DC Tom Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 40 minutes ago, B-Man said: He thinks that the Democrats’ current liquidate-the-kulaks approach to taxes may prove counterproductive to the long-term interests of the United States. Nice kulak reference. Saw a Jacobin reference today, too. Nice to see that people are starting to see the progressive wing of the party for what it really is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BeginnersMind Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Paul Krugman, scared not just of Schulz, but the center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 1 hour ago, BeginnersMind said: Paul Krugman, scared not just of Schulz, but the center. Paul and Frank Rich sold off 90 percent of their brains when they joined the NYT to write columns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 1 hour ago, BeginnersMind said: Paul Krugman, scared not just of Schulz, but the center. FTA: " But I’m not talking about the left. Radical leftists are virtually nonexistent in American politics " 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 There are no real leftists in the US, but one is free to call themself whatever they want to, to extremes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 2 hours ago, Azalin said: FTA: " But I’m not talking about the left. Radical leftists are virtually nonexistent in American politics " I had to stop at that sentence. Krugman must be the most unaware nutbag on the left. I mean, other than whatever unaware nutbag would post a link to his stupidity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 14 hours ago, B-Man said: FEAR: Democrats, Media, Never-Trumpers Continue to Pile On Howard Schultz January 31, 2019 He's liberal, but he's not buying Democrat socialism, so his independent run presents a threat to uniting the left against Trump. He seems socially liberal and fiscally conservative based off this interview. He's also interest in entitlement reform. Both social security and medicaid. Answers are pretty vague though. I think he'd actually do a Ross Perot and equally syphon off about the same amount of votes from both candidates. https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/05/howard-schultz-on-hot-political-topics-gun-control-taxes-immigration.html Immigration “I don’t think we’ve got a very humane [immigration] policy. I think we need border security. But there’s a lot of nontruths. As an example, two-thirds of the undocumented people were talking about are not people that have crossed a border. They’re here because their visa has expired.” “Ronald Reagan in 1986 passed an immigration bill as a Republican president. So why can’t we come together, move the ideology out, and do what’s in the interest of American people? Seventy percent of the American people want a good immigration policy.” Trade “We’re in a trade battle here that I do not understand. Our problem is not China. Our problem is here in the U.S. We have a $21 trillion debt. We’re paying $400 billion of interest. These things are unsustainable.” “This rhetoric about all these trade wars that are now being engaged with China, with Mexico, with Canada. And this might sound like a trite line, but it’s important, we should not be in the business of building walls. We should be in the business of building bridges with our neighbors and allies. And our standing in the world today is not what it should be and we have to advance America’s values around the world and we have to deal with the systemic domestic issues in the country. And that is about servant leadership. We have not had servant leadership in government in a long time where we are working in service of the American people.” Tax policy “I was disappointed [in the GOP’s tax cut bill]. Corporate America did not need a tax cut to 21 percent when we could have done so much more for the people of the country. Forty-five percent of the people in America don’t have $500 in the bank for a crisis.” “What I said specifically is I did not believe that the majority of companies in America were going to take a corporate tax cut from 35 percent to 21 percent and do all the things the administration was spewing about, in terms of advancing the economy and creating jobs and doing all these great things. And I said most companies were going to give it back to the shareholders. What we decided to do was almost 50 percent of the benefit, we gave to our people. I didn’t give credit to the administration for that. I gave credit to the fact the leadership of Starbucks did the right thing. And that is, success is best when it’s shared.” The economy and the stock market “First off, I think it’s very wrong to use the stock market as a proxy for the U.S. economy. Interest rates are going up. If I had to make a bet, and I’m not an economist, I don’t believe that the stock market is going to continue to grow at the level it has between now and 2020. You’re going to see change. So, listen, the economy is strong. I give President [Barack] Obama credit for that. I give President [Donald] Trump some credit for that.” The debt “I think the greatest threat domestically to the country is this $21 trillion debt hanging over the cloud of America and future generations.” Gun control “Seventy percent of the American people want the kind of policy legislation that takes the guns of war out of the American peoples’ neighborhoods.” The national budget “We have a budget process that is broken.” “We haven’t had a balanced budget since President [Bill] Clinton. Think about that.” Veterans affairs “We’ve got a situation with veterans in which we talk about taking care of veterans, but then the VA doesn’t work.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 On 1/28/2019 at 11:16 AM, B-Man said: Well, I guess that I was wrong.............they won't wait 2 years (Think Progress Justice Editor) Liberals: Trump is an authoritarian fascist....................also, if anyone launches an independent campaign for office, we will silence and destroy them until they go away” More: Larry Sabato ✔@LarrySabato What do you bet that the GOP and the Russians will do everything possible to surreptitiously promote @HowardSchultz among Democratic constituencies, to drain the maximum number of votes from the D POTUS nominee? - Jan 27, 2019 RUSSIANS !!!! This theory will only grow in the coming weeks and months: If he really does run as an independent, I will send him money, and I am being 100% sincere. Mark my words, that disgusting slob Kasich will run and receive a pocket full of money from the left. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 If the left is afraid it can't beat Donald Trump if Howard Schultz runs as an independent, maybe Howard Schultz isn't the problem. ? "Democrats are furious at former Starbucks chief executive Howard Schultz for announcing that he may launch an independent campaign for president. They fear he will split the anti-Trump opposition and help reelect the president. But what angers them even more is that Schultz is calling Democrats out for how radical their party has become. When Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) recently floated her new wealth tax, Schultz called it “ridiculous.” When Sen. Kamala D. Harris (D-Calif.) said we should “eliminate” private health insurance, Schultz said, “That’s not American.” When Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) proposed a 70 percent marginal tax rate, Schultz dismissed it, saying “I don’t think we want a 70 percent income tax in America.” Indeed, Schultz has ripped the entire Democratic socialist agenda, declaring “Free Medicare-for-all, government-paid free college for all — first of all, there’s no free. I mean nothing is free.”...https://www.washingtonpost.... Quote Ian MillhiserVerified account @imillhiser FollowFollow @imillhiser I can't wait to tax Howard Schultz back into the middle class. . 6:24 AM - 31 Jan 2019 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 Who the ***** is Ian Millhiser? ***** him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 1 hour ago, snafu said: Who the ***** is Ian Millhiser? ***** him. **** him indeed. He blogs at this socialist-progressive site: https://thinkprogress.org/ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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