PromoTheRobot Posted February 15, 2019 Posted February 15, 2019 (edited) On 2/15/2019 at 7:54 PM, CuddyDark said: They were going to lose in court. Collusion is a crime. It's highly litigated in the business world. Expand EXACTLY!! The NFL wouldn't settle this fast unless they knew they would likely lose. Edited February 15, 2019 by PromoTheRobot
MJS Posted February 15, 2019 Posted February 15, 2019 On 2/15/2019 at 4:58 PM, Alphadawg7 said: Ok, let’s calm down a bit on connecting dots that likely aren’t there. Kapernick has NOT declined a job in the NFL. The article says he hopes to play again in the NFL. Just because someone doesn’t want to play for the AAF unless heavily incentivized does not mean he has some min salary requirement to take an NFL job. And there is no evidence at all that he really declined AAF unless paid $20m, just a random report where we see random reports every day in all sports that have little substance to them. But, Kap is gonna continue to unfairly get villafied because people want to find more reasons to never like him. Kap is getting black balled, it’s not even up for debate. He is better than at least 2/3rds the QBs on NFL rosters right now, but can’t even get a workout and it has nothing to do with salary requirements. Expand Everything you are claiming is specualtion as well. 1
Misterbluesky Posted February 15, 2019 Posted February 15, 2019 On 2/15/2019 at 3:03 AM, Golden Goat said: As a Mets fan, I beg him to reconsider! Expand Exactly...it won't take long before the fans in Syracuse realize that.The organization let Borenstien walk to the Cubs farm system and they promote glamour boy ..it's just another "Johnny football" story. 1
klos63 Posted February 15, 2019 Posted February 15, 2019 On 2/15/2019 at 6:09 PM, thebandit27 said: Might that have something to do with the exposure and endorsements he's gotten with his non-football endeavors? And you're missing the point. It's pretty simple: if Kaep wanted back on the NFL field, he'd do whatever it takes. You can bet money that there will be a few players that show well in the AAF and get signed by NFL teams, even to practice squads. Point being that he had an avenue to get back on the football field, but he wants to do it on his terms. Does that smack of a guy that's 100% focused on football to you? Expand Of course his exposure has a lot to do with his name recognition, but it's because or it makes him the face of this controversy. And I don't necessarily think playing in the AAF would be the best path for him, but I can be wrong. He may end up playing with ducasse as his guard... what are the chances of him having any success then?
Bing Bong Posted February 15, 2019 Posted February 15, 2019 On 2/15/2019 at 7:34 PM, BringBackOrton said: Haha he settled! That’s so rich. Expand he's the plaintiff lol he wants to settle.
YoloinOhio Posted February 15, 2019 Author Posted February 15, 2019 On 2/15/2019 at 7:55 PM, PromoTheRobot said: EXACTLY!! The NFL wouldn't settle this fast unless they knew they would likely lose. Expand Probably uncovered a lot of emails and stuff they don’t want public
Bray Wyatt Posted February 15, 2019 Posted February 15, 2019 On 2/15/2019 at 8:51 PM, YoloinOhio said: Probably uncovered a lot of emails and stuff they don’t want public Expand Could be, but with the final decision coming from an arbitrator in less than a month, and you got the league by the balls so to speak, why settle?
Bing Bong Posted February 15, 2019 Posted February 15, 2019 On 2/15/2019 at 8:53 PM, Bray Wyatt said: Could be, but with the final decision coming from an arbitrator in less than a month, and you got the league by the balls so to speak, why settle? Expand Neither side wants to leave it to the arbitrator.. it's like playing chicken. Nobody wants to take it to arbitration but they're going to make each other sweat like they will up to the last possible moment. Very rarely does anybody actually think they got the other party by the balls. You settle or risk whatever small chance you think you might have at losing... a lot.
Bray Wyatt Posted February 15, 2019 Posted February 15, 2019 On 2/15/2019 at 9:00 PM, BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P said: Neither side wants to leave it to the arbitrator.. it's like playing chicken. Nobody wants to take it to arbitration but they're going to make each other sweat like they will up to the last possible moment. Very rarely does anybody actually think they got the other party by the balls. You settle or risk whatever small chance you think you might have at losing... a lot. Expand I get all of that, just making a point to those that think Kaep is a clear winner here. I dont think thats necessarily the case. He may get money, but in this instance the NFL knows how much it hurts (I am sure when this started they had a figure) and they get to keep it all confidential.
Chandler#81 Posted February 15, 2019 Posted February 15, 2019 On 2/15/2019 at 7:57 PM, MJS said: Everything you are claiming is specualtion as well. Expand ‘Zactly. Where, in all this foolish hoopla, will you find he simply isn’t very good? Once he was figured out defensively, he failed miserably as he couldn’t expand his game. The opposite hoopla follows Tebow. He’s loved, but he isn’t good enough.
Bing Bong Posted February 15, 2019 Posted February 15, 2019 On 2/15/2019 at 9:02 PM, Bray Wyatt said: I get all of that, just making a point to those that think Kaep is a clear winner here. I dont think thats necessarily the case. He may get money, but in this instance the NFL knows how much it hurts (I am sure when this started they had a figure) and they get to keep it all confidential. Expand NFL had a lot more to lose so this was the likely outcome. The amount of money is really what we need to determine the winner haha but FWIW Mike Freeman of Bleacher Report has heard "speculation" that Kaepernick's settlement is between $60-80M $$$$$$ That's a win for Kaep if true... good god. I should move to the other thread with this I suppose.
Dave Allen Posted February 15, 2019 Posted February 15, 2019 On 2/15/2019 at 2:57 AM, YoloinOhio said: http://www.espn.com/espn/story/_/id/25999702/alliance-american-football-tried-wooing-qb-colin-kaepernick Tebow declined and said he’s sticking with baseball Expand This doesn't pass the smell test for me. Kap may have rejected the contract, but a $20 mil demand is not believable given the standard wage scale firmly in place. To print this without some kind of confirmation, or even a second source, is irresponsible.
Starr Almighty Posted February 15, 2019 Posted February 15, 2019 So Kap wants to sign a 20M 20 year contract right?
Golden Goat Posted February 15, 2019 Posted February 15, 2019 On 2/15/2019 at 7:59 PM, Misterbluesky said: Exactly...it won't take long before the fans in Syracuse realize that.The organization let Borenstien walk to the Cubs farm system and they promote glamour boy ..it's just another "Johnny football" story. Expand ... minus the sex, drugs and alcohol. ? But hey, at least he'll go out with a bang.
Kelly the Dog Posted February 15, 2019 Posted February 15, 2019 In lieu of the estimates of $60-80m that Kaep just got in settling the case against the NFL, it's pretty brilliant of him to be asking for $20m a season to the AAF. He can then argue if no one pays him that he could have signed for $15m, like he was making in the NFL and then get the kind of settlement he did. If some idiot agrees to pay him that, he has even more ammo against the NFL. I guarantee that was part of his representatives equation, and it was really shrewd.
YoloinOhio Posted February 15, 2019 Author Posted February 15, 2019 (edited) On 2/15/2019 at 9:15 PM, Dave Allen said: This doesn't pass the smell test for me. Kap may have rejected the contract, but a $20 mil demand is not believable given the standard wage scale firmly in place. To print this without some kind of confirmation, or even a second source, is irresponsible. Expand FWIW, as Wawrow often points out, the AP is required to have more than one source before reporting anything. Barry Wilner of the AP reported it. Edited February 15, 2019 by YoloinOhio 1
Kelly the Dog Posted February 15, 2019 Posted February 15, 2019 On 2/15/2019 at 11:34 PM, YoloinOhio said: FWIW, as Wawrow often points out, the AP is required to have more than one source before reporting anything. Barry Wilner of the AP reported it. Expand Yep. That is why before every time I call jw a weasel, I first look for another person who agrees that he is a weasel, which doesn't take long. jw 1
BringBackOrton Posted February 15, 2019 Posted February 15, 2019 On 2/15/2019 at 8:51 PM, BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P said: he's the plaintiff lol he wants to settle. Expand If he's trying to cash out, sure. If he's trying to serve social justice by proving the NFL is corrupt, NOPE.
Kelly the Dog Posted February 15, 2019 Posted February 15, 2019 On 2/15/2019 at 11:56 PM, BringBackOrton said: If he's trying to cash out, sure. If he's trying to serve social justice by proving the NFL is corrupt, NOPE. Expand The more money he settles for, the much stronger his case is for proving that the NFL is corrupt, which surely serves social justice.
BringBackOrton Posted February 16, 2019 Posted February 16, 2019 (edited) On 2/15/2019 at 11:59 PM, Kelly the Dog said: The more money he settles for, the much stronger his case is for proving that the NFL is corrupt, which surely serves social justice. Expand How much money did he settle for, fella? He proved nothing. That's the point. Kaep snaked it as a crappy QB and got a nice chunk of change for himself. Edited February 16, 2019 by BringBackOrton
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