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I wouldnt mind giving him 4 yrs 60 mill deal with 35 mill guaranteed. He can be a game changer. I think Colts and Jets might be the only teams willing to give him more than that guaranteed over 4 years.

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20 hours ago, Utah John said:

If the Bills could get him for $3M a year, he is powerful enough to do better for them than Shady, who was lost behind that pathetic O line last year.  

 

18 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

? So, um...

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21 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

 

LOL....he needs an agent.  Or someone to tell him to keep his mouth shut.  His delusional utterances are not going to help him.

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:huh:.......:w00t: He will NEVER get that on the open market. He'll be lucky if he gets $30,000,000 the first 2 years. 

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Eagles? Don’t see that one. I know cap space can be created but they are really tight -  can’t see them putting that much of it into a RB even if he can catch too. 

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Lol

 

I'll take a 4th round pick at RB instead

 

Putting huge $$ into a RB is a waste unless you can save him for the playoffs.

 

Otherwise they are too beat up by the time big games come around.

 

 

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3 hours ago, T master said:

It's all about the money to him nothing else matters he has no loyalty's to any one or any thing but a dollar i hope the Bills stay away from him or AB both are bad for football but both are what the new football is becoming which will ultimately make the game go in a different direction ...

It's about money for just about every player...

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It is all about the Benjamins.  Just saw the Nick Buoniconti show on HBO, and as much as I despise him as a human being, seeing what football and CTE did to him is sobering.  I don't blame Bell one bit for saving his body.  I don't think he'll get $50M over 2 years, but more power to him for trying.

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I have no issue that Bell is fighting for every dollar he can get.  I have no issue it led to him sitting out last season, although I do think it was a mistake as he lost a year of playing and income that will be hard to make up given the amount of money he missed out on.  I mean he only has a few years left to really make that money back, let alone exceed it.   

 

However, I think two things about this $50M over 2 years report:

  1. These kinds of stories are pretty unreliable.  Reporters have no accountability when reporting on rumors, so any sniff of a rumor they put out because it gets interest and views, and thats their core of their job. You cant prove or disprove rumors, so they are what they are.
  2. Regardless of the info above being true or not, its pretty obvious Bell is going to go in asking for as much as he can, even if he knows he won't get it.  Thats what negotiations are for.  His side will start very high, the other side will start lower than they know he will sign for.  Both know a deal will be done somewhere in between.  So Bell isnt going to walk in and demand the min he will sign for.  
  3. I do think its likely he is asking for a 2 year deal though so he can try and get one more payday on another 2 year deal just before he turns 30.  I mean thats about the only way he can ever have a shot of making back all the money he lost last year.  

Obviously, Bells best chance at a huge payday is to have more than one team aggressively pursuing him where he can leverage interest higher and higher.  Personally, I think he is going to land a 2 year deal around $12m with a big signing bonus.  Front runners to me would be Jets, Colts, or Raiders.  

 

However, Colts found a run game last year, they may not want to spend so big on Bell now, but they certainly can afford to if they want.  Raiders are so far off from contention that I doubt paying big money to a RB makes much difference, so not sure they will see the value of spending big on a RB the next 2 years.  Especially since they lost Mack already over money.

 

So I think Jets are most likely to pay up given they have a young QB in place where a weapon like Bell can really help a young QB both by taking pressure off in the run game and being a good receiving outlet.  Bills could be a dark horse here too given the hit won't be as bad cap wise if we cut Shady.  

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I think people thinking Bell wont get 10 mill per year are delusional. Besides being a RB, he also has outstanding ball skills as a WR. He had 80+ catches for 650+ yards the last time he played. That would easily have made him Bills top receiver in catches and yards. If Sammy got 16 mill per year, there is no way Bell makes 10 mill per year. He may not get Gurley money, but he will come close. Additionally, unlike Gurley, he has produced in the post-season at about 130 yds from scrimmage. This guy can be a game changer. An OC can get so creative with a guy like Bell in the backfield.

 

I expect him to get at least 30 mill guaranteed if his conditioning is good and he passes his physical.

 

 

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FWIW, this is what he turned down:

 

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/leveon-bell-reportedly-turned-down-a-monstrous-70-million-deal-from-the-steelers/

 

I doubt if his new contract will be significantly better than what he turned down in Pittsburgh. The were offering him 33 mill guaranteed and 14 mill per for 5 years. he wanted a minimum of 17 mill per. 

 

That is why I think something like 4 years 60 mill with 35+ mill guaranteed will be somewhat palatable to him and not unreasonable to the Bills (if they want Bell). 

 

There can also be some kind of injury guarantee (say an additional 7-8 mill) to make the contract more attractive.

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On 2/20/2019 at 2:25 PM, dneveu said:

 

So Gurley got 4 years 57.5 (around 14 per) with 45 guaranteed.  Bell's 2 years older and didn't play for a year.  Should be interesting.  

 

I'm thinking Jets...?

 

Yeah me too. I would be surprised if the Jets did Not go after him. 

 

I think they will make him a big offer.

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19 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

$3M a year?  There is about as much chance of that happening as me getting $14m a year to play RB for the Steelers.  

 

Bell will likely be get a double digit deal, I doubt its at the $14m mark but he will probably get between $10m and $12m per year.  

 

Case in point:  No one thought Sammy was worth more than $8m to $10m (most said under $10m) and he got $16m to put up 39 rec and 500 yards again.  

 

By the way, I did the math on HEALTHY Sammy the last 2 years, so only his real production on games he played. Over last 2 years on the two most explosive offenses in the NFL, Sammy played in 25 games.  And based on his per game average production during that 25 game span, this is 16 game projected production:

 

16 game season:  51 rec, 711 yards, 4 TD's.  

 

He got $16m per year for that and hasn't played in 16 games since a rookie in 2014 to boot.  For comparison, the guy who literally replaced in him LA for less money to play the exact same role put up 80 rec and 1200 yards which was more than double what Sammy did over 15 games the year before on the same team in the same role.  Yet someone still paid him $16m per year.  

 

Someone is going to pay for Bell who is a lot more productive than Sammy.  

In two of the games he played this year he either came out very early (first quarter; vs Denver; hamstring) or after one play (Rams; foot). 

 

In the 8 full games he played last season, he had 39 catches for 511 yards, which extrapolates to 78 catches for 1,022 yards. 

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10 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said:

 

Yeah me too. I would be surprised if the Jets did Not go after him. 

 

I think they will make him a big offer.

I don’t see the fit with Gase. Unless he abandons the Process mentality he had in Miami. He doesn’t like “me” guys.

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