3rdnlng Posted March 22, 2020 Posted March 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, Crayola64 said: I shared my job one time when the topic was law. Posters like you insulted me and said I must not be successful. So I shared that I was successful. I have never once brought up I was lawyer since with the exception of you obsessing over it and insulting it. Your job is directly relevant to you rambling about not taking paychecks for things you are morally opposed to. So share it clown cool, still nothing relevant to killing children after birth. That’s when I stopped answering your questions You know when the ridicule really started? When you attacked DR for what you claimed was his poor writing skills and then mentioned that you taught writing at a local school. I have never posted anything here about me taking paychecks for doing something I was morally opposed to. Quit making stuff up.
Numark3 Posted March 22, 2020 Posted March 22, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, 3rdnlng said: You know when the ridicule really started? When you attacked DR for what you claimed was his poor writing skills and then mentioned that you taught writing at a local school. I have never posted anything here about me taking paychecks for doing something I was morally opposed to. Quit making stuff up. It is the very topic we are discussing. You want to criticize me for accepting money for stuff i morally oppose? Then let's see what you get paychecks for and see if you are being a hypocrite. It is relevant, stop lying. We know the actual reason you won't share it. It is not for relevancy. And I never said local school, stop making it up. It is a top 20 law school, you made up that it was a community college. (example 100 of you lying about my job) Edited March 22, 2020 by Crayola64
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted March 22, 2020 Posted March 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Crayola64 said: I shared my job one time when the topic was law. Posters like you insulted me and said I must not be successful. So I shared that I was successful. I have never once brought up I was lawyer since with the exception of you obsessing over it and insulting it. Your job is directly relevant to you rambling about not taking paychecks for things you are morally opposed to. So share it clown cool, still nothing relevant to killing children after birth. That’s when I stopped answering your questions I simply asked a question, and you lost your composure. There are people who believe that it's their role to end the life of a child born where the woman carrying that child wanted the child aborted. For all your bluster, DR's video of the gov of Virginia reveals exactly that. The story of Kermit Gosnell is another example. My only question to you, after you spoke about a willingness to perform late term abortions was if you fell into the Northam/Gosnell category or not.
Numark3 Posted March 22, 2020 Posted March 22, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: I simply asked a question, and you lost your composure. There are people who believe that it's their role to end the life of a child born where the woman carrying that child wanted the child aborted. For all your bluster, DR's video of the gov of Virginia reveals exactly that. The story of Kermit Gosnell is another example. My only question to you, after you spoke about a willingness to perform late term abortions was if you fell into the Northam/Gosnell category or not. lol lost my composure. ? No bill permits it. No law permits it. no proposed law permits it. laws forbid it. Extremely rare examples of people breaking the law, and idiots saying stuff, does not make it relevant to the abortion debate. The fact it is a talking point for you is embarrassing ************************* @3rdnlng "You accept money for stuff you morally oppose" Yes, what do you get paychecks for and see how it aligns with your morales... "NOT RELVANTTTT" Edited March 22, 2020 by Crayola64
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted March 22, 2020 Posted March 22, 2020 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Crayola64 said: lol lost my composure. ? No bill permits it. No law permits it. no proposed law permits it. laws forbid it. Extremely rare examples of people breaking the law, and idiots saying stuff, does not make it relevant to the abortion debate. The fact it is a talking point for you is embarrassing ************************* @3rdnlng "You accept money for stuff you morally oppose" Yes, what do you get paychecks for and see how it aligns with your morales... "NOT RELVANTTTT" Look, we're getting nowhere fast here Perry Mason. We've covered the same ground and you're hyper-fixated on something we already agreed on. I never asked if you would violate THE law, I never suggested that you have, I just asked a question. From there, you lost your composure and lobbed insults my way, which is fine, but it reveals a weakness in your character in my opinion. True, I already feel there is a weakness in your character given that you would boast about a willingness to end the life of a child at full term, but acknowledge you would be able to do so legally under the law. Edited March 22, 2020 by leh-nerd skin-erd
Numark3 Posted March 22, 2020 Posted March 22, 2020 1 minute ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Look, we're getting nowhere fast here Perry Mason. We've covered the same ground and you're hyper-fixated on something we already agreed on. I never asked if you would violate THE law, I never suggested that you have, I just asked a question. From there, you lost your composure and lobbed insults my way, which is fine, but it reveals a weakness in your character in my opinion. True, I already feel there is a weakness in your character given that you would boast about a willingness to end the life of a child at full term, but acknowledge you would be able to do so legally under the law. its because I value the choice of a family over the life of an unborn child.
3rdnlng Posted March 22, 2020 Posted March 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Crayola64 said: It is the very topic we are discussing. You want to criticize me for accepting money for stuff i morally oppose? Then let's see what you get paychecks for and see if you are being a hypocrite. It is relevant, stop lying. We know the actual reason you won't share it. It is not for relevancy. And I never said local school, stop making it up. It is a top 20 law school, you made up that it was a community college. (example 100 of you lying about my job) You might have posted your dilemma in a different way than you did to avoid this kind of discussion if you simply stated that you hated representing guilty clients or some such thing it would be understandable but we know you're not a defense lawyer so there goes that. You chose to say you wouldn't perform abortions unless you got paid enough to do them. That tells me you are for sale. As far as I go, I have stated here before when it was pertinent to the topic at hand, that I had a career in manufacturing management and then a 2nd one in real estate development. I am now retired and have a part-time job of about 10 hours a week servicing former actresses and beauty queens. It's a fun job and I provide a needed service, plus you should see the Christmas and Birthday gifts I receive.
Numark3 Posted March 22, 2020 Posted March 22, 2020 Just now, 3rdnlng said: You might have posted your dilemma in a different way than you did to avoid this kind of discussion if you simply stated that you hated representing guilty clients or some such thing it would be understandable but we know you're not a defense lawyer so there goes that. You chose to say you wouldn't perform abortions unless you got paid enough to do them. That tells me you are for sale. As far as I go, I have stated here before when it was pertinent to the topic at hand, that I had a career in manufacturing management and then a 2nd one in real estate development. I am now retired and have a part-time job of about 10 hours a week servicing former actresses and beauty queens. It's a fun job and I provide a needed service, plus you should see the Christmas and Birthday gifts I receive. hey, I only defend manufacturers.
3rdnlng Posted March 22, 2020 Posted March 22, 2020 28 minutes ago, Crayola64 said: lol lost my composure. ? No bill permits it. No law permits it. no proposed law permits it. laws forbid it. Extremely rare examples of people breaking the law, and idiots saying stuff, does not make it relevant to the abortion debate. The fact it is a talking point for you is embarrassing ************************* @3rdnlng "You accept money for stuff you morally oppose" Yes, what do you get paychecks for and see how it aligns with your morales... "NOT RELVANTTTT" Really?
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted March 22, 2020 Posted March 22, 2020 Just now, Crayola64 said: its because I value the choice of a family over the life of an unborn child. You didn't approach the question from a perspective of the choice of family v unborn child, you approached it boasting of your willingness to do the down and dirty work so long as you got paid. Were you bluffing then, or now?
4merper4mer Posted March 22, 2020 Posted March 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Crayola64 said: "I DONT SHARE MY JOB BECAUSE ITS NOT RELEVANT" ...the topic is what you accept to do for paychecks, your job is the most relevant thing. "DERRR U LOST" what is your job, I won't ridicule you like you do. I just want to see if it aligns with your morales If you don't feel your job is relevant you should probably seek a new one. I'd first suggest taking a deeper look at what you do because most, if not all jobs are relevant in at least some way. You may not want to start down a new path until you're sure your current one is truly irrelevant.
B-Man Posted March 23, 2020 Posted March 23, 2020 Ohio abortion clinics say they will still offer services, despite order from state attorney general https://news.yahoo.com/ohio-abortion-clinics-still-offer-051800966.html Only the correct people are allowed to break the law without consequence. . 2
jrober38 Posted March 23, 2020 Posted March 23, 2020 It'll be interesting to see how the COVID-19 pandemic develops over the next two weeks. I feel like there's a decent chance that Republicans begin pushing to reopen the economy even though it will mean the loss of dramatically more life than if things had been kept shut. Keeping things shut will likely result in an economic collapse though, with the trade off being fewer hospitals overwhelmed and more lives saved.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 23, 2020 Posted March 23, 2020 On 3/22/2020 at 5:09 PM, Crayola64 said: its because I value the choice of a family over the life of an unborn child. So, if a majority decided retroactive abortion was moral, you'd have no problem being aborted? Great!
jrober38 Posted March 23, 2020 Posted March 23, 2020 18 minutes ago, jrober38 said: It'll be interesting to see how the COVID-19 pandemic develops over the next two weeks. I feel like there's a decent chance that Republicans begin pushing to reopen the economy even though it will mean the loss of dramatically more life than if things had been kept shut. Keeping things shut will likely result in an economic collapse though, with the trade off being fewer hospitals overwhelmed and more lives saved. There you have it. 15 days of shutdown and then Trump and the GOP will begin opening things back up. Who cares how many people die. Saving the stock market is more important. The hypocrisy here is mind boggling.
B-Man Posted March 23, 2020 Posted March 23, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, jrober38 said: There you have it. 15 days of shutdown and then Trump and the GOP will begin opening things back up. Who cares how many people die. Saving the stock market is more important. The hypocrisy here is mind boggling. There you have it. The false comparison of the Trump administration stating that they will revaluate how things are going in two weeks and wether or not some changes can be made to help out with the economics of ALL Americans big and small, with the ripping of a baby out of its womb. Hypocrite is not a strong enough word for you jrober38. Stick to the liberal excuse threads ! . Edited March 23, 2020 by B-Man 1
jrober38 Posted March 23, 2020 Posted March 23, 2020 46 minutes ago, B-Man said: There you have it. The false comparison of the Trump administration stating that they will revaluate how things are going in two weeks and wether or not some changes can be made to help out with the economics of ALL Americans big and small, with the ripping of a baby out of its womb. Hypocrite is not a strong enough word for you jrober38. Stick to the liberal excuse threads ! . Honestly I don't have a problem with either. I have no issue with abortion, and I have no issue with the government trying to save the economy if it means hundreds of thousands more people dying than is necessary. I don't care. I just think the lack of awareness to realize that BOTH decisions are almost entirely based on economic consequences is hysterical. CHOOSING to let more people die than is necessary so that you're not economically inconvenienced is the same damn reason most people get an abortion.
B-Man Posted March 23, 2020 Posted March 23, 2020 16 minutes ago, jrober38 said: CHOOSING to let more people die than is necessary so that you're not economically inconvenienced is the same damn reason most people get an abortion. Except that is NOT what is happening, except in your fevered head. It way too complicated a situation than your “both sides are bad BS” can cover. Possibly having the virus infect more is NOT the same as actually killing an infant. .
jrober38 Posted March 24, 2020 Posted March 24, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, B-Man said: Except that is NOT what is happening, except in your fevered head. It way too complicated a situation than your “both sides are bad BS” can cover. Possibly having the virus infect more is NOT the same as actually killing an infant. . Wait and see. Trump will reopen the economy in two weeks and he'll accept that the consequences of doing so will mean more people will die. They'll be making a choice, and it will involve choosing to kill more people than is necessary just to save the stock market. Edited March 24, 2020 by jrober38
3rdnlng Posted March 24, 2020 Posted March 24, 2020 Maybe Trump decides to get back to the new normal that includes taking more precautions while we work, and that prevents a lot more deaths from suicide and poverty than we will have from the virus.
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