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If someone actually bothers to read the thread, you would clearly see that I am referring to the idea that Kraft should automatically KNOW that the massage place was filled with sex slaves (it wasn't), and I stated that people are being exploited in various ways all around us, and pointed out that women are often hiring the VERY SAME women at nail salons for low cost salon treatments, and that often the customers are fully aware that they are receiving service from technicians that are being exploited.

 

I also stated that most massage parlors are connected to nail salons, and this was contested. These 2 businesses being closely linked .

 

Did I say ALL nail salons are connected to massage parlors? NO

Did I say getting cheap nail service is illegal, and equal to receiving illegal sexual favors? NO

 

 

I think it was pretty clear that I wasn't making those claims, yet some here somehow managed to imply that I had in fact made those claims. 

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5 minutes ago, OJ Tom said:

 

If someone actually bothers to read the thread, you would clearly see that I am referring to the idea that Kraft should automatically KNOW that the massage place was filled with sex slaves (it wasn't), and I stated that people are being exploited in various ways all around us, and pointed out that women are often hiring the VERY SAME women at nail salons for low cost salon treatments, and that often the customers are fully aware that they are receiving service from technicians that are being exploited.

 

I also stated that most massage parlors are connected to nail salons, and this was contested. I am right about these 2 business being closely linked.

 

Did I say ALL nail salons are connected to massage parlors? NO

Did I say getting cheap nail service is illegal, and equal to receiving illegal sexual favors? NO

 

 

I think it was pretty clear that I wasn't making those claims, yet some here somehow managed to imply that I had in fact made those claims. I don't know if they were serious, or disingenuous, or just stupid. 

I wasn't talking to you and I have read the whole thread. Otherwise I would have pointed out the things you said instead. 

 

I never said you made any claims about what had happened or speculated on what was going on.  Just pointing out that one person's opinion that being forced to do nails vs giving someone head is only "slightly worse". 

 

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3 minutes ago, The Wiz said:

I wasn't talking to you and I have read the whole thread. Otherwise I would have pointed out the things you said instead. 

 

I never said you made any claims about what had happened or speculated on what was going on.  Just pointing out that one person's opinion that being forced to do nails vs giving someone head is only slightly worse. 

 

 

 

I KNOW. I am giving a general response to the variety of attacks I received.

My apologies, I have removed your quote from my response.

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26 minutes ago, BillsSB2020 said:

Yes. I stand by what I said. What they are FORCED to do under threat of death is not the MAIN issue. It's the FORCED labor itself.

So tell me. 

 

Would you rather give 1 person head or do 10 sets of nails? 

 

Against your will of course. 

6 minutes ago, OJ Tom said:

 

 

I KNOW. I am giving a general response to the variety of attacks I received.

My apologies, I have removed your quote from my response.

All good. 

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23 minutes ago, The Wiz said:

So tell me. 

 

Would you rather give 1 person head or do 10 sets of nails? 

 

Against your will of course.

I take your point, and my usage of the word slightly was short sighted. It's worse. Not just slightly. Overall, I was positing that we ought to focus on the big picture and not just the salacious. The authorities are doing just that.

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2 hours ago, OJ Tom said:

 

If someone actually bothers to read the thread, you would clearly see that I am referring to the idea that Kraft should automatically KNOW that the massage place was filled with sex slaves (it wasn't), and I stated that people are being exploited in various ways all around us, and pointed out that women are often hiring the VERY SAME women at nail salons for low cost salon treatments, and that often the customers are fully aware that they are receiving service from technicians that are being exploited.

 

I also stated that most massage parlors are connected to nail salons, and this was contested. These 2 businesses being closely linked .

 

Did I say ALL nail salons are connected to massage parlors? NO

Did I say getting cheap nail service is illegal, and equal to receiving illegal sexual favors? NO

 

 

I think it was pretty clear that I wasn't making those claims, yet some here somehow managed to imply that I had in fact made those claims. 

Dude, you shouldn't have said those things that you said.  Not cool. 

 

Have some class and apologize to the board.

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2 hours ago, OJ Tom said:

 

 

I KNOW. I am giving a general response to the variety of attacks I received.

My apologies, I have removed your quote from my response.

 

So how long have you been in the human trafficking biz?

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Never thought I would see a 50 page thread on here about a dude getting a rub and tug.  

 

Really cant fathom what could still be getting discussed to drive this to 50 pages already.  

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35 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

Dude, you shouldn't have said those things that you said.  Not cool. 

 

Have some class and apologize to the board.

 

27 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

So how long have you been in the human trafficking biz?

 

 

You guys are mean.

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7 minutes ago, OJ Tom said:

 

 

 

You guys are mean.

 

There may have been a little misunderstanding on a controversial topic about some of your posts. I don’t think both those guys are mean, but I’m not naming names. 

 

 

Right now. 

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7 hours ago, The Wiz said:

So tell me. 

 

Would you rather give 1 person head or do 10 sets of nails? 

 

Against your will of course. 

All good. 

Well you would be giving 10 people head, or doing 10 sets of nails. 1:1 ratio

4 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

Never thought I would see a 50 page thread on here about a dude getting a rub and tug.  

 

Really cant fathom what could still be getting discussed to drive this to 50 pages already.  

Has nothing to do with a rub and tug, more to do with rich people doing illegal things and probably getting away with it 

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13 minutes ago, Boca BIlls said:

Has nothing to do with a rub and tug, more to do with rich people doing illegal things and probably getting away with it 

 

Huh?  Rich people getting away with illegal things?  

 

First, most the people visiting rub and tugs aren’t rich, so this has nothing to do with “rich people”.  

 

Second this is just a misdemeanor offense and not a big deal.

 

The “rich” guy didn’t get away with it, he got charged.  

 

So your statement seems flawed considering he’s rich and is one of the very few who use them regularly who didn’t get away with it.

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3 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Huh?  Rich people getting away with illegal things?  

 

First, most the people visiting rub and tugs aren’t rich, so this has nothing to do with “rich people”.  

 

Second this is just a misdemeanor offense and not a big deal.

 

The “rich” guy didn’t get away with it, he got charged.  

 

So your statement seems flawed considering he’s rich and is one of the very few who use them regularly who didn’t get away with it.

He is sitting safely in his house while the other guys who don't have as much money as him atre already charged processed and had warrants if they weren't. 

 

So yes this is about the rich, always was, always will be. If Kraft wasn't rich you would have never of even heard of this sting operation.

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47 minutes ago, Boca BIlls said:

He is sitting safely in his house while the other guys who don't have as much money as him atre already charged processed and had warrants if they weren't. 

 

So yes this is about the rich, always was, always will be. If Kraft wasn't rich you would have never of even heard of this sting operation.

 

We would have, but the story would have gone stale the next day.   

 

Or mentioned in connection of sex other slave cases in other states. 

 

17 of these men will serve some time. The rich folks will send lawyers and jet to a new location to get serviced.  

 

the one think they can't avoid is the public humiliation of them being so stupid..   

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10 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

Never thought I would see a 50 page thread on here about a dude getting a rub and tug.  

 

Really cant fathom what could still be getting discussed to drive this to 50 pages already.  

 

How many pages was the Shady's ex-GF thread?

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Watching them test waters of conditional morality and situational morality.  Not all the girls now were confined and imprisoned to the massage parlor.  Yup, that makes things so much better when he frequented the establishment.  Burner cellular phone to know when girls came in and burner credit cards to keep it anonymous.  With another Boston billionaires hitting the front page I think Bob Kraft is a rolling and talking stone.  

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6 hours ago, Doc said:

 

How many pages was the Shady's ex-GF thread?

for a second I was  :huh:

 

then I remembered ......   Which ex-GF thread??   all of them were way toooooo long. 

 

Christ how many hundred pages did FAKE Dunkirk Don get?  

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14 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

foe a second I was  :huh:

 

then I remembered ......   Which ex-GF thread??   all of them were way toooooo long. 

 

Christ how many hundred pages did FAKE Dunkirk Don get?  

because there was so much outrage on how he was being, "bullied" at first.  it was insane.  

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13 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

Never thought I would see a 50 page thread on here about a dude getting a rub and tug.  

 

Really cant fathom what could still be getting discussed to drive this to 50 pages already.  

Are you kidding? This topic has it all. Conflict (rich vs. poor), humor (some posters think this is funny), envy (after all it is the Patriots) and there is the notion that it pertains to football. There is hope this brings down the dynasty and helps the Bills return to relevance. So.......

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6 minutes ago, iinii said:

Are you kidding? This topic has it all. Conflict (rich vs. poor), humor (some posters think this is funny), envy (after all it is the Patriots) and there is the notion that it pertains to football. There is hope this brings down the dynasty and helps the Bills return to relevance. So.......

 

What's not funny about a 76-year old billionaire dropping by an Asian massage parlor for 15 minutes to get a BJ?

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