IgotBILLStopay Posted February 8, 2019 Posted February 8, 2019 Just now, Chuck Wagon said: But from the view of common sense logic it's better to have a high 1st and a high 2nd..... Depends on how much higher no? Would you prefer 24th and 31st or 21st and 33rd? Likely the former. But the answer is also a function of which player you feel strongly about and if he is available at, say, 21.
FearLess Price Posted February 8, 2019 Posted February 8, 2019 I think its a great move if you dont see the pass rusher or OL prospect you want valued at #9. Instead of reaching at 9 you can add some more ammo. 1
Thurman#1 Posted February 8, 2019 Posted February 8, 2019 9 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said: Depending on who is on the board, I'm in the 9 > 24 & 27 camp. But I think the argument with Oakland is deeply flawed. It basically depends on them not liking a QB enough to take him at 4 but then liking one enough to give up multiple picks to get him at 9. It's nonsensical IMO. If Oakland likes a QB enough to move on from Carr, they likely get a pretty decent return on Carr then either trade to move from 4 to 1 or 2 or simply take their guy at 4. Yeah, I wouldn't do this if I was Oakland. Three firsts including one of the blue chippers, for a team in the first year of a rebuild ... that would be sweet. If I were them, I'd be more likely to trade down from 24 or 27 to get an extra first next year when they have a better idea of what they need. Next year's supposed to be a better QB draft as well, though it sometimes doesn't work out that way by the time the next year actually ends.
BillsFan1988 Posted February 8, 2019 Posted February 8, 2019 54 minutes ago, Hebert19 said: On ESPN bold predictions this morning it says a possible trade partner is Oakland if they want to move up with their stockpile...would you trade down all the way to 24 to get another first? We would likely have to throw something else in...a nigu second is worth nearly the same and allows us to pick earlier. Things might get interesting this time around. Bills #9,40 For Raiders 24,27,35,66 4
T master Posted February 8, 2019 Posted February 8, 2019 I wouldn't put anything past Bean he seems to be a master (to this point) at negotiating when it comes to making a deal weather in the draft or other wise .
PromoTheRobot Posted February 8, 2019 Posted February 8, 2019 45 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Yeah, the team coming up always pays a small premium. 24 & 27 for 9 is almost perfect. I suppose the Bills could throw in one of those extra late rounders that they have to make it happen but it’s probably not necessary. How about trading 9 for Washington's 15, getting a 2nd and next year's 1st. Then trading 15 for Oakland's two 1's? My nipples could cut glass if that happened. 3
TheFunPolice Posted February 8, 2019 Posted February 8, 2019 We got Tre White, who has been amazing for us, way down in the late 20's of the 1st round. I would make this deal in a heartbeat. IF you hit on both and get 2 Tre White type players then look out! It's about to be rainbow and gumdrop season around here (a term I am taking from a Patriots troll who mocked my positive Bills thread!) 2
ndirish1978 Posted February 8, 2019 Posted February 8, 2019 Take the trade straight up and draft Risner and Fant or Cajuste
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 8, 2019 Posted February 8, 2019 10 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: My nipples could cut glass if that happened. So you’d exchange your gold studs for diamond studs if it happens? 1
row_33 Posted February 8, 2019 Posted February 8, 2019 I thought nobody watched or cared about ESPN for 20 years every time something true but harsh was said about the Bills.... 1
NewEraBills Posted February 8, 2019 Posted February 8, 2019 1 hour ago, buffalobillswin said: I'd much rather have the 9th pick than the 24th and 27th If there is a 5 star blue chip player that we covet and he's there at 9 I completely agree. You just don't pass up on those guys. But all of those type guys are gone and the difference between who we might covet after those guys is minimal, I think you make the trade. To me it just really depends on the combine and how the board starts to work itself out on draft night. 2
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 8, 2019 Posted February 8, 2019 10 minutes ago, row_33 said: I thought nobody watched or cared about ESPN for 20 years every time something true but harsh was said about the Bills.... I generally don’t but it’s fun to read their takes
row_33 Posted February 8, 2019 Posted February 8, 2019 14 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: I generally don’t but it’s fun to read their takes Oh yeah and now Rodak is like Einstein on here.... this just gets better and better....
BillsFan1988 Posted February 8, 2019 Posted February 8, 2019 54 minutes ago, BillsFan1988 said: Bills #9,40 For Raiders 24,27,35,66 #24 - TE TJ Hockenson #27 - Wr DK Metcalf #35- OT Dalton Risner #66 - OG Michael Deiter #75 - WR Andy Isabella 4
NewEra Posted February 8, 2019 Posted February 8, 2019 Considering where the talent lies in this draft, I’d make that trade 100%. 2 players for the price of one. 1
Shaw66 Posted February 8, 2019 Posted February 8, 2019 Beane's certainly shown a willingness to deal. And McDermott, too, when he and his inherited GM traded back from 10. I think it depends on how excited they are about the guy who falls to them at 9. If the guy they really want is there, they'll stay. If they guys they really wanted are gone, they might very well be willing to move out of 9 to get TWO quality young guys rather than one. McBeane aren't, in my opinion, interested in getting stars. They have the two guys they're betting will be stars - Allen and Edmunds. Now they're trying to stockpile good football players, and getting two good players instead of one potential star would be attractive to them. 1
White Linen Posted February 8, 2019 Posted February 8, 2019 Tough one for me. We are a team almost completely void of star players. Guys that are among the best at their position. Athletic freaks that change games. You need 'em and we don't have 'em. Is it possible to get them later in the first - yes, should it be easier/more likely to get one at 9 - yes Free agency will be the answer to this trade, which has me leaning towards keeping the 9th. Based on Beane's free agency judicious approach, we need a star to come out of the draft.
BillsFan1988 Posted February 8, 2019 Posted February 8, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, White Linen said: Tough one for me. We are a team almost completely void of star players. Guys that are among the best at their position. Athletic freaks that change games. You need 'em and we don't have 'em. Is it possible to get them later in the first - yes, should it be easier/more likely to get one at 9 - yes Free agency will be the answer to this trade, which has me leaning towards keeping the 9th. Based on Beane's free agency judicious approach, we need a star to come out of the draft. Who's to say the players we get at 24 & 27 won't be better then the player at 9 . There is no exact science to the draft some many factors involved. With that being said I think this yr is a great yr to move back in don't see the top 10 as top heavy as recent yrs . I think McBeane would love to make a deal likeep this. Edited February 8, 2019 by BillsFan1988 2
Spielman Posted February 8, 2019 Posted February 8, 2019 20 minutes ago, BillsFan1988 said: #24 - TE TJ Hockenson #27 - Wr DK Metcalf #35- OT Dalton Risner #66 - OG Michael Deiter #75 - WR Andy Isabella I like this- my picks would be: #24 - Cody Ford/Dalton Risner - G #27 - Hakeem Butler, WR #35 - Josh Jacobs, RB #66 - Andy Isabella, WR #75 - Kaden Smith, TE 1
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