Bing Bong Posted February 21, 2019 Posted February 21, 2019 (edited) I recall Brandon Lloyd caught 1,448 yards and 11 TDs for the Broncos from Orton in 2010. He looked like he turned the corner to be the next top NFL WR, lead the league in receiving yards, Sidney Rice going 1,312 yards and 8 TDs with Brett Favre for Vikings in 2009. And more notable, probably among the tops on this list: JOSH GORDON WENT 1,646 YARDS AND 9 TDs! All these guys looked amazing those years. I'm sure there's tons of examples of WRs, crazy how they can catch fire for one glorious season and show all the talent in the world but somehow lose their speed, chemistry, hands for the rest of their career. Obviously we know why Gordon had his case. Braylon Edwards for 1,289 and 16 TDs in 2007. I'm sure there's tons of these guys. Alfred Morris 1,613 yards rushing rookie year.. RG3 that same year as well. Gordon has to be among the tops of this list, for any position, though. Edited February 21, 2019 by BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P
Bing Bong Posted February 21, 2019 Posted February 21, 2019 (edited) 11 hours ago, Stank_Nasty said: levens each had 2 Dorsey Levens had such a good year in 1997. 1,435 yards rushing, 370 receiving.. not to mention he was instrumental in taking the Packers over the hump for their SB win. And his other 1000 yard season was pedestrian at 1,034. Next best rushing year? 566. I'll allow it since he was a monster in 1997 AND his play directly lead to the SB. But otherwise.. yeah not so great a list. I mean if we're taking Peyton Hillis with 1,177 yards in 2010.. and 587 in 2011. Difference in yards wasn't really that much better than Levens' 2 1000 yard seasons, and Levens had the much better year. Peyton had a.. pretty good year, nothing to write home about. But Levens' median is very very low. Peyton's is much closer to his one year hit. It WAS surprising though. Edited February 21, 2019 by BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P
Stank_Nasty Posted February 21, 2019 Posted February 21, 2019 1 minute ago, BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P said: Dorsey Levens had such a good year in 1997. 1,435 yards rushing, 370 receiving.. not to mention he was instrumental in taking the Packers over the hump for their SB win. And his other 1000 yard season was pedestrian at 1,034. Next best rushing year? 566. I'll allow it since he was a monster in 1997 AND his play directly lead to the SB. But otherwise.. yeah not so great a list. it was almost the exact opposite of a "one year wonder list"... heck.... one guy, jerry porter, never even had a year worth mentioning and almost all of the others were by definition the opposite of one year wonders. it was an impressively bad list for this topic. 1
Bing Bong Posted February 21, 2019 Posted February 21, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said: it was almost the exact opposite of a "one year wonder list"... heck.... one guy, jerry porter, never even had a year worth mentioning and almost all of the others were by definition the opposite of one year wonders. it was an impressively bad list for this topic. haha. Yes I saw that list and just thought. "oh yeah those are a bunch of good runningbacks! Who's Jerry Porter?" I think Levens' career is vastly overrated by many (I used to be one of them) because his year and SB was so good and imprinted on minds people don't realize he did very very little before and after. Packers OL in 97 was something else. The whole team top to bottom really was impressive. The world has to know the true career of Levens. Hit by the injury bug, depth chart woes, and happened to be an instrumental part of one of the greatest SB teams in history, with a fantastic SB performance to boot. Edited February 21, 2019 by BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P
Buffalo Junction Posted February 21, 2019 Posted February 21, 2019 8 minutes ago, BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P said: Dorsey Levens had such a good year in 1997. 1,435 yards rushing, 370 receiving.. not to mention he was instrumental in taking the Packers over the hump for their SB win. And his other 1000 yard season was pedestrian at 1,034. Next best rushing year? 566. I'll allow it since he was a monster in 1997 AND his play directly lead to the SB. But otherwise.. yeah not so great a list. Allowable, but Levens’ downfall was an injured knee. Plus, in his “other 1000 yard season” he also had 70 receptions for 570 yards for a total of about 1600 yards. As an aside, those Holmgren designed screens may be the best ever created. Heck, Andy Reid is still using them effectively.
Bing Bong Posted February 21, 2019 Posted February 21, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Buffalo Junction said: Allowable, but Levens’ downfall was an injured knee. Plus, in his “other 1000 yard season” he also had 70 receptions for 570 yards for a total of about 1600 yards. As an aside, those Holmgren designed screens may be the best ever created. Heck, Andy Reid is still using them effectively. yeah a lot of injuries, but apart from those 2 years he had nothing close. Median season is like.. 300 yards rushing. Levens was a great receiving back when he was getting touches in those 2 years. And if we're accepting Peyton Hillis' season.. The difference between Hillis and Levens' best "one year wonder" and second best season aren't far apart. Levens just had that good of a year in 97. Edited February 21, 2019 by BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P
Spiderweb Posted February 21, 2019 Posted February 21, 2019 On 2/19/2019 at 2:05 PM, Albany,n.y. said: Dennis Shaw He definitely came to my mind as well... His biggest problem was simple, he had next to zero arm strength.
Buffalo Junction Posted February 21, 2019 Posted February 21, 2019 On 2/20/2019 at 7:40 AM, Bill from NYC said: True, but he was an excellent player. I was lucky enough to see him play at RWS. He had very long arms and used them perfectly as leverage. Bryce was also a nasty player. I'm not so sure of how some of his hits would go over in todays NFL. In one game many, many years ago I saw the Bills sack Harbaugh 6 times. Bryce and Hansen were hitting him so hard I was afraid they were going to kill him and he kept getting up. Say what you want wrt Harbaugh but he is one of the toughest guys I ever saw in any sport. Others on this board were at that game. Paup was a damn good player. Only time I saw him live was when we were back in Wisconsin (whole family is packers fans) for a funeral in 93’. No sacks, but Paup basically shut down the edge for most of the game. People forget he could destroy a run game too. The highlight was Reggie White though. He single handily snuffed Elway's comback in the 4th with back to back sacks. 1
Bing Bong Posted February 21, 2019 Posted February 21, 2019 (edited) 20 hours ago, Chicken Boo said: Gailey was pretty open about wanting a "water bug" for his offense. He had a vision and knew exactly how to use him. I, like Gailey, love an all purpose RB. Just poor vision as a carrier unfortunately. Spiller could have had the career he was hyped to be if he had better football IQ and gaining easy yards that were available on plays. It's hard to see that really in college when they can miss the hole or the best spot to cut and still make up for it with freak athleticism for big plays. Like scouts evaluating Spiller, Reggie Bush and Trent Richardson in college. Edited February 21, 2019 by BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P
Buffalo Junction Posted February 21, 2019 Posted February 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P said: yeah a lot of injuries, but apart from those 2 years he had nothing close. Median season is like.. 300 yards rushing. Levens was a great receiving back when he was getting touches in those 2 years. And if we're taking Peyton Hillis' season.. The difference between Hillis and Levens' best "one year wonder" and second best season aren't far apart. Levens just had that good of a year in 97. I’m not arguing that. He spent the first part of his career backing up Bennett until the 96’ playoffs when Bennett got injured. Levens had 2 healthy seasons after that. Damn shame, but knee injuries in the 90’s were still a big deal. 1
Buffalo Junction Posted February 21, 2019 Posted February 21, 2019 Keep in mind though, that if you open the doors for 2 year wonders the list grows exponentially with guys like Ryan Grant (back to back 1200 yard seasons), Brandon Jacobs (b2b 1000 yards), etc. there are simply a ton of players that fit that mold because of injuries. 1
Bing Bong Posted February 21, 2019 Posted February 21, 2019 5 hours ago, Buffalo Junction said: Keep in mind though, that if you open the doors for 2 year wonders the list grows exponentially with guys like Ryan Grant (back to back 1200 yard seasons), Brandon Jacobs (b2b 1000 yards), etc. there are simply a ton of players that fit that mold because of injuries. I think the variance between the 2 years is far enough apart. Certainly not like those guys. But you're right. Dorsey Levens takes us down a slippery slope. He's definitely not the "best" one year wonder cause he had that darn 1000 yard season.. minimizing the wonder the one year. I still can't emphasize enough how Brandon Lloyd's season is getting overlooked. I'll bet that's among the highest if you compare his best season to any of his second best seasons: Games Receiving Rushing Total Yds Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS Tgt Rec Yds Y/R TD Lng R/G Y/G Ctch% Rush Yds TD Lng Y/A Y/G A/G Touch Y/Tch YScm RRTD Fmb AV 2003 22 SFO wr 85 16 1 30 14 212 15.1 2 44 0.9 13.3 46.7% 14 15.1 212 2 0 2 2004 23 SFO WR 85 13 13 89 43 565 13.1 6 52 3.3 43.5 48.3% 43 13.1 565 6 0 4 2005 24 SFO WR 85 16 15 109 48 733 15.3 5 89 3.0 45.8 44.0% 48 15.3 733 5 1 6 2006 25 WAS WR 85 15 12 57 23 365 15.9 0 52 1.5 24.3 40.4% 23 15.9 365 0 1 3 2007 26 WAS wr 85 8 1 11 2 14 7.0 0 9 0.3 1.8 18.2% 2 7.0 14 0 0 0 2008 27 CHI wr 80 11 5 50 26 364 14.0 2 32 2.4 33.1 52.0% 26 14.0 364 2 0 3 2009 28 DEN wr 84 2 1 18 8 117 14.6 0 44 4.0 58.5 44.4% 8 14.6 117 0 0 1 2010* 29 DEN WR 84 16 11 153 77 1448 18.8 11 71 4.8 90.5 50.3% 1 -18 0 -18 -18.0 -1.1 0.1 78 18.3 1430 11 0 12 2011 30 2TM 15 14 148 70 966 13.8 5 44 4.7 64.4 47.3% 70 13.8 966 5 1 5 DEN wr 84 4 4 31 19 283 14.9 0 44 4.8 70.8 61.3% 19 14.9 283 0 1 2 STL WR 83 11 10 117 51 683 13.4 5 37 4.6 62.1 43.6% 51 13.4 683 5 0 3 2012 31 NWE WR 85 16 15 131 74 911 12.3 4 53 4.6 56.9 56.5% 74 12.3 911 4 0 10 2013 Missed season - Out of NFL 2014 33 SFO wr 84 14 3 35 14 294 21.0 1 80 1.0 21.0 40.0% 14 21.0 294 1 0 A solid 500 yards ahead of 2011. Not to mention how obscure he was before then. It's how forgettable his career was that makes that year so crazy. And he looked more than capable of being among the best afterwards but never got around to it. 1
Buffalo Junction Posted February 21, 2019 Posted February 21, 2019 (edited) 26 minutes ago, BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P said: I think the variance between the 2 years is far enough apart. Certainly not like those guys. But you're right. Dorsey Levens takes us down a slippery slope. He's definitely not the "best" one year wonder cause he had that darn 1000 yard season.. minimizing the wonder the one year. I still can't emphasize enough how Brandon Lloyd's season is getting overlooked. I'll bet that's among the highest if you compare his best season to any of his second best seasons: Games Receiving Rushing Total Yds Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS Tgt Rec Yds Y/R TD Lng R/G Y/G Ctch% Rush Yds TD Lng Y/A Y/G A/G Touch Y/Tch YScm RRTD Fmb AV 2003 22 SFO wr 85 16 1 30 14 212 15.1 2 44 0.9 13.3 46.7% 14 15.1 212 2 0 2 2004 23 SFO WR 85 13 13 89 43 565 13.1 6 52 3.3 43.5 48.3% 43 13.1 565 6 0 4 2005 24 SFO WR 85 16 15 109 48 733 15.3 5 89 3.0 45.8 44.0% 48 15.3 733 5 1 6 2006 25 WAS WR 85 15 12 57 23 365 15.9 0 52 1.5 24.3 40.4% 23 15.9 365 0 1 3 2007 26 WAS wr 85 8 1 11 2 14 7.0 0 9 0.3 1.8 18.2% 2 7.0 14 0 0 0 2008 27 CHI wr 80 11 5 50 26 364 14.0 2 32 2.4 33.1 52.0% 26 14.0 364 2 0 3 2009 28 DEN wr 84 2 1 18 8 117 14.6 0 44 4.0 58.5 44.4% 8 14.6 117 0 0 1 2010* 29 DEN WR 84 16 11 153 77 1448 18.8 11 71 4.8 90.5 50.3% 1 -18 0 -18 -18.0 -1.1 0.1 78 18.3 1430 11 0 12 2011 30 2TM 15 14 148 70 966 13.8 5 44 4.7 64.4 47.3% 70 13.8 966 5 1 5 DEN wr 84 4 4 31 19 283 14.9 0 44 4.8 70.8 61.3% 19 14.9 283 0 1 2 STL WR 83 11 10 117 51 683 13.4 5 37 4.6 62.1 43.6% 51 13.4 683 5 0 3 2012 31 NWE WR 85 16 15 131 74 911 12.3 4 53 4.6 56.9 56.5% 74 12.3 911 4 0 10 2013 Missed season - Out of NFL 2014 33 SFO wr 84 14 3 35 14 294 21.0 1 80 1.0 21.0 40.0% 14 21.0 294 1 0 A solid 500 yards ahead of 2011. Not to mention how obscure he was before then. It's how forgettable his career was that makes that year so crazy. And he looked more than capable of being among the best afterwards but never got around to it. He definitely looked to be building up. Dude got there then... zilch. We should consider Eddie Royal too. He was in the same group with Jordie Nelson and DeSean Jackson his first year... then nothing but crickets. Went from 90 receptions to 30 while playing the same number of games. Edited February 21, 2019 by Buffalo Junction 1
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 21, 2019 Posted February 21, 2019 "El Presidente" Donohole's very own Mike Williams....a/k/a the "Crisco Kid"......would cause a grease fire in a tanning booth.....
Jay_Fixit Posted February 22, 2019 Posted February 22, 2019 (edited) On 2/20/2019 at 7:45 PM, stuvian said: Bengals WR Carl Pickens Seahawks RB Curt Warner Raiders WR Jerry Porter Packers RB Dorsey Levens Bucs RB James Wilder Eagles RB Duce Staley Saints RB Reuben Mayes Falcons RB Michael Turner Oilers RB Mike Rozier I don’t think you know what one year wonder means. Pickens? 540 Career receptions. 99 and 100 catch seasons. Warner? 4x 1000 yard seasons. 56 career TD. One of the most beloved Seahawks players ever. Turner? 3x 1000 yard seasons. 7300 career yards. 66 TD. Staley? 3x 1000 yard seasons. Edited February 22, 2019 by Jay_Fixit
corta765 Posted February 22, 2019 Posted February 22, 2019 On 2/20/2019 at 8:11 AM, Stank_Nasty said: Also those spiller highlights in the front page are insane. I guess had forgotten his 2012 year. I remembered it being very good but it was just absurd! I just can’t get my head around how somebody could make professionals look so silly for one whole season like that and then never really make any sort of impact on a team again. It’s just crazy. It is why going into 2013/2014 especially on paper I remember a lot of people being excited about the Bills offense with CJ, Stevie, Sammy, R. Woods, Goodwin, & Freddie. Then in reality half of them got injured and Stevie got cut.
Chandler#81 Posted February 22, 2019 Posted February 22, 2019 On 2/21/2019 at 10:56 AM, Spiderweb said: He definitely came to my mind as well... His biggest problem was simple, he had next to zero arm strength. That’s the way history has rewritten it, but his overt racism is what led Buffalo to get rid of him. This, and the rookie from Arkansas didn’t play too poorly..
Buffalo Barbarian Posted February 24, 2019 Posted February 24, 2019 On 2/19/2019 at 1:15 PM, Canadian Bills Fan said: A guy who put up HOF worthy numbers but didn't do anything after that. I say Barnidge never heard of him. I'd say RG3
Buffalo Barbarian Posted February 24, 2019 Posted February 24, 2019 On 2/19/2019 at 1:52 PM, John from Riverside said: Bryce Paup Not true, Paup had a great career in Green Bay and Buffalo. The groin injury and mental burn out got to him in the end.
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