The Frankish Reich Posted March 2, 2019 Posted March 2, 2019 15 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said: I think Rosen would be lucky to fetch a 3rd. Let's say you're John Elway. You have Joe Flacco and Case Keenum. You have the 10th overall pick. Are you better off with Rosen as your QB of the future, or with ... Dwayne Haskins? Drew Lock?
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted March 2, 2019 Posted March 2, 2019 15 minutes ago, Tsaikotic said: I like Eisens comment about how if Rosen thought 9 teams made a mistake last draft...whats this gonna do to him.lol open mouth, insert foot. I'm loving this. especially after some here last draft were all in on this scrub. one twitter bot in particular was all over his jock and he's gone and it looks like the scrub will be traded off to become another teams scrub back up or maybe he's done for good? karma is a B word josh boy, a real B word. 3 1 2 1
Cripple Creek Posted March 2, 2019 Posted March 2, 2019 15 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: She meant by NFL executives at the combine Watch out, you might get one of those misleading thread title thingys from a mod.
YoloinOhio Posted March 2, 2019 Author Posted March 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Cripple Creek said: Watch out, you might get one of those misleading thread title thingys from a mod. I thought it was obvious but changed it
K-9 Posted March 2, 2019 Posted March 2, 2019 I think we need to trade for Rosen, thus GUARANTEEING we have the right Josh. 1 10
sven233 Posted March 2, 2019 Posted March 2, 2019 31 minutes ago, nickrage said: So then what happens to Rosen? Enter Dave Gettleman. Could the cards take Murray at one then trade Rosen to the giants for the sixth overall pick? Oh....everyone knows what is going to happen to Rosen. The Pats* are going to get him for a 8th Round pick, he is going to sit behind Brady for a year or 2, and then dominate the AFC East for the next 17 years. 1
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted March 2, 2019 Posted March 2, 2019 (edited) I look at it as an opportunity for some team to grab an asset in Rosen for less than he cost last year. That would be smart, not kicking him to the curb yet, because he obviously had a crummy situation to play last year. Edited March 2, 2019 by Josh "Real Deal" Allen 2
ALF Posted March 2, 2019 Posted March 2, 2019 The Cardinals’ offensive line was in shambles when fully healthy, Quarterback Josh Rosen didn’t have a chance. https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-2018-nfl-offensive-line-rankings-all-32-teams-units-after-week-17 Might take too long to build a OL but getting extra picks plus a vet OL man for the #1 might speed the process up. 1
YoloinOhio Posted March 2, 2019 Author Posted March 2, 2019 7 minutes ago, K-9 said: I think we need to trade for Rosen, thus GUARANTEEING we have the right Josh. Doubling down on Joshes is a great strategy. Would Kdiggz return to the board? Would Ryan Gates return to WGR? So juicy 2
Chuck Wagon Posted March 2, 2019 Posted March 2, 2019 1 ) Murray 2 ) Bosa 3 ) trade up for Haskins 4) ???? 5) ???? 6) Daniel Jones 6th best position player available at #9 2
Alphadawg7 Posted March 2, 2019 Posted March 2, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, nickrage said: So then what happens to Rosen? Enter Dave Gettleman. Could the cards take Murray at one then trade Rosen to the giants for the sixth overall pick? No way he gets that much in a trade IMO. I bet it’s a 2nd rounder at best. I mean he spent a season sucking, so he won’t get a trade value return near what they invested IMO Edited March 2, 2019 by Alphadawg7 3
The Frankish Reich Posted March 2, 2019 Posted March 2, 2019 18 minutes ago, sven233 said: Oh....everyone knows what is going to happen to Rosen. The Pats* are going to get him for a 8th Round pick, he is going to sit behind Brady for a year or 2, and then dominate the AFC East for the next 17 years. This is weirdly not insane. And thank you for ruining my weekend with this scenario. 1
aristocrat Posted March 2, 2019 Posted March 2, 2019 Giant should be all over this. Rosen sits behind Eli for some or all of year. And going forward they could have a nice trio. Draft a tackle at six. Give cards the second rounder for Rosen. 4 1
PetermansRedemption Posted March 2, 2019 Posted March 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: No way he gets that much in a trade IMO. I bet it’s a 3nd rounder at beat. I mean he spent a season sucking, so he won’t get a trade value return near what they invested IMO I am thinking his absolute top ceiling in trade value would be Miami at 13 or Washington at 15. Either one desperately need a young QB. 1
Augie Posted March 2, 2019 Posted March 2, 2019 45 minutes ago, Doc said: True but I guess their thinking is that it would be easier to get a guy who can scramble in the pocket than try and fix the OL. I agree that the coach/team/QB fit might be better.
Alphadawg7 Posted March 2, 2019 Posted March 2, 2019 Just now, Bills2ref said: I am thinking his absolute top ceiling in trade value would be Miami at 13 or Washington at 15. Either one desperately need a young QB. I agree, and will come down to a combo of how highly they regarded him (if at all) last year, how they view the current class that will be available, and how desperate they are to make a move. Not all teams liked Rosen last year, Bills didn’t even have him on their board reportedly. So will be interesting to watch this unfold and see what interest there is. Also, they could keep both for 2020 and let them battle it out like Brees/Rivers, Aikman/Walsh, etc and then move the guy who doesn’t ultimately win the long term job. 9 minutes ago, Bills2ref said: I am thinking his absolute top ceiling in trade value would be Miami at 13 or Washington at 15. Either one desperately need a young QB. Oops, I wrote “3nd” rounder in the post you replied to ha. Obviously meant 2nd rounder. Typo ha 1
mjt328 Posted March 2, 2019 Posted March 2, 2019 Josh Rosen still has a chance to be a very good QB in this league. You cannot judge a guy on his rookie season alone, especially with a team as awful as Arizona. With that said, you have to wonder what the heck is going on in Arizona's front office (assuming this report is true). They fired the head coach Steve Wilks after one season. They drafted a QB in the Top 10 and are now ready to move-on after one season. I can't blame Kliff Kingsbury however. Rosen is a very polarizing guy and his personality really rubbed some people the wrong way. His skills are also limited to being a traditional pocket passer. If Kingsbury doesn't believe he's a good fit for what he's trying to build, I give him credit for recognizing that immediately and being willing to make a bold move. 5
BillsBlue Posted March 2, 2019 Posted March 2, 2019 I feel bad for Rosen but hey he'll start wherever he goes so he has his chance to succeed regardless
PetermansRedemption Posted March 2, 2019 Posted March 2, 2019 1 minute ago, mjt328 said: Josh Rosen still has a chance to be a very good QB in this league. You cannot judge a guy on his rookie season alone, especially with a team as awful as Arizona. With that said, you have to wonder what the heck is going on in Arizona's front office (assuming this report is true). They fired the head coach Steve Wilks after one season. They drafted a QB in the Top 10 and are now ready to move-on after one season. I can't blame Kliff Kingsbury however. Rosen is a very polarizing guy and his personality really rubbed some people the wrong way. His skills are also limited to being a traditional pocket passer. If Kingsbury doesn't believe he's a good fit for what he's trying to build, I give him credit for recognizing that immediately and being willing to make a bold move. Great analysis. Kind of where I am as well. Is it extremely uncommon to move on after one year? Sure. But Kingsbury and Heim could have (probably have) had a lot of conversation on this topic. Kingsbury could have an Air raid system he wants to incorporate and views Murray as the best chance to success given the status of the O-line in Arizona. It could all be an elaborate ruse to get someone (Giants, Jags, Raiders) to overpay for first overall. At this point I would say it’s 50/50. Easy to fall in love with Murray as a prospect, especially if he runs in the 4.3’s during his pro-day. Also easy to hate Murray as a prospect. Truly polarizing player.
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