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  On 4/5/2019 at 9:10 PM, Chef Jim said:

 

How much will this civil trial cost?  Probably triple the cost of the investigation.  Just ***** let it go.  

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How much will it cost the city? Very little. The city attorneys are getting paid either way.

  On 4/5/2019 at 9:06 PM, reddogblitz said:

 

If the civil trial finds him guilty or whatever and rewards damages to the city I suppose that's OK I guess.

 

I agree with the Chef.  Slippery slope.  I could see this morphing into the day when on my way home from work I think I see a crime happen.  I report it. It turns out to be false.  A bureaucrat decides it was a hoax and sends me a bill for $40,000.

 

These kinds of things even though they feel good at the time often come back to bite one in the buttox later.

 

Serious question: Are you aware of any other case where a person falsely accused a crime and was required to pay for the police investigation?

 

Again, I think what Jussie allegedly did is abhorrent. I want to prosecute him to the full extent of the law.  Not make up new laws.  Foxx should be investigated and prosecuted if wrong doing can be proved.

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Can I think of cases where someone was accused of a crime and had to pay? What?

 

This has nothing to do with whether he was accused of a crime (which was related to FALSELY REPORTING A CRIME), and everything to do with him allegedly falsely reporting an attack, then lying to investigators on numerous occasions to keep the hoax going.

 

Honestly, where is the disconnect? This is not complicated to understand. He falsely reported a crime that he invented. He perpetrated a hoax. He wasted hundreds of man-hours of police time. For a hoax. He wasted taxpayer money running the cops in circles to investigate a crime he invented. As a hoax.

 

These are not arcane concepts.

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  On 4/5/2019 at 9:55 PM, Koko78 said:

 

How much will it cost the city? Very little. The city attorneys are getting paid either way.

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they are huge on rigging budgets and skewing results on convictions (The Wire didn't exaggerate all that much)

 

it's not worth the precious city resources to continue with this

 

 

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  On 4/5/2019 at 9:55 PM, Koko78 said:

This has nothing to do with whether he was accused of a crime (which was related to FALSELY REPORTING A CRIME), and everything to do with him allegedly falsely reporting an attack, then lying to investigators on numerous occasions to keep the hoax going. 

 

Honestly, where is the disconnect? This is not complicated to understand. He falsely reported a crime that he invented. He perpetrated a hoax. He wasted hundreds of man-hours of police time. For a hoax. He wasted taxpayer money running the cops in circles to investigate a crime he invented. As a hoax.

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OK, Third time.

 

Serious question.  Are you aware of any other case in US history where a person made false accusations and lied to the police and then had to pay for the police investigation?

 

Actually he was accused of 16 crimes but they were not prosecuted (which should be investigated btw).  It's also a crime to lie to the police.

 

Third time too.  What he did was super lame and destructive and he should be hung by his toe nails in the town square for 2 weeks, but that's not how our justice system works.

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  On 4/5/2019 at 10:04 PM, reddogblitz said:

 

OK, Third time.

 

Serious question.  Are you aware of any other case in US history where a person made false accusations and lied to the police and then had to pay for the police investigation?

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YES. I SPECIFICALLY STATED THAT THIS IS NOT UNCOMMON.

 

  On 4/5/2019 at 8:16 PM, Koko78 said:

 

Seeking reimbursement is not really that uncommon a thing to do for local governments after someone reports a hoax.

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Pay ***** attention.

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  On 4/5/2019 at 9:55 PM, Koko78 said:

 

How much will it cost the city? Very little. The city attorneys are getting paid either way.

 

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So you really think this is the best use of the cities resources?  I would suggest they use their time to investigate how these charges came to be dropped and who was involved and if any money changed hands.  Going after Jussie is just petty IMO. 

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  On 4/5/2019 at 10:09 PM, Chef Jim said:

 

So you really think this is the best use of the cities resources?  I would suggest they use their time to investigate how these charges came to be dropped and who was involved and if any money changed hands.  Going after Jussie is just petty IMO. 

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the city is under national mockery for ineptitude in stopping frequent wanton murder in a small sector

 

 

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  On 4/5/2019 at 10:12 PM, Koko78 said:

 

Where did I ever say that?

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I never accused you of saying it.  I'm asking if you think it's a good use of the cities resources?  Because you're sure fighting for it here. 

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  On 4/7/2019 at 11:46 PM, LABillzFan said:

You'll never guess why people are criticizing Kim foxx for dropping charges on Smollett.

 

Oh, wait.

 

Yes you will.

 

 

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Actually, the Smollette case simply reinforces the notion that racism is on the run in the USA.  I'd argue if his name was Jussie Fitzgerald Shriver-Kennedy, and her name was Theodore Wadsworth Smitherton we would have seen precisely the same outcome.  Regular shmoes like the rest of us would have shaken our heads at the two-tier justice system, of powerful people behind the scenes pulling strings to make problems disappear, and they would have outlandishly claimed that this was the justice system everyone got. 

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  On 4/8/2019 at 12:38 AM, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Actually, the Smollette case simply reinforces the notion that racism is on the run in the USA.  I'd argue if his name was Jussie Fitzgerald Shriver-Kennedy, and her name was Theodore Wadsworth Smitherton we would have seen precisely the same outcome.  Regular shmoes like the rest of us would have shaken our heads at the two-tier justice system, of powerful people behind the scenes pulling strings to make problems disappear, and they would have outlandishly claimed that this was the justice system everyone got. 

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Exactly. The Smollet case, like the OJ case proves the system works.   A rich black man can get off just like a rich white man.

 

But the Smollet case even goes a step further. It verifies that a rich/famous person can call on rich powerful friends to work the good ole boy network to get off. Only in this case instead of it being white good ole boys, they was all minority women pulling the strings.    Progress.

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  On 4/8/2019 at 6:08 PM, reddogblitz said:

 

Exactly. The Smollet case, like the OJ case proves the system works.   A rich black man can get off just like a rich white man.

 

But the Smollet case even goes a step further. It verifies that a rich/famous person can call on rich powerful friends to work the good ole boy network to get off. Only in this case instead of it being white good ole boys, they was all minority women pulling the strings.    Progress.

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a clown fool stunt is a little less serious than trying to cut off two people's heads in a jealous rage.

 

 

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