MrEpsYtown Posted February 12, 2019 Posted February 12, 2019 On 2/12/2019 at 7:10 PM, N.Y. Orangeman said: Dawkins-Teller/Draft Pick-New Center-Long-New Tackle Getting better... Expand I feel that if you find a way to get Morse and Daryl Williams the unit would be improved immensely. Then you can draft depth and competition for Teller. 1
BarleyNY Posted February 12, 2019 Posted February 12, 2019 On 2/12/2019 at 7:09 PM, LABILLBACKER said: Very odd?? Why sign a guy for 3 years who basically has identical pff ratings as Groy. Groy is #36, Long #37. Expand Might just be to lock him up for a bit if he returns to form. If they didn’t give him much in the way of a signing bonus or guaranteed money then the three years are not a problem if they cut him. 1
Patriot Killa Posted February 12, 2019 Posted February 12, 2019 I feel like Elgton Jenkins from MS State is going to be an animal. Probably better off drafting him in the early second.
CaptnCoke11 Posted February 12, 2019 Posted February 12, 2019 On 2/12/2019 at 7:08 PM, The Jokeman said: Remember the name LaAdrian Waddle. Expand I wouldn’t get your hopes up
YoloinOhio Posted February 12, 2019 Posted February 12, 2019 On 2/12/2019 at 7:09 PM, LABILLBACKER said: Very odd?? Why sign a guy for 3 years who basically has identical pff ratings as Groy. Groy is #36, Long #37. Expand Pro scouts don’t make personnel decisions using PFF as the main criteria 3 1 3
JaCrispy Posted February 12, 2019 Posted February 12, 2019 On 2/12/2019 at 5:31 PM, ducej11 said: From my buddy who is a Jets fan... "When the Jets got him, my friend who is a Redskins fan told me I would hate him more and more every week. He wasn't wrong. He was the first guy I wanted cut after the season ended." Expand So, you’re sayin’ there’s a chance.?
The Jokeman Posted February 12, 2019 Posted February 12, 2019 On 2/12/2019 at 7:14 PM, CaptnCoke11 said: I wouldn’t get your hopes up Expand As pointed out elsewhere, he has ties to DaBoll and Johnson. He started at RT for the Lions as was okay. At least he'd be good depth.
wppete Posted February 12, 2019 Posted February 12, 2019 On 2/12/2019 at 7:10 PM, N.Y. Orangeman said: Dawkins-Teller/Draft Pick-New Center-Long-New Tackle Getting better... Expand Not really. ? 1
junior Posted February 12, 2019 Posted February 12, 2019 On 2/12/2019 at 7:16 PM, The Jokeman said: As pointed out elsewhere, he has ties to DaBoll and Johnson. He started at RT for the Lions as was okay. At least he'd be good depth. Expand I'm not familiar - do you know what type of blocking scheme Johnson uses?
Putin Posted February 12, 2019 Posted February 12, 2019 On 2/12/2019 at 5:32 PM, JayBaller10 said: For what it’s worth, he was graded as “below average” by PFF. The #37 center. https://www.profootballfocus.com/nfl/players/spencer-long/8713 Expand Allen must be thrilled!!
Foxx Posted February 12, 2019 Posted February 12, 2019 On 2/12/2019 at 5:33 PM, YoloinOhio said: He plays LG too. May be where he lands. Expand i am hoping that is where Dawkins lands.
YoloinOhio Posted February 12, 2019 Posted February 12, 2019 (edited) On 2/12/2019 at 7:24 PM, Foxx said: i am hoping that is where Dawkins lands. Expand I’m hoping Dawkins stays at LT and has a quality LG next to him like he did his rookie year. No fault of anyone but Richie, but imo losing RI next to him had a big impact on Dawkins play year 2. Edited February 12, 2019 by YoloinOhio 2
lacoy38 Posted February 12, 2019 Posted February 12, 2019 Think this is more of a Groy replacement as an interior swing man. Think they still go after Paradis or Morse or draft someone day 2.
Logic Posted February 12, 2019 Posted February 12, 2019 I may be in the minority, but I think his pay rate indicates that he IS being looked at as a probable starter. I also think the fact that the Bills list him as a C/G and not just as a G means that they think he has a shot to win the starting center job. Recall Beane's recent comment about "sleeping better at night" if you have a veteran C. For those counting on the Bills ALSO getting Paradis or Morse: with the signing of Long, I sincerely doubt that's gonna happen.
BillsFan4 Posted February 12, 2019 Posted February 12, 2019 On 2/12/2019 at 6:13 PM, YoloinOhio said: Expand He was also pretty good in 2016. He was ranked #9 in pass protection by PFF, and finished with an overall rank of 29 out of 72 ranked centers. The main thing that worries me about long are his run blocking grades. It looks like he’s been pretty good in pass protection for most of his career.
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted February 12, 2019 Posted February 12, 2019 Has experience at Guard and Center - if we were to swing and miss at some of the top targets for Center i think they wanted a fall back plan because bodine wasn't great and our guards were all pretty lousy.
Logic Posted February 12, 2019 Posted February 12, 2019 Another factor to consider with regard to his drop in level of play last year? His offensive line coach, none other than Rick Dennison, he of the zone blocking scheme. Here's hoping a scheme and scenery change and a return to full health will pay dividends for Long. 7
N.Y. Orangeman Posted February 12, 2019 Posted February 12, 2019 I think the other point on this is that we likely have every intention of drafting interior OL high in the draft, but can't be dependent upon them in 2019. I'll be shocked if this guy is getting a huge signing bonus, so the risk is limited if things either go south with his play or go really well with our potential rookie IOL class. 1
Putin Posted February 12, 2019 Posted February 12, 2019 Allen is doomed On 2/12/2019 at 5:28 PM, sunshynman said: As long as it's cheap and a depth move, OK. Surprised its a 3 year. Would have thought it would be a prove it type 1 year. Expand Almost 5 million a year for this clown ???
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