BringBackOrton Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 12 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said: I mean the name, the post. It all goes together perfectly. 304-227. Dread it. Run from it. Destiny still arrives. 1 1
Lurker Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Troll Toll said: It is called the economy, it’s why he’ll be re-elected in 2020. You realize the economy is growing at roughly the same rate as before he was elected, don't you. Right now, the consensus estimate for GDP growth in Q4 is around 2%--slightly less than the average since 2010... Table 1.1.1. Percent Change From Preceding Period in Real Gross Domestic Product [Percent] Last Revised on: December 21, 2018 - Next Release Date January 30, 2019 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 Line 1 Gross domestic product 2.6 1.6 2.2 1.8 2.5 2.9 1.6 2.2 2018 Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4est 1 Gross domestic product 2.2 4.2 3.4 2.1 Edited February 28, 2019 by Lurker 2
Murdox Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 (edited) I have lived in NYC for most of my life, for better or worse. People in NYC, whether republican or democrat, have known about Trump's business practices for years. It was regularly in the news, and most of us at some point had interacted with someone who had been - shall we say - dealt a bad hand due to Trump. There is a reason why Kasich won the primary in New York County. Whether that should affect your feelings about him as President is up to you. Anyway, that's enough said on the subject for a football board! Edited February 28, 2019 by Murdox 3
Ol Dirty B Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Troll Toll said: It is called the economy, it’s why he’ll be re-elected in 2020. He won't be. The growth is suspect, it's no better than it was under Obama. The only way he gets re-elected is through the election turning out the exact same way it did in 2016. I find it hard to believe that he has won anyone over, and believe it more likely he has lost voters. I was a border line trump supporter for the entertainment value and I'm not a big Hillary fan. I know almost all of my family voted for Trump, none will next year, but we're all New Yorkers, so it doesn't matter. However, I will say despite my day to day interactions, Trump has a few historical precedents working for him. Incumbency, Republicans have a more reliable turn out rate, old people and white people have a higher turn out rate, and he has a base that is to the point of frightening that stands besides him no matter what. If he is reelected, it isn't because of the economy. His lower middle class to lower class white base knows nothing of that. Also, his tax plan effin blows. But again, that really only impacted blue states. 5 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: 304-227. Dread it. Run from it. Destiny still arrives. Well I mean I live fairly well either way. I do think it's annoying though when things could be better. And this declaring a state of emergency to get a wall built is possibly the most damaging thing ever to the Constitution if it gets done. What is your opinion on that? Edited February 28, 2019 by Ol Dirty B 1
BringBackOrton Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said: He won't be. The growth is suspect, it's no better than it was under Obama. The only way he gets re-elected is through the election turning out the exact same way it did in 2016. I find it hard to believe that he has won anyone over, and believe it more likely he has lost voters. I was a border line trump supporter for the entertainment value and I'm not a big Hillary fan. I know almost all of my family voted for Trump, none will this year, but we're all New Yorkers, so it doesn't matter. However, I will say despite my day to day interactions, Trump has a few historical precedents working for him. Incumbency, Republicans have a more reliable turn out rate, old people and white people have a higher turn out rate, and he has a base that is to the point of frightening that stands besides him no matter what. If he is reelected, it isn't because of the economy. His lower middle class to lower class white base knows nothing of that. Also, his tax plan effin blows. But again, that really only impacted blue states. Well I mean I live fairly well either way. I do think it's annoying though when things could be better. And this declaring a state of emergency to get a wall built is possibly the most damaging thing ever to the Constitution if it gets done. What is your opinion on that? Come to PPP friendo. 1
Ol Dirty B Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 (edited) Just now, BringBackOrton said: Come to PPP friendo. Nope you can respond here if you care, if not it's cool. Just a difference of opinion... I've been there I just get attacked. I think most people who aren't big fans of Trump have learned it's futile to venture there. Edited February 28, 2019 by Ol Dirty B 1
BringBackOrton Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, Ol Dirty B said: Nope you can respond here if you care, if not it's cool. Just a difference of opinion... I've been there I just get attacked. I think most people who aren't big fans of Trump have learned it's futile to venture there. I think the southern border is absolutely a national emergency. Most people get along just fine in PPP. You just have to actually defend your preaching, which most people can't do. Edited February 28, 2019 by BringBackOrton 1
MattM Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 22 minutes ago, Troll Toll said: The democrat fact checkers thoroughly debunked Peter Schweizer’s entire book that had 70 pages of factual references in a half page article... impressive ? By the way, unlike Snopes, which “fact checks” in a uniformly partisan direction, Schweizer exposes the rats on both sides of the aisle like McConnell and Paul Ryan. FYI, I have knowledge of the CFIUS process (including the role of State vs the other agencies), so know Schweizer’s full of ***** on this. And yeah, Snopes (and many others) have pretty much fully debunked this one.
Alphadawg7 Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Troll Toll said: Guess by that logic anything Trump supposedly did with Russia was 3 years ago, so let it go. The only difference is that there is no denying Clinton selling uranium to Russia to the tune of $145 million to finance her campaign. Trump on the other hand has had the top investigation unit in the world spying on him for 2 years and they still got diddly squat. Diddly squat? Guess you missed all the indictments of the people who worked for Trump, his campaign, and administration. My favorite part of this whole ordeal is most of his "base" hated him when he was a reality TV deuche. Now that this deuche is the political head of their political party, people want to pretend his life time of being a scum bag didn't really happen and he is some saint. He was a monster and a fraud before politics, he's been worse sense being in politics. Most of the "supporters" knew what a POS he was before he became a political figure, but defend him now as if he is not just because he is now hoaxing being a Republican. Edited February 28, 2019 by Alphadawg7
ALLEN1QB Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 Cohen is going to prison for lying to Congress and you're going to believe anything this guy says? Fake news MAGA!!! 1
Ol Dirty B Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 Just now, BringBackOrton said: I think the southern border is absolutely a national emergency. Most people get along just fine in PPP. You just have to actually defend your preaching, which most people can't do. And if you dont mind me asking, why do you think the southern border is a national emergency? Again, I know you said go to PPP, just not a fan of it.
Comebackkid Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 4 hours ago, nedboy7 said: Isnt it funny they still haven’t locked her up? Not as funny as if they did lock her up
Bad Things Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Troll Toll said: Trump on the other hand has had the top investigation unit in the world spying on him for 2 years and they still got diddly squat. How do you know they haven't found diddly squat?
Alphadawg7 Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said: And if you dont mind me asking, why do you think the southern border is a national emergency? Again, I know you said go to PPP, just not a fan of it. Dont blame you...PPP is a dark place ha
Troll Toll Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 Just now, Ol Dirty B said: And if you dont mind me asking, why do you think the southern border is a national emergency? Again, I know you said go to PPP, just not a fan of it. Considering roughly the same number of Americans are killed in a year by illegal immigrants than in the Iraq war (2003-2012) I’d say it qualifies. Not to mention the drug, arms and human trafficking. That said, I don’t think a “see through” fence will do much to stop those issues. Needs to be a solid wall, not one you can just hand off drugs through.
Ol Dirty B Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Troll Toll said: Guess by that logic anything Trump supposedly did with Russia was 3 years ago, so let it go. The only difference is that there is no denying Clinton selling uranium to Russia to the tune of $145 million to finance her campaign. Trump on the other hand has had the top investigation unit in the world spying on him for 2 years and they still got diddly squat Lol you're referring to this? https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesconca/2018/12/13/russian-uranium-one-deal-and-hillary-clinton-in-the-news-again/ You gotta take it easy. You sound like my crazy uncle who said to me once "I don't understand everything he says, but I know he says if for a reason, Trump's a genius" Lol.
Troll Toll Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, Bad Things said: How do you know they haven't found diddly squat? It’s been two years and the FBI and DOJ have been leaking anything and everything they can.
BringBackOrton Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 8 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said: And if you dont mind me asking, why do you think the southern border is a national emergency? Again, I know you said go to PPP, just not a fan of it. Human trafficking, drug trafficking, etc. Lots of compelling reasons.
Lurker Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, Troll Toll said: Considering roughly the same number of Americans are killed in a year by illegal immigrants than in the Iraq war (2003-2012) I’d say it qualifies. What about the lettuce then? https://www.politifact.com/facebook-fact-checks/statements/2019/jan/15/viral-image/did-lettuce-kill-more-americans-undocumented-immig/ 1
BringBackOrton Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 (edited) Just now, Lurker said: What about the lettuce then? https://www.politifact.com/facebook-fact-checks/statements/2019/jan/15/viral-image/did-lettuce-kill-more-americans-undocumented-immig/ What crime did lettuce commit to get into this country? Edited February 28, 2019 by BringBackOrton 1
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