Josh Allen has been working with Jordan Palmer with McDermott's blessing

[oldmanfan]

Palmer is coaching Allen and helping him.  All stop.

 

Quit acknowledging the one poster.  You don't  continue trying to reason with a child having a temper tantrum, you ignore it.

[#34fan]

15 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said:

yeah, stupid and brain dead are not the same, are they. I wouldn't call you either but one thing I have noticed since you started polluting this thread is that you whine a lot. are you a whiner?

 

yes, I do believe you are.

 

Maybe.   -But I'm not a liar.

 

By the way,  -That "brain dead" thing?

 

-Also false.

[K-9]

6 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

Palmer is coaching Allen and helping him.  All stop.

 

Quit acknowledging the one poster.  You don't  continue trying to reason with a child having a temper tantrum, you ignore it.

Best advice in the thread. I hadn’t read all of his offerings before I engaged him. Had I done that first, I never would have wasted my time.

[Warcodered]

34 minutes ago, #34fan said:

 

I'm glad Josh is in the film room...   I'd still like it if Palmer got a real job....  Trent Dilfer is coaching High School, for crying out loud....

 

If Palmer gets on OBD's payroll, and has a positive effect on Josh from there,  I'd be impressed.

If he was on OBD's payroll he wouldn't have this kind of access to Allen in the offseason.

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

8 hours ago, JaCrispy said:

just checking in to see how the dick waving contest is going ??

 

...pretty sad when a thread about your QB working hard in the off season goes off the rails....SMH.....low estrogen levels I guess.............

[transplantbillsfan]

1 hour ago, #34fan said:

 

 

I think you tell far too many lies to be the moral compass of this board....

 

You lied about me hating Josh Allen, and you lied about me hating the Bills.

 

It's no surprise, you're now lying about me calling someone "stupid".

 

If you're "intelligent contribution" to the thread is little more than a pile of horse****

 

then what leg are you standing on?

 

Lied about you calling someone stupid...?

 

3 hours ago, #34fan said:

 

Yikes!..This isn't a post, -It's evidence of traumatic brain injury...  Sounds like you had a helmet-to-helmet with no helmet. 

 

 

Okay then...

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

2 hours ago, #34fan said:

 

 Not fair... Your brain damage is evident at this point. 

 

You keep bringing up a point that I never made, in an argument about something that's not negotiable for me.

 

I'm not excited about Palmer working with Allen.   -IMO, he doesn't have the kind of experience that inspires confidence. 

 

Period.

 

You could spread the reasons for that over a wide area... Do Palmer's lousy pro and college careers bother me? -Of course... But mostly because of his lack of league coaching experience... You could also look at other Jordan Alumni like Bortles, and Hackenberg…  Again, -not inspiring confidence.

 

Is Palmer better than nothing?  -Maybe not.  I'm not willing to grant him anything until I see September's product.

 

 

51 minutes ago, #34fan said:

 

Maybe.   -But I'm not a liar.

 

By the way,  -That "brain dead" thing?

 

-Also false.

you're right, my bad. it was brain damage. far from stupid and brain dead, eh

[#34fan]

2 hours ago, Warcodered said:

If he was on OBD's payroll he wouldn't have this kind of access to Allen in the offseason.

 

It's that access that's got me concerned... Something unlikely to change anytime soon.

 

1 hour ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said:

you're right, my bad. it was brain damage. far from stupid and brain dead, eh

 

Say what I said. -How hard is that?

 

1 hour ago, transplantbillsfan said:

Okay then...

 

See above… I never called the man stupid... He's not acting all butt-hurt and whiny... Why are you?

 

 

[transplantbillsfan]

5 hours ago, #34fan said:

 

See above… I never called the man stupid... He's not acting all butt-hurt and whiny... Why are you?

 

 

 

These semantics don't fly anywhere.

 

Saying someone has had a traumatic brain injury or that they sound like they had a helmet to helmet with no helmet is simply a loquacious way of obviously calling them stupid.

 

You're smart enough to understand that, right?

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

15 hours ago, #34fan said:

 

 

 Wow. That's a little low..... I  thought we stopped putting people out there to get blasted by mods... It's a  harmless animated conversation featuring a few jabs...

 

I'm not hurt... -Is anybody hurt???  -We're just talking, here...

 

 

E tu?   Wow, you guys are shaaaady…. -I thought we were just talking for crying out loud.

 

LMAO.

 

Its harmless when people friendly with each other do it.   

 

And leave me out of your conversations.  (all I posted on this was that people should report abusive behavior or use the ignore feature - I don't believe I called anyone out specifically)  

 

Edited January 28, 2019 by ShadyBillsFan

[transplantbillsfan]

 

This would be a pretty awesome move, I think.  Unlike Culley, Palmer played QB and has recent experience independently coaching up the position. 

 

Plus, since he isn't currently a coach of ours, he hasn't been breaking any rules in the CBA in working with Allen despite the fact that McDermott said that he would make sure “we’ll be in touch with Jordan and make sure we’ll in sync with stuff as much as possible in terms of terminology, technique, things that we feel like he’ll need to work on."

 

McDermott you are a sly fox if you put off hiring Palmer until after he's done working with Allen 

[Buffalo716]

5 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

This would be a pretty awesome move, I think.  Unlike Culley, Palmer played QB and has recent experience independently coaching up the position. 

 

Plus, since he isn't currently a coach of ours, he hasn't been breaking any rules in the CBA in working with Allen despite the fact that McDermott said that he would make sure “we’ll be in touch with Jordan and make sure we’ll in sync with stuff as much as possible in terms of terminology, technique, things that we feel like he’ll need to work on."

 

McDermott you are a sly fox if you put off hiring Palmer until after he's done working with Allen 

David Culley was a D1 QB at Vanderbilt...

[transplantbillsfan]

2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

David Culley was a D1 QB at Vanderbilt...

 

Okay my bad.

 

He played QB in college and then worked with WRs and other aspects of the offense for 17 years in the NFL before randomly becoming our QB coach.

 

At least Palmer had 7 years in the NFL as a QB somewhere on the depth chart of an NFL team and has been working for years coaching up young QBs.

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

...I would think Palmer makes a decent buck as a free lance teacher based on his own schedule versus the rigors of being tied down to an NFL coaching job.....seems to have a decent client base as well......not sure why he would change and surrender his working freedom......

[NickelCity]

Hope losing Culley doesn't hurt JA. Didn't expect him to get hired away. 

[Mat68]

I dont believe this would be a wise move.  For Buffalo or for Palmer.  Hiring a coach because of their relationship with a player makes little sense.  Imo the QB coach needs to be the interpreter of the offense and Co Ordinator to the Qb.  Idk, with the current Qb room of Allen, Barkley and Anderson if a QBs coach is even necessary.  Daboll, and McDermott should be the voices and figures in the development of Allen.  I'm sure Daboll could handle the QBs in a positional meeting setting.  In terms of Palmer, you are limited in your access to the players.  The amount of work required from a day to day, week to week standpoint as a positional coach will not results in an increase of pay.  If Palmer wants to be a head coach or become a coach I see the opportunity, but would assume he would have pursued those at the completion of his career.  I like the idea of having a guy to help Allen during the time when teams are limited in their access.

Edited January 29, 2019 by Mat68

[Beast]

1 minute ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

...I would think Palmer makes a decent buck as a free lance teacher based on his own schedule versus the rigors of being tied down to an NFL coaching job.....seems to have a decent client base as well......not sure why he would change and surrender his working freedom......

 

Unless he sees it as a stepping stone.

[3rdand12]

17 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

This would be a pretty awesome move, I think.  Unlike Culley, Palmer played QB and has recent experience independently coaching up the position. 

 

Plus, since he isn't currently a coach of ours, he hasn't been breaking any rules in the CBA in working with Allen despite the fact that McDermott said that he would make sure “we’ll be in touch with Jordan and make sure we’ll in sync with stuff as much as possible in terms of terminology, technique, things that we feel like he’ll need to work on."

 

McDermott you are a sly fox if you put off hiring Palmer until after he's done working with Allen 

Good post. I even agree with the last sentence. very nifty work by Bills with this Bellicheckian  fair play with Palmer

 Bravo McBeanes

2 minutes ago, NickelCity said:

Hope losing Culley doesn't hurt JA. Didn't expect him to get hired away. 

Perhaps McBeane knew ?

[Buffalo716]

9 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

Okay my bad.

 

He played QB in college and then worked with WRs and other aspects of the offense for 17 years in the NFL before randomly becoming our QB coach.

 

At least Palmer had 7 years in the NFL as a QB somewhere on the depth chart of an NFL team and has been working for years coaching up young QBs.

Football coaches are football coaches. You go with the money. He was a QB coach who turned WR coach

 

Culley is an offensive football coach. He knows plenty about the QB position ... it’s not like he was a DB specialist 

 

Andy Reid is a “QB guru” who never played QB... was an oline coach by trade and then QB coach for a few seasons ... he knows how to coach offense

 

Every single person around Culley vouches that he’s an amazing coach. Whether QB or WR... he was great for Allen’s development 

Edited January 29, 2019 by Buffalo716

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

Just now, Binghamton Beast said:

 

Unless he sees it as a stepping stone.

 

...good call bud...he's young enough at 34 to continue on the way he is doing and eventually jump into the coaching ranks later at some point.....boils down to personal decision and landscape.....