TheBeaneBandit Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 12 hours ago, JaCrispy said: I think I might be leaning towards Risner before Hockenson...but it is still early I love Risners attitude and approach, but the truth is he is a late 1st early 2nd round talent.
Dkollidas Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 I would like it. He could be Allen’s Greg Olsen. I wonder if they wouldn’t go after the more athletic Fant, but I think they’d prefer a guy like Hockenson. Could see them trying to move down in order to add some picks in order to do so as well.
MrEpsYtown Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 9 hours ago, thenorthremembers said: Just watched three games on Hockenson and to be honest I am a little surprised by all the Gronk and Kelce comparisons going on. He is definitely willing to do it all. But aside from having really good hands he doesnt stand out as an elite top ten talent. He is a good blocker, but he is also streaky at times, especially in the Penn State and Mississippi State games I watched (that Mississippi State defense was fast and nasty). He has some size but wouldnt say he plays big, in fact he comes across as a smaller H-Back despite being 6'5. I will be curious about the speed but he doesnt look like a 4.4 or 4.5 guy on film. I also didnt see crisp route running. I saw a guy who would sneak off an initial block and get wide open rather than getting open using route running skills. Three games doesnt tell the entire story, but I would be against the Bills taking him in the top ten. I think there are a lot of fair points here. As you alluded to, I think a lot is going to come down to his combine workout. I mean if he runs a 4.81, and measured 6-3, he won't be a top ten pick, but if he blows it up, or at least puts up respectable numbers, I think you are getting a pretty special guy. I am very interested in how he measures, height, weight, wing span, hands, things of that nature. I don't want an H back. We also have to keep in mind that the guy is a redshirt sophomore, so there is a still a lot of growth to be had. 1
FeelingOnYouboty Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 Measured in nicely today at the combine 6-4 6/8 and 251 pounds. I thought he was coming in at 6'3. Positional value matters and he's not explosive any way but he's just so good and is a devastating blocker as well. Definitely in play at #9 along with Jonah Williams, Ed Oliver and D.K. Metcalf.
whatdrought Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 Trade back to 15 so the skins can get a QB, then take this guy. Big weopon foe allen who also makes the run game better from day one.
MrEpsYtown Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 1 hour ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: Measured in nicely today at the combine 6-4 6/8 and 251 pounds. I thought he was coming in at 6'3. Positional value matters and he's not explosive any way but he's just so good and is a devastating blocker as well. Definitely in play at #9 along with Jonah Williams, Ed Oliver and D.K. Metcalf. That 6-4 kind of bothers me. It's not a big deal as we are talking fractions of an inch, but I'm a big measurements guy and not sure I love that. Eager to see how he runs.
FeelingOnYouboty Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 16 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: That 6-4 kind of bothers me. It's not a big deal as we are talking fractions of an inch, but I'm a big measurements guy and not sure I love that. Eager to see how he runs. He's practically 6'5 lol 1
Logic Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 It's been mentioned already in this thread, I think, but Hockenson's blocking ability on day 1 makes him a high floor player that can contribute immediately. Even if the receiving side of his game takes a couple years to get cooking (which I'm not necessarily convinced it will, any way), his immediate contributions in the blocking game would be a great boon to the Bills offense. 3
racketmaster Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 His height is almost 6'5 and weight is good at 251. His hand size is average and arm length is a little shorter than I would like but still longer than Ertz measured in at. No red flags from the measurements so interested to see how he tests out athletically on Saturday.
MrEpsYtown Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 3 hours ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: He's practically 6'5 lol I know. It's dumb, but it's one of those things that just bothers me. I'm glad I am not a scout. 1
FeelingOnYouboty Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 1 hour ago, MrEpsYtown said: I know. It's dumb, but it's one of those things that just bothers me. I'm glad I am not a scout. It's funny because this sorta thing used to bother me a lot. I think I got over the fraction stuff sometime last year LOL!
MrEpsYtown Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: It's funny because this sorta thing used to bother me a lot. I think I got over the fraction stuff sometime last year LOL! I need to do the same thing! lol
FeelingOnYouboty Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 13 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: I need to do the same thing! lol I didn't know I'd ever get here so I believe in you lol 1
gonzo1105 Posted March 1, 2019 Author Posted March 1, 2019 When people watch Hockensons tape you have to remember the guy is 21 years old. He's still young. I went back and watched tape of Travis Kelce at Cincinnati and he was a lumberer he didn't look like a freak athlete either. I will say Kelce did look a hell of a lot more filled out in the upper body in college. Its very hard to compare Hockenson to guys like him and Gronk and Ertz who have filled out their bodies and have been in the league awhile.
WideNine Posted March 1, 2019 Posted March 1, 2019 7 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said: I know. It's dumb, but it's one of those things that just bothers me. I'm glad I am not a scout. The average across the league is 6' 5" so he is 2 "8ths" from being right in the sweet spot. For a frame of reference out of the 21 TE's at the combine Hockenson is in the top 5 in height. He is taller than Fant, and Bama's Irv Smith Jr is the shortest at 6'2" and 3/8. The other TE I like is Josh Oliver he came in at 6'4" and change, but had the largest hands measured 10.75. 1
TPS Posted March 1, 2019 Posted March 1, 2019 I wouldn't be disappointed if this happened: Mock Draft R1 Hockeson R2 Little R3 whathisname-Arcega
CEN-CAL17 Posted March 1, 2019 Posted March 1, 2019 1 hour ago, TPS said: I wouldn't be disappointed if this happened: Mock Draft R1 Hockeson R2 Little R3 whathisname-Arcega Just call him JAWS... I didn’t make this up it a name I’ve heard thrown around JJ Arcega-Whiteside 1 hour ago, TPS said: I wouldn't be disappointed if this happened: Mock Draft R1 Hockeson R2 Little R3 whathisname-Arcega I see a trade back into the late first Hockenson Bradbury? Ford? Risner?
billspro Posted March 2, 2019 Posted March 2, 2019 Disappointing 40 time for him. Probably drops him out of the top 15.
PetermansRedemption Posted March 2, 2019 Posted March 2, 2019 Still want him with that 40 time. Rare combination of a guy who can block, run a good route, and catch anything. Great safety outlet for Allen for years to come.
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