The "National Emergency" Thread

[Taro T]

49 minutes ago, Foxx said:

i think it goes much deeper than just Trump. as others have opined, Trump may have been selected to take the trash out and he is just the pinnacle that you/we see. there are many aspects to his presidency where it seems that events are more than just mere coincidence. which in turn would suggest that there is more in play than meets the eye.

 

i am a firm believer that we are all part a larger consciousness and that that larger consciousness leaks out through all of us. there is no other way to explain some of the madness that we currently seeing exposed on the grand scale. thanks in large part to the internet, there is a convergence of the waking mind happening, throughout all of mankind.

 

we are experiencing a quickening that is happening in that larger consciousness and we are fast approaching a correction of sorts.

 

Would agree with the bolded.  And agree that what's going on goes beyond Trump.  

 

Hoping that he is playing 4D chess.  Just having a hard time reconciling/deciding how much he is & how much of it is hopeful thinking.  Especially when, for something like reining in executive emergency powers, to start there needs to be good legislation emanating from a chamber led by a woman that doesn't realize natural gas is a fossil fuel.

[Foxx]

Pentagon Chief Likely to Approve Border Wall Funding Request, Defense Official Says

[Buffalo_Gal]

5 hours ago, Taro T said:

 

It does seem that way as that's the one way that this National Emergency declaration doesn't come across as full out foolish.  There already are monies available to tap into (that apparently are already being tapped into) for the wall & this sets a bad precedent for future Presidents to simply ignore Congress.  But if this spurs Congress to rewrite some laws to put actual limits on the ability they've given Presidents to declare emergencies it's a step back towards rebalancing the powers of the legislative & executive branches; that would be a very good thing.  And an actual win.

 

Still not sold that 45 is THAT good at 4D chess.

We'll see. To me, it has been fairly apparent that President Trump wants Congress to do its damn job!!  If he has to pull an #orangemanbad to get them to do it, and people call that 4D chess, so be it. 

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Q-baby!]

Just checking in! Are guys ok? The rest of the world is really concerned. 

[Taro T]

1 hour ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

We'll see. To me, it has been fairly apparent that President Trump wants Congress to do its damn job!!  If he has to pull an #orangemanbad to get them to do it, and people call that 4D chess, so be it. 

 

Congress hasn't done its job in at least 12 years.  Would agree he'd like them to do it, don't expect them to though.

[row_33]

16 minutes ago, Taro T said:

 

Congress hasn't done its job in at least 12 years.  Would agree he'd like them to do it, don't expect them to though.

 

You mean 212 years

[#34fan]

What a waste... All this idiot had to do was enforce existing laws... He's spending 8 Billion on a wall that's going to get customized by the cartels and Traffickers.

[Koko78]

8 minutes ago, #34fan said:

What a waste... All this idiot had to do was enforce existing laws... He's spending 8 Billion on a wall that's going to get customized by the cartels and Traffickers.

 

Of course, you clearly know better than the people who are responsible for border security.

[#34fan]

7 minutes ago, Koko78 said:

 

Of course, you clearly know better than the people who are responsible for border security.

 

That's what they do down here, man....  Tunnels, hydaraulics, walkover bridges,  that thing is going to get tricked out.

 

 

 

[Koko78]

1 minute ago, #34fan said:

 

That's what they do down here, man....  Tunnels, hydaraulics, walkover bridges,  that thing is going to get tricked out.

 

 

 

 

So why would the cartels need all that? The current talking point is that drugs only come through ports of entry. There's even statistics!

[#34fan]

7 minutes ago, Koko78 said:

 

So why would the cartels need all that? The current talking point is that drugs only come through ports of entry. There's even statistics!

 

Dope isn't the only commodity being trafficked... There's people.. guns.. Money... There's more than one reason why a wall won't work.

[TakeYouToTasker]

@#34fan

 

I assume you’re pro human slavery of brown people then?

[Q-baby!]

36 minutes ago, Koko78 said:

 

So why would the cartels need all that? The current talking point is that drugs only come through ports of entry. There's even statistics!

 Because they haven’t figured out how to transport multiple shipping containers across the desert on a daily basis, but yeah, continue to fall for the BS. 

Edited February 18, 2019 by BigMcD

[Paulus]

50 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said:

@#34fan

 

I assume you’re pro human slavery of brown people then?

As long as they vote Democrat, then yes. They have been that way since the beginning.

3 hours ago, row_33 said:

 

You mean 212 years

It was kind of made to function that way.

[Hedge]

13 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Since this got lost after the latest attempt to slide and divide (while avoiding answering questions directly - as per usual), it's worth looking at what Trump is saying here. 

 

 

That's quite the statement!

In summary, and I am not a lawyer, it seems to be a thanks for the money for the wall and Double Dumb Ass Pork Chop on You to most of the rest of the legislation.

 

Aside from the opening sentence, there are 8 paragraphs and each one has at least at least 1 knock out punch to the provisions of the “Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2019”.

 

Paragraph #2: "I will treat these, and similar provisions, consistent with the President’s constitutional authority as Commander in Chief."

 

Paragraph #3: "My Administration will treat each of these provisions consistent with the President’s constitutional authorities with respect to foreign relations."

 

Paragraph #4: "I will treat this provision consistent with the President’s constitutional responsibility to faithfully execute the laws of the United States."

 

Paragraph #5: "Legislation that significantly impedes the President’s ability to supervise the executive branch or obtain the assistance of aides in this function violates the separation of powers by undermining the President’s ability to fulfill his constitutional responsibilities, including the responsibility to faithfully execute the laws of the United States.  My Administration will, therefore, construe these restrictions in Division C, title II consistent with these Presidential duties."

 

Paragraph #6: "I will treat these provisions in a manner consistent with the President’s constitutional authority to withhold information that could impair foreign relations, national security, the deliberative processes of the executive branch, or the performance of the President’s constitutional duties"

 

Paragraph #7: "I will construe these, and similar provisions, consistent with my authority to control the dissemination of information protected by executive privilege."

 

Paragraph #8: "Because the Constitution gives the President the authority to recommend “such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient”, my Administration will continue the practice of treating provisions like these as advisory and non-binding."

 

Paragraph #9: "These are impermissible forms of congressional aggrandizement in the execution of the laws other than by the enactment of statutes."

[#34fan]

2 hours ago, TakeYouToTasker said:

@#34fan

 

I assume you’re pro human slavery of brown people then?

 

Tasky, I know I say this to you alot, but what the f___ are you talking about, man?

 

The US-MEX border is an economic engine of illegal activity... Lives depend on these cartels being able to get their product to market... You really think a little bit of concrete and rebar is going to stop that?

 

I wouldn't be surprised if some of the contractors building the wall are bankrolled by the cartel....  Put 1/4 of that 8 Billion towards surveillance, detection, and enforcement and you'd have a far better bead on slowing down the traffickers.

 

 

 

 

[Deranged Rhino]

Surveillance and detection are included. But, "muh talking points"

 

Not a single original thought. Just regurgitating partisan talking points because that's all 34 is capable of. 

[DC Tom]

11 hours ago, #34fan said:

What a waste... All this idiot had to do was enforce existing laws... 

 

[B-Man]

BUT THE NARRATIVE: 

 

Obama’s Border Patrol Chief Says Trump Isn’t Making Up Border Emergency.

 

 

 

 

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