DCOrange Posted April 15, 2019 Posted April 15, 2019 27 minutes ago, Doc said: All this to appease someone who he will probably divorce in a few years anyway? Isn't it possible that like a ton of other athletes, he also would like to live in NYC? Professional athletes wanting to play in New York isn't exactly shocking. The fact that it also might help his wife's career is a bonus.
SouthNYfan Posted April 15, 2019 Posted April 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, DCOrange said: Isn't it possible that like a ton of other athletes, he also would like to live in NYC? Professional athletes wanting to play in New York isn't exactly shocking. The fact that it also might help his wife's career is a bonus. He's just gonna play for the Yankees With all their injuries right now he's probably a MLB starter for them ?
ExWNYer Posted April 15, 2019 Posted April 15, 2019 12 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: If I'm Seattle I make the deal to the Giants for Barkely, Two #1's this year and a second in 2020. There is no way on God's green earth that neanderthal GM Dave Gettleman would never trade his prized, franchise RB. He's more likely to tear up Barkley's contract and make him the highest paid player in the league than trade him for a franchise QB. Haven't you heard...it's 2019. Championships are built on the backs of stud RBs not QBs. Just ask Davey. He'll tell you, all the while extolling the virtues of the wishbone offense...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 15, 2019 Posted April 15, 2019 Russell Wilson is a top 5 QB. He dragged a ? roster to the playoffs last year. If Seattle doesn’t hand him a blank check they are morons. With that being said, here’s my hypothetical trade that I think makes sense: Giants trade 6, 17, 2020 1st and Kevin Zeitler for Wilson.
BuffaloRebound Posted April 15, 2019 Posted April 15, 2019 You can’t let things go this far with your star QB. Gotta keep them happy. Doesn’t seem like Seattle has tried very hard. Wilson is extremely underpaid and they haven’t exactly surrounded him with offensive weapons.
Cripple Creek Posted April 15, 2019 Posted April 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said: You can’t let things go this far with your star QB. Gotta keep them happy. Doesn’t seem like Seattle has tried very hard. Wilson is extremely underpaid and they haven’t exactly surrounded him with offensive weapons. Quarterbacks who are paid their “fair” value invariably B word a season or two later when teams aren’t able to surround them with talent. 2
CommonCents Posted April 15, 2019 Posted April 15, 2019 He wants a contract that escalates with the salary cap increases each year. I love Russ as a player but I don’t know if I’d be setting that precedent. 3
SouthNYfan Posted April 15, 2019 Posted April 15, 2019 40 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said: You can’t let things go this far with your star QB. Gotta keep them happy. Doesn’t seem like Seattle has tried very hard. Wilson is extremely underpaid and they haven’t exactly surrounded him with offensive weapons. He signed 4 years and about 90 million with 32 guaranteed He's not that underpaid 36 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said: Quarterbacks who are paid their “fair” value invariably B word a season or two later when teams aren’t able to surround them with talent. Agreed Unless they are walking into a ready made team with a bunch of talent on cheap deals, they tend to suck up too much cap space Look how the falcons and Ravens fell apart after signing their QBs
Cripple Creek Posted April 15, 2019 Posted April 15, 2019 Just now, SouthNYfan said: Agreed Unless they are walking into a ready made team with a bunch of talent on cheap deals, they tend to suck up too much cap space Look how the falcons and Ravens fell apart after signing their QBs Damned if you do, damned if you don’t. Your only hope for sustained success, once you get your guy, is that he doesn’t feel the need to be highest paid as proof of ability. Those are rare, especially with agents and union whispering in ears. 1
dollars 2 donuts Posted April 15, 2019 Posted April 15, 2019 One of our board members linked to a great article about how teammates of Wilson's were more than a bit disgruntled and how the coaching staff and whole organization caters to Wilson...almost like a a softer precursor to Dunne's article on Rogers. ...that said, man, Russell does bring it.
Gugny Posted April 15, 2019 Posted April 15, 2019 There are good ways, and bad ways, to ask for a raise. Giving ultimatums doesn't work in most professions. Seahawks should tell him to go scratch his ass. 2
Doc Posted April 15, 2019 Posted April 15, 2019 1 hour ago, DCOrange said: Isn't it possible that like a ton of other athletes, he also would like to live in NYC? Professional athletes wanting to play in New York isn't exactly shocking. The fact that it also might help his wife's career is a bonus. It’s very possible. However here it seems like he’s catering to his lady. He can play anywhere so might as well keep the wife happy.
SouthNYfan Posted April 15, 2019 Posted April 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: Russell Wilson is a top 5 QB. He dragged a ? roster to the playoffs last year. If Seattle doesn’t hand him a blank check they are morons. With that being said, here’s my hypothetical trade that I think makes sense: Giants trade 6, 17, 2020 1st and Kevin Zeitler for Wilson. Eli means they aren't trading for any QB starter.
Kirby Jackson Posted April 15, 2019 Posted April 15, 2019 17 minutes ago, SouthNYfan said: Eli means they aren't trading for any QB starter. I don’t think that they are either but it is a huge mistake and may ultimately cost Gettleman his job. While Wilson is a top 5 QB today, Eli is a bottom 5 guy and 8 years older. 1
aristocrat Posted April 15, 2019 Posted April 15, 2019 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: he wants his deal to go up with the cap? i've nevered heard of a deal like that before.
BarleyNY Posted April 15, 2019 Posted April 15, 2019 2 hours ago, SouthNYfan said: Agreed It's going to be tough for them though Letting him walk gets you a comp pick or two i think As I said the problem is he's dictated where he wants to go already That murders trade value if it's only one place because you have nobody else bidding Why give up a kings random if you are the Giants, when you can just sign him next season? Their team is a trainwreck so there's no urgency to get him this season Seattle can tag Wilson for 1 year for sure and probably 2 years without cap issues. I can’t see him leaving that kind of money on the table by not signing the tag. He might not do it right away, but he’ll donor before the season. if the Giants want him they’re going to have to give up some value. They need him in the fold before camp be it this season or next. And honestly, if it’s going to happen then now is the right time for both teams. Gettleman has extra draft capital this year and it will look like he had a plan all along if he brings Wilson in. Seattle isn’t winning anything this season with or without Wilson so they might was well go full rebuild now and add some draft capital (which they’re sorely lacking as of now).
SouthNYfan Posted April 15, 2019 Posted April 15, 2019 7 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: Seattle can tag Wilson for 1 year for sure and probably 2 years without cap issues. I can’t see him leaving that kind of money on the table by not signing the tag. He might not do it right away, but he’ll donor before the season. if the Giants want him they’re going to have to give up some value. They need him in the fold before camp be it this season or next. And honestly, if it’s going to happen then now is the right time for both teams. Gettleman has extra draft capital this year and it will look like he had a plan all along if he brings Wilson in. Seattle isn’t winning anything this season with or without Wilson so they might was well go full rebuild now and add some draft capital (which they’re sorely lacking as of now). Agreed I think it's an interesting twist Does he pull a leveon bell? Who knows
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 15, 2019 Posted April 15, 2019 38 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I don’t think that they are either but it is a huge mistake and may ultimately cost Gettleman his job. While Wilson is a top 5 QB today, Eli is a bottom 5 guy and 8 years older. If I'm Gettleman, I'm trading for Rosen and letting him sit and learn all he can from Eli for 8 games to 1 year (if that wasn't obvious from our mock).
BarleyNY Posted April 15, 2019 Posted April 15, 2019 26 minutes ago, SouthNYfan said: Agreed I think it's an interesting twist Does he pull a leveon bell? Who knows He’d be looking at a 1 year, $28M contract. I can’t imagine him sitting out with that on the table, but who knows? There is one more twist: what about the potential lockout in 2021? How does that play into this? I don’t even think that Seattle could tag him a second time (for 2021) until the CBA is resolved. If they’re going to move him, then the time is before the draft. If they tag him and try to trade him next offseason who knows how much the uncertainty in 2021 will factor into his value. 1
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