B-Man Posted June 7, 2019 Posted June 7, 2019 On 6/7/2019 at 2:37 PM, KRC said: When you need to fabricate other people's opinions just so that you can complain, you have lost. Expand He came in with his preconceived bias. His attempt at glibness with his calling his viewpoint (my bias is liberty, science, and reason,) gives away his whole purpose. It is certain that he did not really attempt to see what the articles or videos said, why bother ? He knows that his bigoted narrative can't be wrong. . 1
row_33 Posted June 7, 2019 Posted June 7, 2019 only a total doosh would trumpet his worship of liberty/science/reason
BullBuchanan Posted June 7, 2019 Posted June 7, 2019 On 6/7/2019 at 2:34 PM, row_33 said: that is quite a leap into metaphysics and your little metanarrative there that's not reason or logic or science at least 4 levels of straw man in your comment please show some sign that you have reason and science and logic in your mind at all, pretty please?? Expand Those are some nice triple word scores you have there, unfortunately, the definitions aren't relevant at all. A zygote, embryo, or fetus is not a person any more than a tree is a house, a cow is a steak, or a piece of steel ore is a BMW. It's almost universal that different laws and regulations apply to materials and organisms in different states of existence, because as human being we can understand all of the above to be true. The issue comes when you start to involve religion, because then all of that basic understanding goes straight out the window in lieu of following stories in a book that most proponents probably haven't even read. Without religion, the amount of anti-choice proponents would probably not be statistically significant. 1
Nanker Posted June 7, 2019 Posted June 7, 2019 (edited) https://www.babycenter.com 14 weeks Your baby's kidneys are producing urine, and he releases it into the amniotic fluid. He can make facial expressions and may have discovered thumb-sucking. 15 weeks Your baby can see light that filters in from outside your womb, even though her eyelids are still shut. 16 weeks Your baby's sex may be detectable at your mid-pregnancy ultrasound, which typically happens between 16 and 20 weeks. 18 weeks If you haven't felt your baby move yet, you probably will in the next few weeks. It'll take a couple of weeks longer for other people to feel your baby's movements from the outside. 19 weeks Your baby can hear your heartbeat and sounds that come from outside your body, such as your partner's voice. Her skin is wrinkly and is covered by a protective, waxy coating. She measures about 6 inches from head to bottom and weighs about 8 1/2 ounces. 23 weeks Your baby's sense of movement has developed, so he can feel the motion if you dance. His sense of hearing continues to improve. You may sometimes be able to see him squirming under the surface of your belly. 24 weeks Your baby's taste buds are developing. Her brain is growing very quickly, and her hair may be growing, too. She's almost a foot long and weighs just over a pound. 27 weeks Your baby's lungs are developing but won't be fully functional for several more weeks. He's "practicing" for life on the outside by inhaling and exhaling amniotic fluid, sleeping and waking up at regular intervals, opening and closing his eyes, and sucking his fingers. Third trimester 28 weeks Your baby may be dreaming. She has eyelashes, and her eyesight is improving. Billions of neurons are developing in her brain. She weighs about 2 1/4 pounds and is about 15 inches long, head to heel. 32 weeks He's grown cute little fingernails and toenails. Your baby is also starting to plump up in preparation for birth. He's almost 17 inches long (head to heel) and weighs about 3 3/4 pounds. 34 weeks Your baby's lungs and central nervous system are continuing to develop. Her skin has become soft and smooth, and she's filling out and getting even rounder. She's almost 18 inches long and weighs about 4 3/4 pounds. 37 weeks Your baby is now considered "early term." Babies born now usually do well, but ideally he'll stay in your womb for a couple more weeks to give his brain and lungs time to fully mature. 39 weeks Your baby is now considered full-term and is ready for life outside the womb. The average weight of a newborn is about 7 1/2 pounds, and the average length is about 20 inches. 41 weeks You've passed your due date and your baby is now considered "late term." (If you're still pregnant at 42 weeks, she's "post term.") Your baby's health may be monitored with tests such as a nonstress test or biophysical profile. To avoid complications, your doctor will probably talk to you about inducing labor in the next week or two. Not sure if it's really a human, are you. Edited June 7, 2019 by Nanker 1
Deranged Rhino Posted June 7, 2019 Posted June 7, 2019 On 6/7/2019 at 2:50 PM, BullBuchanan said: Without religion, the amount of anti-choice proponents would probably not be statistically significant. Expand Then again, science has given people a greater understanding of the development of a fetus into a human baby while in the womb. Science has provided images which allow people to see exactly how alive that "piece of steel" is inside their bodies. ... But sure, put it all on religion like one who believes in "liberty" does.
BullBuchanan Posted June 7, 2019 Posted June 7, 2019 On 6/7/2019 at 2:59 PM, Deranged Rhino said: Then again, science has given people a greater understanding of the development of a fetus into a human baby while in the womb. Science has provided images which allow people to see exactly how alive that "piece of steel" is inside their bodies. ... But sure, put it all on religion like one who believes in "liberty" does. Expand Sure, that's cute at all, but it's not relevant. It's not a person. You can watch a BMW being made in the shop and at a certain point it can look like a car, but you can't drive it. Everything has to have parameters
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted June 7, 2019 Posted June 7, 2019 On 6/7/2019 at 2:56 PM, Nanker said: https://www.babycenter.com 14 weeks Your baby's kidneys are producing urine, and he releases it into the amniotic fluid. He can make facial expressions and may have discovered thumb-sucking. 15 weeks Your baby can see light that filters in from outside your womb, even though her eyelids are still shut. 16 weeks Your baby's sex may be detectable at your mid-pregnancy ultrasound, which typically happens between 16 and 20 weeks. 18 weeks If you haven't felt your baby move yet, you probably will in the next few weeks. It'll take a couple of weeks longer for other people to feel your baby's movements from the outside. 19 weeks Your baby can hear your heartbeat and sounds that come from outside your body, such as your partner's voice. Her skin is wrinkly and is covered by a protective, waxy coating. She measures about 6 inches from head to bottom and weighs about 8 1/2 ounces. 23 weeks Your baby's sense of movement has developed, so he can feel the motion if you dance. His sense of hearing continues to improve. You may sometimes be able to see him squirming under the surface of your belly. 24 weeks Your baby's taste buds are developing. Her brain is growing very quickly, and her hair may be growing, too. She's almost a foot long and weighs just over a pound. 27 weeks Your baby's lungs are developing but won't be fully functional for several more weeks. He's "practicing" for life on the outside by inhaling and exhaling amniotic fluid, sleeping and waking up at regular intervals, opening and closing his eyes, and sucking his fingers. Third trimester 28 weeks Your baby may be dreaming. She has eyelashes, and her eyesight is improving. Billions of neurons are developing in her brain. She weighs about 2 1/4 pounds and is about 15 inches long, head to heel. 32 weeks He's grown cute little fingernails and toenails. Your baby is also starting to plump up in preparation for birth. He's almost 17 inches long (head to heel) and weighs about 3 3/4 pounds. 34 weeks Your baby's lungs and central nervous system are continuing to develop. Her skin has become soft and smooth, and she's filling out and getting even rounder. She's almost 18 inches long and weighs about 4 3/4 pounds. 37 weeks Your baby is now considered "early term." Babies born now usually do well, but ideally he'll stay in your womb for a couple more weeks to give his brain and lungs time to fully mature. 39 weeks Your baby is now considered full-term and is ready for life outside the womb. The average weight of a newborn is about 7 1/2 pounds, and the average length is about 20 inches. 41 weeks You've passed your due date and your baby is now considered "late term." (If you're still pregnant at 42 weeks, she's "post term.") Your baby's health may be monitored with tests such as a nonstress test or biophysical profile. To avoid complications, your doctor will probably talk to you about inducing labor in the next week or two. Not sure if it's really a human, are you. Expand Are migrants humans? Hypocrite
Deranged Rhino Posted June 7, 2019 Posted June 7, 2019 On 6/7/2019 at 3:02 PM, BullBuchanan said: Sure, that's cute at all, but it's not relevant. Expand It's entirely relevant and makes your argument that if not for religion people wouldn't care moot. But keep on bashing religion. That's what liberty means to you after all.
BullBuchanan Posted June 7, 2019 Posted June 7, 2019 On 6/7/2019 at 2:59 PM, Deranged Rhino said: Then again, science has given people a greater understanding of the development of a fetus into a human baby while in the womb. Science has provided images which allow people to see exactly how alive that "piece of steel" is inside their bodies. ... But sure, put it all on religion like one who believes in "liberty" does. Expand You have your right to believe in religion, and live in a way that accords with it, as long as it doesn't infringe on the rights of someone else to live theirs. On 6/7/2019 at 3:04 PM, Deranged Rhino said: It's entirely relevant and makes your argument that if not for religion people wouldn't care moot. But keep on bashing religion. That's what liberty means to you after all. Expand Being able to bash religion is EXACTLY what liberty is, just as your right to believe in it is also EXACTLY what liberty is. Go ahead and tell people that having an abortion is wrong or morally bankrupt. That's your right. What isn't your right is supporting a cause that prevents them from exercising their own choice
B-Man Posted June 7, 2019 Posted June 7, 2019 On 6/7/2019 at 3:12 PM, Nanker said: 26CP/BM/BF/JA/BB? Expand No. just pure Bull............................... . 1 1
Gary M Posted June 7, 2019 Posted June 7, 2019 (edited) On 6/7/2019 at 3:03 PM, Tiberius said: Are migrants humans? Hypocrite Expand yes they are human, no they are not citizens of the USA. No one is trying to abort the migrants. But just like abortions, I don't want to pay for them! What's your point? Edited June 7, 2019 by Gary M 1
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted June 7, 2019 Posted June 7, 2019 On 6/7/2019 at 3:54 PM, Gary M said: yes they are human, no they are not citizens of the USA. No one is trying to abort the migrants. But just like abortions, I don't want to pay for them! What's your point? Expand Good, how about treating them like humans that need help? 1
Gary M Posted June 7, 2019 Posted June 7, 2019 On 6/7/2019 at 4:07 PM, Tiberius said: Good, how about treating them like humans that need help? Expand https://www.usglc.org/faq-violence-migration-and-u-s-assistance-to-central-america/ https://explorer.usaid.gov/cd/GTM
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted June 7, 2019 Posted June 7, 2019 On 6/7/2019 at 5:23 PM, Gary M said: https://www.usglc.org/faq-violence-migration-and-u-s-assistance-to-central-america/ https://explorer.usaid.gov/cd/GTM Expand Scapegoating people is not treating them with respect or in a civilized manner Immigration and Crime | American Immigration Council https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/topics/immigration-and-crime Sorry Trump, Immigration is Still Associated with Less Crime and Safer Communities. The presidential candidate's attempt to correlate immigration and crime is ...
Gary M Posted June 7, 2019 Posted June 7, 2019 On 6/7/2019 at 5:29 PM, Tiberius said: Scapegoating people is not treating them with respect or in a civilized manner Immigration and Crime | American Immigration Council https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/topics/immigration-and-crime Sorry Trump, Immigration is Still Associated with Less Crime and Safer Communities. The presidential candidate's attempt to correlate immigration and crime is … Expand Who did those links scapegoat?
njbuff Posted June 7, 2019 Posted June 7, 2019 Why a third trimester abortion is even a discussion is beyond me. The circumstances of the pregnancy are already long decided by the third trimester. Women have a chance to abort an unwanted pregnancy early on. Going thru the pregnancy and then all of a sudden late in the pregnancy they want to abort the baby? Let that sink in.
B-Man Posted June 7, 2019 Posted June 7, 2019 (edited) Gary................quit chasing the ?️ ?️ ?️ Biden Flips Again on Hyde Amendment, Now Supports Taxpayer Funded Abortions Biden caves to critics, will support federal funding for abortion one day after saying he was against it. Bullied into it by the Left U. Alabama May Return Massive Financial Gift Over Donor’s Abortion Remarks Only one narrative permitted . Edited June 7, 2019 by B-Man
row_33 Posted June 7, 2019 Posted June 7, 2019 i just learned today that the procedure isn't covered... through Biden Agonistes on the matter
3rdnlng Posted June 7, 2019 Posted June 7, 2019 On 6/7/2019 at 2:50 PM, BullBuchanan said: Those are some nice triple word scores you have there, unfortunately, the definitions aren't relevant at all. A zygote, embryo, or fetus is not a person any more than a tree is a house, a cow is a steak, or a piece of steel ore is a BMW. It's almost universal that different laws and regulations apply to materials and organisms in different states of existence, because as human being we can understand all of the above to be true. The issue comes when you start to involve religion, because then all of that basic understanding goes straight out the window in lieu of following stories in a book that most proponents probably haven't even read. Without religion, the amount of anti-choice proponents would probably not be statistically significant. Expand Dumbass hasn't even heard of a treehouse.
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