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Clashing in Cleveland: How Hue Jackson, Jimmy Haslam and Baker Mayfield collided (and how they almost hired Sean McDermott)


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1 minute ago, Doc said:

 

Would McD have picked Cleveland over Buffalo?  I have my doubts about that one.

He wouldn’t have been available. He interviewed with the Browns  in a previous hiring  cycle. 

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1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

Hue saying  “get the f*** out of my office” to the person who literally owns his office is the most Hue-ish thing ever

 

He said it to Dorsey, not Haslam, but it was still Hue-ish.

 

This is a great article, one of the best I've ever read on management dysfunction in pro sports.  Just fascinating.  Lots for me to process still.

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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

Details the last 6 years of Haslam ownership. It’s fascinating. 

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25797430/inside-cleveland-browns-front-office-where-hope-history-collide

My look inside the dysfunction that has defined the Browns—from Hue telling Haslam to get “the f— out of my office,” to Haslam nicknaming Sashi Brown “Obama,” to porn accidentally projecting in the facility—and if it’ll redefine what Mayfield can transcend

 

 

Yolo, you know I love you but you have to be kidding us.

 

The heck with the story above, the real story is the second video that rolls after the Haslam story...John Fox stating the Bills are his team to make the biggest gains next season.  He likes Beane and he thinks after clearing up the dead cap space the Bills will straighten out the OLine and the O in general.

 

Key.

 

To.

 

The.

 

City.

 

Today!!!

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1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

Details the last 6 years of Haslam ownership. It’s fascinating. 

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25797430/inside-cleveland-browns-front-office-where-hope-history-collide

My look inside the dysfunction that has defined the Browns—from Hue telling Haslam to get “the f— out of my office,” to Haslam nicknaming Sashi Brown “Obama,” to porn accidentally projecting in the facility—and if it’ll redefine what Mayfield can transcend

 

 

Good grief. That is awful.

 

Thanks for finding it. Pieces of that story made my skin crawl.

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1 minute ago, dollars 2 donuts said:

 

 

Yolo, you know I love you but you have to be kidding us.

 

The heck with the story above, the real story is the second video that rolls after the Haslam story...John Fox stating the Bills as his team to make the biggest gains next season.  Hoe likes Beane and he thinks after clearing up the dead cap space the Bills will straighten out the OLine and the O in general.

 

Key.

 

To.

 

The.

 

City.

 

Today!!!

I was too focused  past this part :lol:

 

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Posted (edited)
8 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Would McD have picked Cleveland over Buffalo?  I have my doubts about that one.

Different seasons. The Bills job wasn't open at the time. We still had the trainwrex for one more year. Jackson was hired in 2016, McDermott by the Bills in '17

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Posted
37 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Mayfield has been good, but letting him choose the HC may have been a little premature (i like Kitchens btw, just saying the process raised some eyebrows). Depodesta wanted Stefanski.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/Article/Baker-Mayfield-Browns-head-coach-Kevin-Stefanski-Freddie-Kitchens-127644466/Amp/

 

To be fair to Kitchens he's seemed to put together a really good coaching staff

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1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said:

I was too focused  past this part :lol:

 

 

Thank God they didn't do a search on a "reach around tackle" or "3rd input running options" or "Cleveland steamer turnaround."

 

Do you want more?

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Posted (edited)
4 minutes ago, FeelingOnYouboty said:

 

To be fair to Kitchens he's seemed to put together a really good coaching staff

Like I said, I like Kitchens. The process of their decision-making raised some eyebrows and rightfully so based on history.

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16 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

I was too focused  past this part :lol:

 

 

 

A. This is HILARIOUS

 

B. In their defense, there's no other meanings attached to billsmafia and if you searched it, it may resemble a porno...

Posted
1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

Details the last 6 years of Haslam ownership. It’s fascinating. 

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25797430/inside-cleveland-browns-front-office-where-hope-history-collide

My look inside the dysfunction that has defined the Browns—from Hue telling Haslam to get “the f— out of my office,” to Haslam nicknaming Sashi Brown “Obama,” to porn accidentally projecting in the facility—and if it’ll redefine what Mayfield can transcend

After reading this, Haslam for me replaces the Jerry Jones/Snyder as the worst owner in the NFL.  What a snake.

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Just now, dave mcbride said:

After reading this, Haslam for me replaces the Jerry Jones/Snyder as the worst owner in the NFL.  What a snake.

 

Really?  He doesn’t seem evil (like Snyder), just incompetent.

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Posted
1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

Thank Goodness for Haslam or we wouldn’t have McDermott

Even better was the follow-up "Haslam told the group he felt Jackson could relate better to players."

 

Surprised they didn't mention if Haslam tried to have any input on drafting Mayfield - the lack of any mention of that probably shows Dorsey was able to have control and get the guys he wanted without meddling from the owner.   Also, it seems Mayfield really hated Hue - seems like he probably had "input" into getting rid of him and with the Kitchens hire - but no real stories that got into that.

 

Can you imagine a situation where the OC is walking around saying "1-31" to disparage the coach.  That's pretty hard core dysfunction.

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Posted
23 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said:

 

Thank God they didn't do a search on a "reach around tackle" or "3rd input running options" or "Cleveland steamer turnaround."

 

Do you want more?

Well I was thinking the full "dogpound" would probably result in some interesting hits as well

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