The Wiz Posted February 22, 2019 Posted February 22, 2019 (edited) List of names (not sure if legit or not but found it here) https://www.wtnh.com/sports/patriots-owner-robert-kraft-identified-in-human-trafficking-and-prostitution-ring/1801506561 Edit: better image. Edited February 22, 2019 by The Wiz 1
Aussie Joe Posted February 22, 2019 Posted February 22, 2019 Just now, whatdrought said: The charges mean absolutely nothing. He was actively involved in human trafficking whether or not he was a decision maker in the process. The description of the conditions that these women were kept in alone is enough to make it clear that this isn't a basic prostitution thing. The public optic of this will be huge. I think we have differing opinions on “actively involved” if all he has done is get a massage with a happy ending
MJS Posted February 22, 2019 Posted February 22, 2019 Holy cow. I always thought he looked like a sleeze ball. What will the NFL do?
Canadian Bills Fan Posted February 22, 2019 Posted February 22, 2019 "In other news, the NFL has reached a new sponsorship agreement with the Juniper Massage Parlor" 2
YoloinOhio Posted February 22, 2019 Author Posted February 22, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Herc11 said: I'm guessing its an Asian massage parlor, which are all associated with trafficking and have been forever... The press act like this is a new industry. Human Trafficking is just the new buzzword for it. It’s a world wide problem. No one thinks it is a new problem. It succeeds because of men soliciting. Which is what Kraft was doing. This place was in a strip mall and the women lacked hygiene. As you said - not too hard for a billionaire to figure out what the place was doing. Edited February 22, 2019 by YoloinOhio 2
whatdrought Posted February 22, 2019 Posted February 22, 2019 Just now, Aussie Joe said: I think we have differing opinions on “actively involved” if all he has done is get a massage with a happy ending I think you're confusing his knowledge of his involvement with his involvement. Even if he didn't know (which is another conversation) his money was still used for human trafficking. They can't charge him with that unless they prove his intent and knowledge, but the optic of it is still there. He was actively involved in that. 1
RochesterRob Posted February 22, 2019 Posted February 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Aussie Joe said: I think we have differing opinions on “actively involved” if all he has done is get a massage with a happy ending The only thing that matters is the court of public opinion unfortunately. The NFL and CBS knows that.
LeGOATski Posted February 22, 2019 Posted February 22, 2019 Just now, Aussie Joe said: I think we have differing opinions on “actively involved” if all he has done is get a massage with a happy ending Specifically paid for it. That's active involvement. It's not a matter of opinion.
PromoTheRobot Posted February 22, 2019 Posted February 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, The Wiz said: List of names (not sure if legit or not but found it here) https://www.wtnh.com/sports/patriots-owner-robert-kraft-identified-in-human-trafficking-and-prostitution-ring/1801506561 Edit: better image. Phew, no Pegula, Terrance!
Aussie Joe Posted February 22, 2019 Posted February 22, 2019 Just now, RochesterRob said: The only thing that matters is the court of public opinion unfortunately. The NFL and CBS knows that. Ok.. let’s wait and see what happens.. 1 minute ago, LeGOATski said: Specifically paid for it. That's active involvement. It's not a matter of opinion. Prostitution yes.. not human trafficking
Herc11 Posted February 22, 2019 Posted February 22, 2019 (edited) 21 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: It’s a world wide problem. No one thinks it is a new problem. It succeeds because of men soliciting. Which is what Kraft was doing. Aware of not. It absolutely is a world wide problem, but did you know of the term 10 years ago? Or even that it was such a problem? I can't even drive a mile where I live without driving past a Asian massage parlor advertising $20 foot massages, etc... People are horrified when they read about it or hear it on the news, but don't give a crap when its happening right in front of their oblivious eyes. Edited February 22, 2019 by Herc11
Big Turk Posted February 22, 2019 Posted February 22, 2019 Hahaha...I'm sure his wife will be happy to see this... But seriously?? Rich dudes use escort services...
whatdrought Posted February 22, 2019 Posted February 22, 2019 Just now, YoloinOhio said: It’s a world wide problem. No one thinks it is a new problem. It succeeds because of men soliciting. Which is what Kraft was doing. Aware of not. Every year we hear about the FBI and other groups busting huge rings that were opperating around the Superbowl- to my knowledge, the NFL has never done much or said much in relation to this? - that being said, this will likely become a thing. If a Running back can be exiled for fighting with a woman who was an active participant in the fight, why is it hard to imagine an owner getting exiled for this? I feel that the double standard on that would give weight to the "rich white owners and their black slaves/players" narrative that many like to push.
ExWNYer Posted February 22, 2019 Posted February 22, 2019 16 minutes ago, judman said: I for one am sick of seeing this guy and his son get stroked by the sports media. I'm gonna bet the old man steps aside and junior takes over. Let's hope that they follow the same path as the Raiders. I don't think the "sports media" was doing the stroking in this case... 1
RochesterRob Posted February 22, 2019 Posted February 22, 2019 46 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: How amazing would it be if Kraft gets suspended for 4 games? Head Coach, HoF QB, and Owner will have all been subject to suspensions and fines. This is a whole lot more than sucker punching a woman.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted February 22, 2019 Posted February 22, 2019 1 minute ago, matter2003 said: Hahaha...I'm sure his wife will be happy to see this... But seriously?? Rich dudes use escort services... Maybe he just felt like a rub-n-tug
whatdrought Posted February 22, 2019 Posted February 22, 2019 Just now, YoloinOhio said: Haha Pay that man. 2
LABILLBACKER Posted February 22, 2019 Posted February 22, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: ...and karma was his name o loving this. what excuses will patsie fans/lovers be making up for this one, LOL Hookergate, thank God something to bump Jessie Smollett off the national news! Edited February 22, 2019 by LABILLBACKER
Bray Wyatt Posted February 22, 2019 Posted February 22, 2019 7 minutes ago, The Wiz said: List of names (not sure if legit or not but found it here) https://www.wtnh.com/sports/patriots-owner-robert-kraft-identified-in-human-trafficking-and-prostitution-ring/1801506561 Edit: better image. Schefter's tweet said there may be some big names still to come, I dont recognize any others on that list 1
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