OldTimeAFLGuy Posted January 24, 2019 Posted January 24, 2019 Just now, Buffalo716 said: Jack Daniels ...pull the trigger!........
Alphadawg7 Posted January 24, 2019 Posted January 24, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: I don’t want to sound rude on one of your first threads Blake Bortles. Why???? He’s not that good. And with a high salary not worth it I think you missed what he said. They would GIVE US a 2nd round pick and a 5th round pick to take on his contract. So we aren't trading for Blake, we are essentially getting the Jags 2nd and 5th round picks just for taking on Blake and his contract. Just like Cleveland did with Houston when they took on Osweiler. Edited January 24, 2019 by Alphadawg7
Heff Posted January 24, 2019 Author Posted January 24, 2019 I understand all view points ,but I really don’t see any eye popping wr’s in free agency and this would allow OT in first and 2 early seconds for Wide receiver’s. I also think his cap hit will b 16 million.... osweiler was 15 ish 1 1
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 24, 2019 Posted January 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Alphadawg7 said: I think you missed what he said. They would GIVE US a 2nd round pick and a 5th round pick to take on his contract. So we aren't trading for Blake, we are essentially getting the Jags 2nd and 5th round picks just for taking on Blake and his contract. Just like Cleveland did with Houston. I do not want anything to do with Blake Bortles who IMO is slightly better than Tyrod
formerlyofCtown Posted January 24, 2019 Posted January 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: I don’t want to sound rude on one of your first threads Blake Bortles. Why???? He’s not that good. And with a high salary not worth it Read. He is saying eat the cap hit in exchange for picks and cut him at some point.
Alphadawg7 Posted January 24, 2019 Posted January 24, 2019 Just now, ShadyBillsFan said: I do not want anything to do with Blake Bortles who IMO is slightly better than Tyrod You are missing the point. It has nothing to do with Blake at all. They give us their 2nd and 5th round pick AND Blake bortles for essentially nothing. They free themselves of Blakes salary, which we take on and they are paying us a 2nd round pick and a 5th round pick to do so. Once we have him, we can just cut him and take the cap hit because we have the cap room. We then have the Jags 2nd and 5th round picks for taking a short term cap hit. Literally has nothing to do with Bortles or him playing for the Bills. We just have the cap space to help the Jags relieve cap space...and they are paying us a hefty price in draft picks to do that. This is what Houston and Cleveland did with Osweiler and then Cleveland cut him and netter the 2nd round pick from Houston still. So thats why I keep saying you are missing the point, really has nothing to do with Bortles nor would Bortles remain a Bill afterwards. 2 1
nucci Posted January 24, 2019 Posted January 24, 2019 28 minutes ago, Heff said: Long time reader first time topic poster. I was wondering if we could pull a Cleveland move and obsorb Blake Bortles contract for a second rd pick, plus a fifth? did you need 5 question marks to ask this question?
PIZ Posted January 24, 2019 Posted January 24, 2019 Interesting topic. Here's what went down in Cleveland. https://www.si.com/mmqb/2017/03/09/cleveland-browns-brock-osweiler-trade-houston-texans-moneyball
Heff Posted January 24, 2019 Author Posted January 24, 2019 Also I don’t want Blake bortles 2 even step foot on New era field . Take the cap hit for they compensation. Then release 1
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 24, 2019 Posted January 24, 2019 Sorry you don’t agree with my sentiment that I don’t care if they gave us 5 first picks and he comes at no cost. No to Bortles
Foxx Posted January 24, 2019 Posted January 24, 2019 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Heff said: Long time reader first time topic poster. I was wondering if we could pull a Cleveland move and obsorb Blake Bortles contract for a second rd pick, plus a fifth? this actually a rather interesting idea. kudos! 41 minutes ago, BillyWhiteShows said: Interesting but it doesn’t seem to be their style. Plus there are two QB’s under contract that have both been helpful to Allen. doesn't mean we have to keep him, just inherit the money and cut him, like buying a vowel. Edited January 24, 2019 by Foxx
boater Posted January 24, 2019 Posted January 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: We then have the Jags 2nd and 5th round picks for taking a short term cap hit. Your creativity is noted, and appreciated. I tried to reply with an eloquent post about the value of picks versus cap hit.. but found it hard to verbalize. Short story: a 2nd and 5th for a disposable player is not something the Jags would offer (even to evade a cap hit). The Bortles market will heat up after the draft.
BADOLBILZ Posted January 24, 2019 Posted January 24, 2019 34 minutes ago, Heff said: Long time reader first time topic poster. I was wondering if we could pull a Cleveland move and obsorb Blake Bortles contract for a second rd pick, plus a fifth? Yeah I brought this up in another thread. I don't think Blake would net that much.........the acquiring team would only have to eat $6.5M(the guaranteed portion of 2019 salary).............so you might get a 4th and a 6th or something? Another interesting one is former Panther All Pro guard and last years hottest OL free agent Andrew Norwell..........who the Jags could save $13M in actual guaranteed 2019 salary if they traded him. Seeing more of these early year base salary guarantees in contracts.........which makes them more tradeable. I doubt the Bills would want to pay hi that $13M in salary but if they strike out in OL shopping in FA you never know. Former Panther stud. 1
Foxx Posted January 24, 2019 Posted January 24, 2019 (edited) 19 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: I do not want anything to do with Blake Bortles who IMO is slightly better than Tyrod take the 2nd rounder and a 5th and cut the slug. Edited January 24, 2019 by Foxx 1
artmalibu Posted January 24, 2019 Posted January 24, 2019 The only way I would see it is if the Bills needed a #2 QB..
Foxx Posted January 24, 2019 Posted January 24, 2019 10 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Sorry you don’t agree with my sentiment that I don’t care if they gave us 5 first picks and he comes at no cost. No to Bortles ?? Shady, are you off your rocker? 5 firsts for Bortles salary... all day, every day. 2
Not at the table Karlos Posted January 24, 2019 Posted January 24, 2019 13 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Sorry you don’t agree with my sentiment that I don’t care if they gave us 5 first picks and he comes at no cost. No to Bortles Thats just dumb.
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 24, 2019 Posted January 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, Foxx said: ?? Shady, are you off your rocker? 5 firsts for Bortles salary... all day, every day. I may have gone a bit overboard. I just dont want anything to do with him. 1 1
machine gun kelly Posted January 24, 2019 Posted January 24, 2019 So you’d rather have an absorption of a substantial contract because of a 2nd and 5th, knowing less than 10% of fifths ever start, vs. going after a couple of WR and a Guard or Center, and then have more talent when we draft as we already have two 2nds. Doesnt make any sense to me as I live in FL and he is not good at all, but I do welcome you to the board.
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 24, 2019 Posted January 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Not at the table Karlos said: Thats just dumb. Everyone has a moment or 2 of insanity 2
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