IgotBILLStopay Posted February 25, 2019 Posted February 25, 2019 Quote The last few years, the idea of compensatory picks as currency has hit the mainstream to the point where some fans are now viewing the ones given at the bottom of the third round—which is as high as they go—as gold. The truth? Well … Here’s the complete list of players to be drafted with those picks in the last four years: • 2015: Geneo Grissom (Patriots), Steve Nelson (Chiefs), Paul Dawson (Bengals) • 2016: Graham Glasgow (Lions), Vincent Valentine (Patriots), Rees Odhiambo (Seahawks), Justin Simmons (Broncos) • 2017: Cordrea Tankersley (Dolphins), Chad Williams (Cardinals), Rasul Douglas (Eagles), Jonnu Smith (Titans), Brendan Langley (Broncos), Nazair Jones (Seahawks), Trey Hendrickson (Saints), C.J. Beathard (49ers), James Conner (Steelers), Amara Darboh (Seahawks), Kendall Beckwith (Bucs). • 2018: Mason Cole (Cardinals), Jordan Akins (Texans), Isaac Yiadom (Texans), Dorian O’Daniel (Chiefs). … There are good players in that mess of names, of course. But Conner is the only one of the 22 to make a Pro Bowl to this point. In fact, he’s the only one of 34 third-round comp picks to make it this decade. Which is just something to keep in mind, when you’re weighing whether your team should let a player go, and may be thinking, “Well, we’ll just get a good comp pick back anyway.” Remember, those third-rounders are compensation for the most highly paid free agents. (By the way, the best comp pick of all-time probably will always be the 199th pick in the 2000 draft... I’m sure you guys know who that is.) Doesnt look mind bogglingly great. https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/02/25/robert-kraft-prostitution-charges-sex-trafficking-patriots-nfl-combine-dwayne-haskins-kyler-murray But, teams have started valuing em a bit more these days. Quote 2. Why the increased picks in 2017? That was the first year that comp picks were allowed to be traded, which certainly affected how they were valued by teams. Another factor? The last couple weeks, you’ve heard more and more that, rather than cutting players, teams were “declining options” on guys like Pierre Garçon, Austin Seferian-Jenkins and Terrance Williams, because more teams are structuring contracts that way. Why? Because if you cut a player, he doesn’t go into the comp pick formula. If you decline his option, he does. And more than just teams being smarter about the CBA, it’s something players should pay attention to when negotiating contracts—doing these deals this way actually creates incentive for teams to whack guys.
John from Riverside Posted February 25, 2019 Posted February 25, 2019 They can now be traded though correct? I could see some value in a 3rd rounder that gets you a higher 2nd round selection? 2
Bing Bong Posted February 25, 2019 Posted February 25, 2019 (edited) Comp picks are a great idea. Surprised the NBA doesn't have them as it hits small franchises in leagues with more player mobility the hardest. Could be the exponentially higher value in a 2 round draft but nevertheless.. lost supermax deals would only result in 1 or 2 comp picks a year in that league. Edited February 25, 2019 by BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P
CaptnCoke11 Posted February 25, 2019 Posted February 25, 2019 Very sensitive subject on this board.. you have the people who couldn’t care less about comp picks then you have the people that kick, scream and cry when the Bills don’t get any.
plenzmd1 Posted February 25, 2019 Posted February 25, 2019 2 hours ago, IgotBILLStopay said: Doesnt look mind bogglingly great. https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/02/25/robert-kraft-prostitution-charges-sex-trafficking-patriots-nfl-combine-dwayne-haskins-kyler-murray But, teams have started valuing em a bit more these days. well, i don't think you take just the guys picked in the 3rd round on comp picks and gauge the value, but players drafted after that pick that turned into good to very good players to great players...that is what the pick represents. 1
gonzo1105 Posted February 26, 2019 Posted February 26, 2019 You should only value them when you have a franchise QB and need to constantly stock up on more picks to have cheaper contracts. Thats my opinion. If you dont have that guy then a 3rd or 4th round pick usually doesn't matter unless you hit on said Franchise QB with one of them.
co_springs_billsfan Posted February 26, 2019 Posted February 26, 2019 They should only be awarded to non playoff teams. Promotes parity 1 1
Augie Posted February 26, 2019 Posted February 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, co_springs_billsfan said: They should only be awarded to non playoff teams. Promotes parity Another good reason for us to miss the playoffs! I like it.... 1 1
JMF2006 Posted February 26, 2019 Posted February 26, 2019 I think the formula for awarding them should change. Playoff teams should be ineligible. The worst teams get the most Teams 32 to 26 should get 5 one each round 3,45,6,7 Teams 25 to 20 should get 4 in rnds 3, 4,5,7 Teams 19-15 get 3 in rnds 3,5,7 Teams 14 and 13 get 2 in rnds 4,6. Why allow the most powerful teams to get stronger? It would help the doormats get competitive.
racketmaster Posted February 26, 2019 Posted February 26, 2019 2 hours ago, JMF2006 said: I think the formula for awarding them should change. Playoff teams should be ineligible. The worst teams get the most Teams 32 to 26 should get 5 one each round 3,45,6,7 Teams 25 to 20 should get 4 in rnds 3, 4,5,7 Teams 19-15 get 3 in rnds 3,5,7 Teams 14 and 13 get 2 in rnds 4,6. Why allow the most powerful teams to get stronger? It would help the doormats get competitive. The draft order going from worst to first, NFL schedule (playing part of schedule against similarly ranked divisional opponents) and the salary cap already promote parity. I don’t think incompetence needs to be rewarded any further than it is.
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