 2019 17 hours ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: Awww man it's official. DK Metcalf is this year's Josh Allen. I'm pretty sure Kentucky DL/LB Josh Allen is this year's Josh Allen 2
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