Jay_Fixit Posted February 6, 2019 Posted February 6, 2019 30 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: LOL PEDelman? Laughable. If this were the NBA he’d be a shoe in. McGrady Mourning Dino ***** Radja Grant Hill Drazen Petrovic Sarunis Marciulionis The All American Redheads Julian Edelman.
C.Biscuit97 Posted February 6, 2019 Posted February 6, 2019 1 minute ago, Jay_Fixit said: If this were the NBA he’d be a shoe in. McGrady Mourning Dino ***** Radja Grant Hill Drazen Petrovic Sarunis Marciulionis The All American Redheads Julian Edelman. The basketball hall of fame is for all levels of basketball.
dave mcbride Posted February 6, 2019 Posted February 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Gugny said: TD had one phenomenal season and a couple very good seasons. That's a nice career, but it's not a HOF career, in my opinion. Without the 2K yard season, he wouldn't even sniff Canton. I think it was a horrible move to vote him in. But, then again, Joe Namath shouldn't be in, either, so I guess Canton's been watered down for a long time. 8 playoff games and 1,140 rushing yards and 12 TDs (plus a SB MVP). That's not a small sample size, and the numbers are staggering. Those games were against the best competition too.
Gugny Posted February 6, 2019 Posted February 6, 2019 12 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: TD had a stretch where he was a borderline top 5 rb of all time. I do get that it was a short career but he was a dominant, game changer. That’s what a HOF should be in my mind. Not this generation’s Wayne Chrebet playing with the best qb ever. I don't recall ever thinking TD was a top 5 all-time RB. I think top 20 might even be a stretch.
CommonCents Posted February 6, 2019 Posted February 6, 2019 (edited) Zach Thomas 5 time first team all pro and he isn’t talked about for the HOF. Screw Edelman. Edited February 6, 2019 by CommonCents
Mark92 Posted February 6, 2019 Posted February 6, 2019 1 minute ago, CommonCents said: Zach Thomas 5 time first team all pro and he isn’t talked about for the HOF. Screw Edelman Zach Thomas would be a HOF player had he played for the Patriots. It's Edelmans postseason stats that will get him in someday.
K-9 Posted February 6, 2019 Posted February 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Gugny said: TD had one phenomenal season and a couple very good seasons. That's a nice career, but it's not a HOF career, in my opinion. Without the 2K yard season, he wouldn't even sniff Canton. I think it was a horrible move to vote him in. But, then again, Joe Namath shouldn't be in, either, so I guess Canton's been watered down for a long time. As erudite as you are, your opinion of Namath is surprising. I could go on about why he is in the HOF, but I’ll just sum it up in ome sentence: Joe Namath is in the HOF because voters of that era understood the difference between being a passer and being a quarterback especially in an era where QBs called their own plays.
C.Biscuit97 Posted February 6, 2019 Posted February 6, 2019 16 minutes ago, Gugny said: I don't recall ever thinking TD was a top 5 all-time RB. I think top 20 might even be a stretch. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/D/DaviTe00.htm 96-99. You will be very hard pressed to find a better 3 year stretch of a rb ever. 1
Gugny Posted February 6, 2019 Posted February 6, 2019 Just now, C.Biscuit97 said: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/D/DaviTe00.htm 96-99. You will be very hard pressed to find a better 3 year stretch of a rb ever. Top 5 during that stretch? Of course. But he's never been close to top 5 of all time.
C.Biscuit97 Posted February 6, 2019 Posted February 6, 2019 1 minute ago, Gugny said: Top 5 during that stretch? Of course. But he's never been close to top 5 of all time. Barry Sanders, the best rb I ever say play, never had that good of a stretch. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SandBa00.htm personally, I think the HOF is for guys that dominate like TD instead of guys like JE (product of a great situation where many other players would excel) or a guy who plays forever and pass stats. JMO though. 1
GunnerBill Posted February 6, 2019 Posted February 6, 2019 No. Hall of very good. One of the best slots I have seen. Would take him over Welker in a heartbeat and he always shows up in the clutch. But I don't think he is quite HoF calibre. 1
Stank_Nasty Posted February 6, 2019 Posted February 6, 2019 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said: If this were the NBA he’d be a shoe in. McGrady Mourning Dino ***** Radja Grant Hill Drazen Petrovic Sarunis Marciulionis The All American Redheads Julian Edelman. THE white mamba? Edited February 6, 2019 by Stank_Nasty
C.Biscuit97 Posted February 6, 2019 Posted February 6, 2019 10 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: No. Hall of very good. One of the best slots I have seen. Would take him over Welker in a heartbeat and he always shows up in the clutch. But I don't think he is quite HoF calibre. You spelled calibre wrong! ?
GunnerBill Posted February 6, 2019 Posted February 6, 2019 1 minute ago, C.Biscuit97 said: You spelled calibre wrong! ? You guys can't use OUR language. That, I'm afraid, is not my problem. 2
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 6, 2019 Posted February 6, 2019 27 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: You spelled calibre wrong! ? Calibre ..... Sabres .... I'll go one further Favre sorry 1 more Theatre 28 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: You guys can't use OUR language. That, I'm afraid, is not my problem. And Bobs your uncle
Chris66 Posted February 7, 2019 Posted February 7, 2019 5 hours ago, Mark92 said: Zach Thomas would be a HOF player had he played for the Patriots. It's Edelmans postseason stats that will get him in someday. Zach Thomas should be on the hof. He was all pro 5 or 6 times.
Big Turk Posted February 7, 2019 Posted February 7, 2019 Welker would go in before Edelman...he invited his position in the Patriot offense.
row_33 Posted February 7, 2019 Posted February 7, 2019 6 hours ago, K-9 said: As erudite as you are, your opinion of Namath is surprising. I could go on about why he is in the HOF, but I’ll just sum it up in ome sentence: Joe Namath is in the HOF because voters of that era understood the difference between being a passer and being a quarterback especially in an era where QBs called their own plays. You can’t compare eras in football, so much has changed over each decade. rules and QB protection and medical advances to make a major 1968 knee injury seem like nothing the men competed on the field in their era under their rules and conditions and it can’t be translated into 40 years later by stats 1
Chicken Boo Posted February 7, 2019 Posted February 7, 2019 15 hours ago, Mark92 said: Zach Thomas would be a HOF player had he played for the Patriots. It's Edelmans postseason stats that will get him in someday. He will never get in because he doesn't deserve to be in.
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 7, 2019 Posted February 7, 2019 9 hours ago, matter2003 said: Welker would go in before Edelman...he invited his position in the Patriot offense. ...what about Hines Ward?...........
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