BringBackOrton Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 On 1/24/2019 at 8:52 PM, Hapless Bills Fan said: I think y'all should get pregnant and find out at 24 weeks you're carrying a baby with some birth defect that won't survive. Have fun while everyone points you out as a vile disgusting low life. Unlike you gemstones, I actually know two families who went through that. "The law for the first time allows abortions after the 24-week mark to protect the mother’s health or in cases where the fetus won’t survive. Previously, abortions after that point were permitted only to preserve a mother’s life." I know some families who went through that to. They delivered and held their baby for as long as they could before it passed. ”Normalizing” abortion is wrong. It really really is. Look at how the culture has changed in the last 20 years. We went from safe, legal and rare to celebrities saying they wished they had abortions to express their rights. It’s gross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 19 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: I know some families who went through that to. They delivered and held their baby for as long as they could before it passed. ”Normalizing” abortion is wrong. It really really is. Look at how the culture has changed in the last 20 years. We went from safe, legal and rare to celebrities saying they wished they had abortions to express their rights. It’s gross. Hooray progressivism. It's a disease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 Doctor Who Has Delivered Nearly 4,000 Babies Torches New York Abortion Law Dr. William Lile, a board certified obstetrician-gynecologist, has issued a blistering condemnation of New York state's recently passed state law which allows abortion up until birth. As noted by Lifesite's Calvin Freiburger, Dr. Wile says that "modern medical technology is already giving preborn babies blood transfusions, heart surgery, and more." Many of these surgeries can occur at 22 weeks in the womb, the Alabama and Florida licensed practitioner said. Thus, “If they're a patient they're a person, and if they are a person they deserve our protection." But, New York's bill states that “Every individual who becomes pregnant has the fundamental right to choose to carry the pregnancy to term, to give birth to a child, or to have an abortion.” The new law also "erases the state’s recognition of preborn babies older than 24 weeks as potential homicide victims, removes abortion from the penal code entirely, and allows licensed health practitioners other than full doctors to commit abortions." None of that seems to matter New York Democrats who celebrated the passage of the bill by clapping and smiling in the state house upon its passage. Dr. Wile responded to these cheers by saying, “Celebrating what? The governor just signed a law saying that we can take the lives of the babies in the womb up until their due date. That's nothing to celebrate...To take the lives of these babies in the womb breaks my heart. It is not good for us and is not good for America." https://townhall.com/tipsheet/timothymeads/2019/01/27/doctor-who-has-delivered-nearly-4-000-babies-torches-new-york-abortion-law-n2540284 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albwan Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 ...we should be happy the left stops at this, they could push for abortions up to 18, provided they are wearing maga hats.(and maybe get it if they pull the 'right' judge) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pre-persons This guy was a latter-day prophet. his vision of the future doesn't seem so ridiculous any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 14 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pre-persons This guy was a latter-day prophet. his vision of the future doesn't seem so ridiculous any more. I support this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 How can anyone NOT be disgusted by this? So does this also mean that a person who murders a pregnant women can only be charged for one murder now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, njbuff said: How can anyone NOT be disgusted by this? So does this also mean that a person who murders a pregnant women can only be charged for one murder now? In my much younger years, this kind of stuff used to infuriate me. I would watch people happily, joyfully do things which flew in the face of anything I considered to be human decency. The fury came from being helpless to change what was happening. Then I learned patience. The depraved people who lobbied for, and voted for, this law will have to answer for it one day...one way or another. When that happens, it's important not to be happy or joyful about their demise, because in the process of our being patient, they will leave a lot of dead bodies in their wake. It will be their final legacy on this planet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 47 minutes ago, LABillzFan said: In my much younger years, this kind of stuff used to infuriate me. I would watch people happily, joyfully do things which flew in the face of anything I considered to be human decency. The fury came from being helpless to change what was happening. Then I learned patience. The depraved people who lobbied for, and voted for, this law will have to answer for it one day...one way or another. When that happens, it's important not to be happy or joyful about their demise, because in the process of our being patient, they will leave a lot of dead bodies in their wake. It will be their final legacy on this planet. My friend, I will never understand the passing of this law and gleeful cheering that went on in Albany when they passed it. It is way above my head as I do not understand it at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numark3 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 I would never cheer the law, though I am in favor of it. I think, if you are actually trying to understand the cheering, it is symbolic. The cheering is for women's rights, cheers against laws against women, etc. It isn't for the abortion of fetuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, Crayola64 said: I would never cheer the law, though I am in favor of it. I think, if you are actually trying to understand the cheering, it is symbolic. The cheering is for women's rights, cheers against laws against women, etc. It isn't for the abortion of fetuses. Load. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numark3 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 13 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: Load. big or lil'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 16 minutes ago, Crayola64 said: I would never cheer the law, though I am in favor of it. I think, if you are actually trying to understand the cheering, it is symbolic. The cheering is for women's rights, cheers against laws against women, etc. It isn't for the abortion of fetuses. Half of the fetuses are woman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numark3 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 1 minute ago, keepthefaith said: Half of the fetuses are woman. But you understand, for pro-choice people, these laws are representative of progression. The cheers are for that, not actively cheering about aborting fetuses. IMO of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 10 minutes ago, Crayola64 said: But you understand, for pro-choice people, these laws are representative of progression. The cheers are for that, not actively cheering about aborting fetuses. IMO of course They are cheering over "power" they gained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 On 1/24/2019 at 8:52 PM, Hapless Bills Fan said: I think y'all should get pregnant and find out at 24 weeks you're carrying a baby with some birth defect that won't survive. Have fun while everyone points you out as a vile disgusting low life. Unlike you gemstones, I actually know two families who went through that. "The law for the first time allows abortions after the 24-week mark to protect the mother’s health or in cases where the fetus won’t survive. Previously, abortions after that point were permitted only to preserve a mother’s life." I know 3 whose moms were told they had a probable chance of a defect and they were fine, thank goodness their moms didn’t listen to nonsense i also know a half dozen who went through with a known problem and are committed to raising the child, a few with more than one child with needs. A stronger faith and love than I believe I could ever muster up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 9 hours ago, LABillzFan said: When that happens, it's important not to be happy or joyful about their demise, because in the process of our being patient, they will leave a lot of dead bodies in their wake. It will be their final legacy on this planet. That's an interesting viewpoint. I'm gonna have to chew on that a while. 6 hours ago, Crayola64 said: But you understand, for pro-choice people, these laws are representative of progression. The cheers are for that, not actively cheering about aborting fetuses. IMO of course Progression for the sake of progression isn't progress. That's why I categorically reject calling these people progressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Joe in Winslow said: Progression for the sake of progression isn't progress. That's why I categorically reject calling these people progressive. If you are walking down a country road and see a pig on the other side of the fence and he says he is a cow, he is still a pig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 11 minutes ago, row_33 said: If you are walking down a country road and see a pig on the other side of the fence and he says he is a cow, he is still a pig all while probably wearing lipstick and wanting to choose which bathroom they want to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, Foxx said: all while probably wearing lipstick and wanting to choose which bathroom they want to use. talking would be miracle enough, or maybe I’ve gone cuckoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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