Aussie Joe Posted April 27, 2019 Posted April 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Or they are much higher on Duke than people believe. REMEMBER: I said I thought Zay would be traded in preseason, not the draft. Brown, Foster, and Cole are likely to be ahead of Zay on depth chart come week 1. If Duke passes him too, he’s gonna be 5th WR which again is why I think Zay gets traded in that scenario. I’m fine being wrong in the end, all I want is good WRs and if he proves his worth that’s great! But I said from the get go it was my feeling his job isn’t safe. I still feel his job isn’t safe. Camp and Preseason will determine his fate IMO. I’m glad you are keeping this going.. Im hoping this thread is the 2019 version of last years “Luck is past it” .. 1
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 27, 2019 Posted April 27, 2019 On 4/2/2019 at 1:18 PM, Call_Of_Ktulu said: When I think of drops, throwaways, poor routes,poor ball security and horrid blocking I think of Zay Jones and Croom. Huh. And I thought Zay ran rather nice routes and even made some good adjustments to help Allen out. Shows how a fan may be mistaken. He did show stone hands Year 1 but improved this past season. Croom has me SMH. "Nepotism lives" is all I got. 12 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Or they are much higher on Duke than people believe. REMEMBER: I said I thought Zay would be traded in preseason, not the draft. Brown, Foster, and Cole are likely to be ahead of Zay on depth chart come week 1. If Duke passes him too, he’s gonna be 5th WR which again is why I think Zay gets traded in that scenario. I’m fine being wrong in the end, all I want is good WRs and if he proves his worth that’s great! But I said from the get go it was my feeling his job isn’t safe. I still feel his job isn’t safe. Camp and Preseason will determine his fate IMO. I would like to think that perhaps our coaches have learnt a valuable lesson that what a guy does in preseason and what a guy can achieve during the regular season are not necessarily the same thing. It would be a mistake IMO to trade off a guy who has shown he can play in the NFL in favor of a CFL "dark horse"
Alphadawg7 Posted April 27, 2019 Author Posted April 27, 2019 5 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: I’m glad you are keeping this going.. Im hoping this thread is the 2019 version of last years “Luck is past it” .. Im not keeping anything going. I responded to someone’s comment. And I never guaranteed anything, all I did was share my feeling his job isn’t safe and why. And with him looking up at Brown, Foster, and Cole I still think his job isn’t safe. Duke is still a wild card too. Plus McKenzie and Roberts still vying for a roster spot too. As I said before, I don’t care if I’m right or wrong come week 1. This was never about that, it was about discussing our WR room, anticipated changes, and where they all fit. And my feeling was with stiffer competition, Zay will fall down the depth chart. But now some of you are taking a “victory lap” before the competition has even begun. All good either way, been a great thread of mostly great discussion and there is still a lot left in this story before we know how it ends. Cheers to all, Go Bills 1
Aussie Joe Posted April 27, 2019 Posted April 27, 2019 6 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Im not keeping anything going. I responded to someone’s comment. And I never guaranteed anything, all I did was share my feeling his job isn’t safe and why. And with him looking up at Brown, Foster, and Cole I still think his job isn’t safe. Duke is still a wild card too. Plus McKenzie and Roberts still vying for a roster spot too. As I said before, I don’t care if I’m right or wrong come week 1. This was never about that, it was about discussing our WR room, anticipated changes, and where they all fit. And my feeling was with stiffer competition, Zay will fall down the depth chart. But now some of you are taking a “victory lap” before the competition has even begun. All good either way, been a great thread of mostly great discussion and there is still a lot left in this story before we know how it ends. Cheers to all, Go Bills I meant keeping your argument going in terms of continuing this after the draft.. No “victory lap” from me...yet.. I really want this to turn into an epic thread for 2019 where Zay kills it... The reality will probably be somewhere in between.. he will remain on the team in 2019 but put up modest numbers.. 1 1
Alphadawg7 Posted April 27, 2019 Author Posted April 27, 2019 8 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: I meant keeping your argument going in terms of continuing this after the draft.. No “victory lap” from me...yet.. I really want this to turn into an epic thread for 2019 where Zay kills it... The reality will probably be somewhere in between.. he will remain on the team in 2019 but put up modest numbers.. I would love nothing more than Zay to put up an epic season. I’m not a poster who cares about being right about a feeling over Bills and our players succeeding. Again, this was just a feeling and I said they would add 2 to 3 WRs in free agency and draft in some way. They did exactly that, just was all in free agency. So now Zay has to prove he’s better than one of Brown or Foster or he will be a backup. And Duke will have his own shot to prove he belongs too. Cole is 100% the unquestioned slot WR, so he’s lost that battle already. Now it’s down to can be beat out Brown or Foster while also holding off Duke. So I still remain skeptical. 1
BullBuchanan Posted April 28, 2019 Posted April 28, 2019 I also think there's a high chance he's a surprise cut this season.
NoSaint Posted April 28, 2019 Posted April 28, 2019 2 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: Or they are much higher on Duke than people believe. REMEMBER: I said I thought Zay would be traded in preseason, not the draft. Brown, Foster, and Cole are likely to be ahead of Zay on depth chart come week 1. If Duke passes him too, he’s gonna be 5th WR which again is why I think Zay gets traded in that scenario. I’m fine being wrong in the end, all I want is good WRs and if he proves his worth that’s great! But I said from the get go it was my feeling his job isn’t safe. I still feel his job isn’t safe. Camp and Preseason will determine his fate IMO. They aren’t that high on duke. The guy got a reserves/future contract out of the cfl and has participated in what for us? maybe foster but you are crazy if you think duke is dictating any roster decision at all right now 1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said: I would love nothing more than Zay to put up an epic season. I’m not a poster who cares about being right about a feeling over Bills and our players succeeding. Again, this was just a feeling and I said they would add 2 to 3 WRs in free agency and draft in some way. They did exactly that, just was all in free agency. So now Zay has to prove he’s better than one of Brown or Foster or he will be a backup. And Duke will have his own shot to prove he belongs too. Cole is 100% the unquestioned slot WR, so he’s lost that battle already. Now it’s down to can be beat out Brown or Foster while also holding off Duke. So I still remain skeptical. Or he’s a fine backup to keep? Why does he have to be a starter? I’m fine with him as #4
Alphadawg7 Posted April 28, 2019 Author Posted April 28, 2019 And we did just add 2 more WRs as UDFAs. One of them is a kid who was projected mid round - David Sills V - and he is a guy who has a real shot at this roster. So the WR battle is going to be very fun to watch with TWO wildcards in the equation IMO with Duke and Sills. 1 minute ago, NoSaint said: They aren’t that high on duke. The guy got a reserves/future contract out of the cfl and has participated in what for us? maybe foster but you are crazy if you think duke is dictating any roster decision at all right now Or he’s a fine backup to keep? Why does he have to be a starter? I’m fine with him as #4 Beane loves draft capital and value. I think he will try and recoup something for Zay if he’s going to be a backup. Just my opinion. 1
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 28, 2019 Posted April 28, 2019 Still hate the Zay pick but he’s pretty much a lock for the roster unless he fights for Jesus again. 1
Alphadawg7 Posted April 28, 2019 Author Posted April 28, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: I also think there's a high chance he's a surprise cut this season. Edited April 28, 2019 by Alphadawg7 1
Teddy KGB Posted April 28, 2019 Posted April 28, 2019 20 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Still hate the Zay pick but he’s pretty much a lock for the roster unless he fights for Jesus again. He’s gonna have to fight w Sills V 1
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted April 28, 2019 Posted April 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: He’s gonna have to fight w Sills V Yeah, that isn’t the least bit accurate.
RocCityRoller Posted April 28, 2019 Posted April 28, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: He’s gonna have to fight w Sills V Sills looks a lot like Julian Edelman, a converted QB that produces. Look at his film, his adjustments, ball tracking, speed its all there Edited April 28, 2019 by RocCityRoller 1
Teddy KGB Posted April 28, 2019 Posted April 28, 2019 Just now, RocCityRoller said: Sills looks a lot like Julian Edelman, a converted QB that produces. Look at his film, his adjustments, ball tracking, speed its all there Yep, he’s awesome. This guy doesn’t approve ????????♂️ 7 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: Yeah, that isn’t the least bit accurate.
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted April 28, 2019 Posted April 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Teddy KGB said: Yep, he’s awesome. This guy doesn’t approve ????????♂️ Stills is awesome! I’m stoked he signed with us. He isn’t kicking Zay off the team. He might get the fifth spot, but that would be it. He isn’t talented enough to beat out Zay.
Guest K-GunJimKelly12 Posted April 28, 2019 Posted April 28, 2019 Zay had had his struggles but I thought he started to come on last year. This thread seems a bit ridiculous to me. He had 56 catches for 652 yards and 7 TD's last season. The offense was a mess until Allen got going and then it was they still had major problems. Some of those TD's were really nice plays by Zay as well.
Augie Posted April 28, 2019 Posted April 28, 2019 (edited) Zay showed vast improvement between year one and year two. Something strange was obviously going on in his life. I look forward to what he brings in year three. I expect a very pleasant surprise. . Edited April 28, 2019 by Augie 1
Alphadawg7 Posted April 28, 2019 Author Posted April 28, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, NoSaint said: They aren’t that high on duke. The guy got a reserves/future contract out of the cfl and has participated in what for us? maybe foster but you are crazy if you think duke is dictating any roster decision at all right now Or he’s a fine backup to keep? Why does he have to be a starter? I’m fine with him as #4 You clearly didn’t listen Beane in his post draft presser just a little while ago specifically talk quite highly of Duke now did you Hint: I did Take away was they think that kid can play and said wait until he has pads on and it’s 11 on 11 for real. Edited April 28, 2019 by Alphadawg7
Scorp83 Posted April 28, 2019 Posted April 28, 2019 3 hours ago, Boatdrinks said: Every team has guys that don’t pan out. At least they cut their losses and moved on pretty quickly. Not Peterman...it took for the fanbase to cry out for them to do it... 1
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