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3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Apparently Kyler was at St Elmo’s last night and our local radio host was standing next to him who said he’s been 5’10 his whole life and is now 40. He said he was taller than Kyler standing next to him. He said he’s absolutely shocked he’s measured over 5’10. He said from talking to people at the combine, the hype is out of control on Murray and it’s all based on mayfield’s success.

 

Guy sounds like a nut job.  

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Posted
1 minute ago, whatdrought said:

Oof. 166 for Brown is rough... hopefully that’s a result of the injury.

 

It's slightly heavier than expected actually lol. NFL teams thought he was 160 at the beginning of the year (also had him pegged like 1.5" taller than he is)

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3 minutes ago, DCOrange said:

 

It's slightly heavier than expected actually lol. NFL teams thought he was 160 at the beginning of the year (also had him pegged like 1.5" taller than he is)

 

The 1 for 1 comparisons that teams make to justify these guys being able to succeed eliminates the room for the human element. 

 

Tyreek Hill can play as a tiny guy, I'm sure Hollywood Brown can too. Completely leaves out the idea that Hill might be the 1 in a million exception. Same story for Murray and Wilson. 

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5 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

 

The 1 for 1 comparisons that teams make to justify these guys being able to succeed eliminates the room for the human element. 

 

Tyreek Hill can play as a tiny guy, I'm sure Hollywood Brown can too. Completely leaves out the idea that Hill might be the 1 in a million exception. Same story for Murray and Wilson. 

Tyreek is much thicker though, like 185.

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16 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

 

The 1 for 1 comparisons that teams make to justify these guys being able to succeed eliminates the room for the human element. 

 

Tyreek Hill can play as a tiny guy, I'm sure Hollywood Brown can too. Completely leaves out the idea that Hill might be the 1 in a million exception. Same story for Murray and Wilson. 

And that’s who he should be compared to in terms of both size and the baseball background that allows him to run “smart” and slide - Wilson. But hand size difference - Wilson’s were over 10, and Wilson had much more playing experience (as did Baker) 

 

 

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13 minutes ago, FeelingOnYouboty said:

 

 

OH MY WORD! He's not lasting till #9

 

That's incredible to me.

 

The guy looks like an athlete for sure, but geez.  He averaged 3.5 receptions per game in less than 2 full college seasons.  He's had a grand total 5 games (out of 21) in which he had 5 or more receptions, and they came against South Alabama, Tennessee-Martin, Kentucky (ok, that's a good one), South Illinois, and Kent State. In contrast, he's had 3 or fewer receptions in 10 of 21 games.

 

It's a draft pick that's based purely upon potential and not production, which is okay if you're a team that can afford to be wrong about him.

 

But if you're a team like Buffalo, and you're picking a WR at No. 9 overall, then you need that guy to be a stud.

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2 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:

 

That's incredible to me.

 

The guy looks like an athlete for sure, but geez.  He averaged 3.5 receptions per game in less than 2 full college seasons.  He's had a grand total 5 games (out of 21) in which he had 5 or more receptions, and they came against South Alabama, Tennessee-Martin, Kentucky (ok, that's a good one), South Illinois, and Kent State. In contrast, he's had 3 or fewer receptions in 10 of 21 games.

 

It's a draft pick that's based purely upon potential and not production, which is okay if you're a team that can afford to be wrong about him.

 

But if you're a team like Buffalo, and you're picking a WR at No. 9 overall, then you need that guy to be a stud.

Metcalf may end up making me look stupid and this is really nothing against him... but when it comes to Ole Miss WR in this draft, I’m 100% Team AJ Brown especially for the Bills.

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Just now, YoloinOhio said:

Metcalf may end up making me look stupid and this is really nothing against him... but when it comes to Ole Miss WR in this draft, I’m 100% Team AJ Brown.

 

I actually think that DK may end up a really good football player, but right now he's an athlete that's playing football, and I have a really hard time picking those guys early.

 

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1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said:

Metcalf may end up making me look stupid and this is really nothing against him... but when it comes to Ole Miss WR in this draft, I’m 100% Team AJ Brown especially for the Bills.

 

Yeah, I am fine being wrong, and I don't have as strong a feeling as I have about others in the past, but I really don't love Metcalf... I think he's a risk. 

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Just now, YoloinOhio said:

Metcalf may end up making me look stupid and this is really nothing against him... but when it comes to Ole Miss WR in this draft, I’m 100% Team AJ Brown especially for the Bills.

I love Brown, but I think he's really a slot.

 

Ole Miss is a tough place to rate receivers.  Odd system.

 

IMO, Metcalf is a stud and great fit for Allen.  That first play of the game against Alabama...  yes please.

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2 minutes ago, SWATeam said:

I love Brown, but I think he's really a slot.

 

Ole Miss is a tough place to rate receivers.  Odd system.

 

IMO, Metcalf is a stud and great fit for Allen.  That first play of the game against Alabama...  yes please.

We really need a slot WR

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Tyree winning the #handsize game:

 

#NFLCombine key measurements thread… 143. #Buffalo QB Tyree Jackson Height: 6-7 Weight: 249 Hand: 10 2/8 Arm: 34 2/8 Wingspan: 83 6/8

3 minutes ago, SWATeam said:

I love Brown, but I think he's really a slot.

 

Ole Miss is a tough place to rate receivers.  Odd system.

 

IMO, Metcalf is a stud and great fit for Allen.  That first play of the game against Alabama...  yes please.

 

When I think about DK and Allen, I keep coming back to this: what does DK give Allen that N'Keal Harry--who you can probably get early on day 2--doesn't?

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Just now, YoloinOhio said:

We really need a slot WR

I'm hoping Zay is that guy.  But yeah, tough to really count on him completely at this point.  But I think the real need is on the outside.

1 minute ago, thebandit27 said:

Tyree winning the #handsize game:

 

#NFLCombine key measurements thread… 143. #Buffalo QB Tyree Jackson Height: 6-7 Weight: 249 Hand: 10 2/8 Arm: 34 2/8 Wingspan: 83 6/8

 

When I think about DK and Allen, I keep coming back to this: what does DK give Allen that N'Keal Harry--who you can probably get early on day 2--doesn't?

That's easy, speed and the ability to seperate.  DK is a freak.  Harry isn't, love his hands though.

Posted (edited)
5 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

We really need a slot WR

 

Sometimes I think this, and then sometimes I don't.. I really can't keep track of way Jones is supposed to play, and I don't much care for him anyways. It seems that the prototypical WR ideas are being busted here lately, but I don't know how to take that. Do we need a height guy? Do we need a possession guy? Do we need another speed guy? I don't see anyone in the draft who checks all the boxes and can run every route and make every play. 

 

 

3 minutes ago, SWATeam said:

I'm hoping Zay is that guy.  But yeah, tough to really count on him completely at this point.  But I think the real need is on the outside.

That's easy, speed and the ability to seperate.  DK is a freak.  Harry isn't, love his hands though.

 

Seperation is important, but at the pro level it needs to be done with more than just speed. Route running creates seperation at this level- speed helps. The knock on DK (at least some that I have seen, for what that's worth) is that he's unpolished and a sloppy route runner. I don't like that much. 

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