Tatonka68 Posted February 24, 2019 Posted February 24, 2019 I think their is a chance Allen could pass for over 3000 yards and rush for 1000 yards and score a combined 38 TDS. What do you think? 1
Alphadawg7 Posted February 24, 2019 Posted February 24, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Tatonka68 said: I think their is a chance Allen could pass for over 3000 yards and rush for 1000 yards and score a combined 38 TDS. What do you think? Thats too low. If you look at the games Allen played after coming back from injury and project that out to a full season he would already have a similar stat line for passing and rushing yards. And that was with a weak group of receivers and a bad OL as a Rookie QB. I think Allen will eclipse 4000 yards passing this year. With his passing numbers up, I am not sure he will average the 62.5 yards rushing per game it will take tot get to 1000 yards rushing, so I know he can easily get to 1000 yards, but I don't expect him to have quite that many. My prediction is 4000 yards passing, 700 yards rushing and I do think he can and will get into the near 38 combined TD range. Im expecting 10 or so just from rushing and then can easily see him put up another 25-30 passing TD's. That may seem like unlikely to some, but I feel pretty strongly he will get to or at least flirt with these numbers this next season. Edited February 24, 2019 by Alphadawg7 3 1
SF Bills Fan Posted February 24, 2019 Posted February 24, 2019 Problem is that if he’s running that much, the exposure to injury is greater. I’m a huge fan of those big runs, but it’s always a relief when it ends with no serious contact. 1
Inigo Montoya Posted February 24, 2019 Posted February 24, 2019 I don't see 1,000 rushing yards but I do think this is a break out season for Allen. Look at what Allen did in the second half of the year with no supporting cast. This will be his second year in the offense, he should have a decent O-line in front of him so he's not running for his life every snap, a running game to keep the defense honest, give him a couple receivers who can get separation and catch the ball, and I think Allen is going to surprise a lot of the "experts" with what he can do. I think we are on the verge of being a good football team again for the first time in two decades. 2 1
Augie Posted February 24, 2019 Posted February 24, 2019 11 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Thats too low. If you look at the games Allen played after coming back from injury and project that out to a full season he would already have a similar stat line for passing and rushing yards. And that was with a weak group of receivers and a bad OL as a Rookie QB. I think Allen will eclipse 4000 yards passing this year. With his passing numbers up, I am not sure he will average the 62.5 yards rushing per game it will take tot get to 1000 yards rushing, so I know he can easily get to 1000 yards, but I don't expect him to have quite that many. My prediction is 4000 yards passing, 700 yards rushing and I do think he can and will get into the near 38 combined TD range. Im expecting 10 or so just from rushing and then can easily see him put up another 25-30 passing TD's. That may seem like unlikely to some, but I feel pretty strongly he will get to or at least flirt with these numbers this next season. I like more passing....and less running. Only at key moments, and get down or OB. 1
Warcodered Posted February 24, 2019 Posted February 24, 2019 I'm hoping the passing game will open up more for him and hopefully a better O-line will improve the teams run game which all would likely lead to him having to run it less often. 1
CincyBillsFan Posted February 24, 2019 Posted February 24, 2019 I'm also optimistic that this will be Allen's breakout year. I'm thinking 3600 yards passing and 800 yards rushing. Figure on 25 - 30 passing TD's & 10 - 15 rushing TD's. I suspect that Allen & Jackson are the start of an NFL trend where a QB's run game is a bigger part of the offense. And it won't all be read option plays - there will be a lot of diversity in HOW teams utilize their running QB. In the case of Jackson the Ravens will employ designed runs as the focus of their offense. The Bills will rely more on classic QB scrambles to generate chunk rushing yards by Allen. Either way a running QB will increasingly be a significant part of a teams offense. In the case of the Bills I look for Allen's rushing TD's to be as high as 15 as he is probably the best at the QB sneak for those short yardage TD's and his running ability will be deadly in the Bills red zone offense next year. As for injury's, who knows. That's the big bugaboo in all this. But I think Allen can rush for 50 yards a game, most of which will be critical yardage, AND stay healthy over the course of a season. Only time will tell if my optimism is warranted.
Bangarang Posted February 24, 2019 Posted February 24, 2019 (edited) He has the potential to have all of the yards and score all of the TDs Edited February 24, 2019 by Bangarang
machine gun kelly Posted February 24, 2019 Posted February 24, 2019 22 minutes ago, Inigo Montoya said: I don't see 1,000 rushing yards but I do think this is a break out season for Allen. Look at what Allen did in the second half of the year with no supporting cast. This will be his second year in the offense, he should have a decent O-line in front of him so he's not running for his life every snap, a running game to keep the defense honest, give him a couple receivers who can get separation and catch the ball, and I think Allen is going to surprise a lot of the "experts" with what he can do. I think we are on the verge of being a good football team again for the first time in two decades. Inigo, I tend to agree and one of my absolute favorite avatars. Most top running QB’s go for somewhere in the 500’s. He may beat it, but with a good line and better WR/TE’s, he can definitely get 3000 yards passing and maybe 600-700 yards rushing. We’ll know a bit more after FA and the Draft. 1
CaptnCoke11 Posted February 24, 2019 Posted February 24, 2019 3500ish passing and 5/600 rushing would be ideal
JerseyBills Posted February 24, 2019 Posted February 24, 2019 Very possible. He is likely the best overall running QB. Power, Speed, agility , but his secret weapon is he can hit any spot on the field from anywhere on the field so he really puts certain defenders in a bind, they'll freeze up and that half second causes a Defensive Breakdown. I expect a big time jump in year 2 , his first full NFL offseason , it was a big jump from his Wyoming training , now he's getting top of the line coaching and mentiorship and this will be his first full NFL offseason and I think he can benefit more than other QBs and his upside is just ridiculously high in so many areas. He checks alot of the boxes for Legit Franchise QB material. His moxie, swag, confidence and natural leadership are almost as important as his on field ability 3
Alphadawg7 Posted February 24, 2019 Posted February 24, 2019 7 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said: I'm also optimistic that this will be Allen's breakout year. I'm thinking 3600 yards passing and 800 yards rushing. Figure on 25 - 30 passing TD's & 10 - 15 rushing TD's. I suspect that Allen & Jackson are the start of an NFL trend where a QB's run game is a bigger part of the offense. And it won't all be read option plays - there will be a lot of diversity in HOW teams utilize their running QB. In the case of Jackson the Ravens will employ designed runs as the focus of their offense. The Bills will rely more on classic QB scrambles to generate chunk rushing yards by Allen. Either way a running QB will increasingly be a significant part of a teams offense. In the case of the Bills I look for Allen's rushing TD's to be as high as 15 as he is probably the best at the QB sneak for those short yardage TD's and his running ability will be deadly in the Bills red zone offense next year. As for injury's, who knows. That's the big bugaboo in all this. But I think Allen can rush for 50 yards a game, most of which will be critical yardage, AND stay healthy over the course of a season. Only time will tell if my optimism is warranted. For comparison fun: Lamar Jackson: Ceiling: Michael Vick. Josh Allen: Ceiling: Steve Young. I keep saying that the QB Allen most compares to IMO is Steve Young. I think he is going to be a feared passer and a feared scrambler just like Young was. 2 1 1
Ol Dirty B Posted February 24, 2019 Posted February 24, 2019 31 minutes ago, Inigo Montoya said: he should have a decent O-line in front of him Based on what? I'm expecting them to attempt to address it, but we have no reason at all at this point to believe it will be better. Everyone was talking about WR for a year now, and what did they do to address that last year?
White Linen Posted February 24, 2019 Posted February 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: For comparison fun: Lamar Jackson: Ceiling: Michael Vick. Josh Allen: Ceiling: Steve Young. I keep saying that the QB Allen most compares to IMO is Steve Young. I think he is going to be a feared passer and a feared scrambler just like Young was. Allen reminds me much more of Elway. Young had a pretty weak arm. Elway could elude you and then throw a laser beam down field to demoralize you.
Inigo Montoya Posted February 24, 2019 Posted February 24, 2019 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said: Based on what? I'm expecting them to attempt to address it, but we have no reason at all at this point to believe it will be better. Everyone was talking about WR for a year now, and what did they do to address that last year? Fair point ODB. I think its likely with the cap space and draft picks we will add to the roster in those areas and not subtract. I can't imagine the O-line or WR groups being worse than they were last year. I am so glad Benjamin is gone. In all my years of being a Bills fan, I have never hated a Bills player until Kelvin Benjamin. Edited February 24, 2019 by Inigo Montoya 1
C.Biscuit97 Posted February 24, 2019 Posted February 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: For comparison fun: Lamar Jackson: Ceiling: Michael Vick. Josh Allen: Ceiling: Steve Young. I keep saying that the QB Allen most compares to IMO is Steve Young. I think he is going to be a feared passer and a feared scrambler just like Young was. I hate being Debbie downer but you realize Steve Young is considered one of the most accurate qbs ever right? He completely 71% of his passes his last year in college when teams were actually allowed to play physical. Also, how many qbs in history have done this? I love the enthusiasm but I’m not sure how realistic it is. 3
Augie Posted February 24, 2019 Posted February 24, 2019 22 minutes ago, Inigo Montoya said: Fair point ODB. I think its likely with the cap space and draft picks we will add to the roster in those areas and not subtract. I can't imagine the O-line or WR groups being worse than they were last year. I am so happy Benjamin is gone. In all my years of being a Bills fan, I have never hated a Bills player before Benjamin... You were leaning toward the positive, not the dark side. Nothing wrong with that! I love it! We have plenty of resources to address our needs on offense. Will they get it all right? Probably not, but hopefully we get more right than wrong. Some people will complain if we win the next five Super Bowls, but only cover the spread four times. 2
RobbRiddick Posted February 24, 2019 Posted February 24, 2019 He's always reminded me more of Favre tbh. The passing, obviously, not the running. I loved watching Favre play which is probably why I love watching Allen. It's funny, I was watching his combine trials the other day and he has the weirdest running style during his sprints, looks really awkward and unnatural. Lots of the comments mention it as well. Yet when he's out there running on the field he looks so natural. I've been watching quite a few Allen vids lately, there's some great ones on YouTube. He's easily my fav player now and I really hope he ends up being a great one for us. He has just the right kind of cockiness that a QB needs, the kind that's confident but never makes him a bad teammate to have. Oh, and that TD pass against the Jags was something to behold. 70+ yards with defenders all around him with almost a flick of the wrist. If he starts doing that sort of ***** regularly this season he'll become a favourite of many neutrals around the country. People love entertaining players and he's certainly one of those
Sherlock Holmes Posted February 24, 2019 Posted February 24, 2019 I'm talking about 5500+ yards passing throwing for 56 Tds and 2200 yards rushing with 28 rushing tds. Sending that pigskin to the moon along the way?
Alphadawg7 Posted February 24, 2019 Posted February 24, 2019 42 minutes ago, White Linen said: Allen reminds me much more of Elway. Young had a pretty weak arm. Elway could elude you and then throw a laser beam down field to demoralize you. Wasnt so much comparing arm strength as I was style of play. Downfield threat, very dangerous runner. But yes, Elway is also a good comparison, but Young was a better runner than Elway.
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