Rockpile233 Posted May 9, 2019 Posted May 9, 2019 2 hours ago, May Day 10 said: Whether its a valid complaint or not.... i think its a bad look that botterill is in europe working a second job at the loser tournament instead of "focusing" on this team that is a heavy lift and obviously needs a lot of work. His co-gms are both unemployed. It looks worse that the coaching carousel is continually spinning. If edmonton lands tippett while he is gone, im going to have trouble not being angered by this. I guess when a stated goal is to "be in a position to be in games"... the bar is set low enough where there is plenty of room for error Agreed. I’m not overly worried about who they hire for a coach, but I just think it’s bizarre our GM is out of the country and there has been practically nothing out of them concerning the search. At least one of my season ticket holding friends is very aggravated by it.
May Day 10 Posted May 9, 2019 Posted May 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, Rockpile233 said: Agreed. I’m not overly worried about who they hire for a coach, but I just think it’s bizarre our GM is out of the country and there has been practically nothing out of them concerning the search. At least one of my season ticket holding friends is very aggravated by it. I do realize this is a world of connectivity, cell phones, etc... but I don't know. If nothing else, it is really bad optics. Seeing the condition his NHL team was in, he really should have declined the Canada job. What if Tippett is waivering between Holland/Edmonton and Botterill/Buffalo, and a face to face meeting or bringing him into town to show him the facilities, introduce him to some people/staff and such could win him over? I am very close to tossing my season tickets. Waiting to see the results of this coaching search and this isn't helping.
shrader Posted May 9, 2019 Posted May 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, May Day 10 said: I do realize this is a world of connectivity, cell phones, etc... but I don't know. If nothing else, it is really bad optics. Seeing the condition his NHL team was in, he really should have declined the Canada job. What if Tippett is waivering between Holland/Edmonton and Botterill/Buffalo, and a face to face meeting or bringing him into town to show him the facilities, introduce him to some people/staff and such could win him over? I am very close to tossing my season tickets. Waiting to see the results of this coaching search and this isn't helping. While we're playing the what if game, what if Keefe is their guy and they can't do a thing while the Marlies are still in the playoffs? 1
Rockpile233 Posted May 9, 2019 Posted May 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, May Day 10 said: I do realize this is a world of connectivity, cell phones, etc... but I don't know. If nothing else, it is really bad optics. Seeing the condition his NHL team was in, he really should have declined the Canada job. What if Tippett is waivering between Holland/Edmonton and Botterill/Buffalo, and a face to face meeting or bringing him into town to show him the facilities, introduce him to some people/staff and such could win him over? I am very close to tossing my season tickets. Waiting to see the results of this coaching search and this isn't helping. I agree that, while it’s probably not a big deal, it’s just a bad look. He’s running a team in a professional league who needs a coach. Why are you working on a side project during a coaching search? Even if if you are doing all the right things remotely, shouldn’t you engage the fans who sat through another frustrating season? I don’t know, but just doesn’t seem right. 2 minutes ago, shrader said: While we're playing the what if game, what if Keefe is their guy and they can't do a thing while the Marlies are still in the playoffs? I don’t buy Sabres season tickets, but I can understand why ticket holders approaching renewal would be aggravated by the lack of feedback. 1
May Day 10 Posted May 9, 2019 Posted May 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, shrader said: While we're playing the what if game, what if Keefe is their guy and they can't do a thing while the Marlies are still in the playoffs? That would be fine. As I said, I'm waiting to see the results of this... but if things break in a way I do not like, my mind will definitely go to this Euro Trip as a source of displeasure.
bbb Posted May 10, 2019 Posted May 10, 2019 5 hours ago, May Day 10 said: What if Tippett is waivering between Holland/Edmonton and Botterill/Buffalo Maybe Botterill knows that people don't like him, so to give us our best chance, he's on another continent. Smart move! 3
4merper4mer Posted May 10, 2019 Posted May 10, 2019 In the grand scheme of things it probably shouldn't prevent anything from happening but being half a world away, with priority given to a tournament that is fairly meaningless, is definitely a bad look. Other teams making coaching moves during this time makes it worse. Tim Murray was the worst GM I've ever seen. He was worse than Matt Millen. He made almost universally bad decisions and called everyone in his field of vision stupid. That said, he never looked lazy. Don't get me wrong, lazy is an improvement over Murray. But it's not good.
BillsFan4 Posted May 10, 2019 Author Posted May 10, 2019 I am wondering if this may be what’s holding up any Tippett hire. Tim Liwicki hired him to help put together a hockey ops staff, and now that Tippett may be leaving I can see where Liwicki could’ve asked him to stay on long enough to at least help put a GM in place, who can then finish assembling the hockey ops.
Buffalo Barbarian Posted May 10, 2019 Posted May 10, 2019 18 hours ago, BillsFan4 said: Gronborg is out. Why this move by Grönborg tells me s that he knows his big weakness is not having in-season head coaching experience. I think he knows that he needs to be a true head coach somewhere before he will get an NHL opportunity. clearly no NHL teams were interested in him as a head coach. Why is Tippett out? If this is from my comment earlier, I did some more research and Friedman just mentioned that he was one of the candidates. Far from a done deal. this sux
Buffalo Barbarian Posted May 10, 2019 Posted May 10, 2019 16 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: JBotts is really hitting this coaching search out of the park, no? A month from now they will just promote Chris Taylor from Rochester. Not that he might not be good, just that the Sabres dicked around this long while real candidates went elsewhere. I was on the fence on renewing my seasons. This is not helping. Darcy and Lindy are available.
BillsFan4 Posted May 10, 2019 Author Posted May 10, 2019 7 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: this sux Not a single NHL team was interested in him. He said himself he hasn’t been a full time head coach in 14 years. And hey, its only a 2 year deal with ZSC. So it will line up perfectly with the Sabres next coaching search 2 years from now! lol (only half joking...) 1
BillsFan4 Posted May 10, 2019 Author Posted May 10, 2019 (edited) I really hope Tippett decides to come here, assuming White super secret source is right, which doesn’t seem to happen that often... but I really, really want to believe him this time! lol Jacques Martin would be a tough one to get behind. Edited May 10, 2019 by BillsFan4
JohnC Posted May 10, 2019 Posted May 10, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: this sux While you brood I celebrate. Tippett is the man I want behind the bench. I just think that he is the type of coach who is more adaptable to the talent he has on hand rather than be the type of coach who imposes his ingrained system. 2 hours ago, BillsFan4 said: I really hope Tippett decides to come here, assuming White super secret source is right, which doesn’t seem to happen that often... but I really, really want to believe him this time! lol Jacques Martin would be a tough one to get behind. After listening to this WGR interview with someone from Montreal I would find a Martin selection uninspiring and disappointing. This is an 8 minute segment. https://wgr550.radio.com/media/audio-channel/05-10-pat-hickey-montreal-gazette-howard-and-jeremy-jacques-martin Edited May 10, 2019 by JohnC 1
BillsFan4 Posted May 10, 2019 Author Posted May 10, 2019 1 hour ago, JohnC said: While you brood I celebrate. Tippett is the man I want behind the bench. I just think that he is the type of coach who is more adaptable to the talent he has on hand rather than be the type of coach who imposes his ingrained system. After listening to this WGR interview with someone from Montreal I would find a Martin selection would be uninspiring and disappointing. This is an 8 minute segment. https://wgr550.radio.com/media/audio-channel/05-10-pat-hickey-montreal-gazette-howard-and-jeremy-jacques-martin I would be beyond disappointed with a Martin hire. He has a ton of experience and had some success as a head coach in Ottawa 20 years ago. But there is a reason why he hasn’t been a head coaching candidate for years.... I don’t think he is the right personality type for this current team either. Hes kind of soft spoken and passive. He’s not the type of guy that will command a locker room. I just don’t think he’s the type of leader this team needs. I could see the whole buy-in issue popping up again with Martin, similar to Bylsma. Plus he’s almost 70... There was a report that came out a while back (after the last time Martine was mentioned as a top candidate) saying that Martin was only being looked at in an assistant coaching type role. I am really hoping that is still true. Martin as an assistant would be a good thing. As a head coach? No thank you. 1
PromoTheRobot Posted May 10, 2019 Posted May 10, 2019 14 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Darcy and Lindy are available. Don't laugh. Who built the last champion contenders?
Nextmanup Posted May 11, 2019 Posted May 11, 2019 25 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Don't laugh. Who built the last champion contenders? I'd rather swallow some broken glass than see those two back in Buffalo.
PromoTheRobot Posted May 11, 2019 Posted May 11, 2019 7 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: I'd rather swallow some broken glass than see those two back in Buffalo. Just saying we've been wandering the desert since them.
Buffalo Barbarian Posted May 11, 2019 Posted May 11, 2019 12 hours ago, JohnC said: While you brood I celebrate. Tippett is the man I want behind the bench. I just think that he is the type of coach who is more adaptable to the talent he has on hand rather than be the type of coach who imposes his ingrained system. After listening to this WGR interview with someone from Montreal I would find a Martin selection uninspiring and disappointing. This is an 8 minute segment. https://wgr550.radio.com/media/audio-channel/05-10-pat-hickey-montreal-gazette-howard-and-jeremy-jacques-martin Whatever we have to do to win i am for. 7 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: Don't laugh. Who built the last champion contenders? thats how i see it.
JohnC Posted May 11, 2019 Posted May 11, 2019 5 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Whatever we have to do to win i am for. That's the spirit! Getting a good coach is essential. Adding more talent to the roster is even more essential. 1
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