LabattBlue Posted January 22, 2019 Posted January 22, 2019 (edited) Clearly they can't enforce it by the letter of the law. Much like there is OL holding on every play, there is hand fighting on every pass play between the DB and the WR. If they allow that ticky tack stuff to be reviewed and enforced, teams will save their challenges for the 4th quarter, heave bombs, and if no catch or no flag, throw the challenge for a potential 40-50 yard gain. It is somehow going to have to be written in the rules that the PI has to be blatant(good luck defining that). They may regret going down the road of opening up replay challenges to more plays than currently allowed. Edited January 23, 2019 by LabattBlue
skibum Posted January 22, 2019 Posted January 22, 2019 ... They will make football unwatchable. Bad calls are part of the game, and there's already too much video review slowing things down. Harrumph. 5 1
cage Posted January 22, 2019 Posted January 22, 2019 Can make PI replays only through a booth review as requested by replay assistant. Perhaps only in the last 5 min of a game?? 1
ProcessAccepted Posted January 22, 2019 Posted January 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, skibum said: ... They will make football unwatchable. Bad calls are part of the game, and there's already too much video review slowing things down. Harrumph. I agree that bad calls are part of the game but the trend towards the same teams/players routinely benefiting from these calls is making the game unwatchable as well. 7 1 2
Royale with Cheese Posted January 22, 2019 Posted January 22, 2019 The blown call wasn’t tricky tack. It was a blatant PI. They have to do something to get it right, especially late. I don’t mind an extra 10 minutes in a game for reviews if a game as big as Sunday’s doesn’t end in controversy. 1
LabattBlue Posted January 22, 2019 Author Posted January 22, 2019 Just now, Royale with Cheese said: The blown call wasn’t tricky tack. It was a blatant PI. They have to do something to get it right, especially late. I don’t mind an extra 10 minutes in a game for reviews if a game as big as Sunday’s doesn’t end in controversy. Did I say that?
Rc2catch Posted January 22, 2019 Posted January 22, 2019 The conspiracy theorists may hate it but I think it should only be able to be challenged or reviewed if the officials call for it, like they get in their huddle, Jim says “I didn’t see it the blonde in row 2 has a huge rack” frank says “yeah I was looking at her too” billy says “I was looking for my inhaler I’m winded” then they can decide they need a better look at the play. In all seriousness there’s a lot of plays that happen so fast and so many things for officials to watch for I would rather they be able to decide they didn’t get a good look at the play and review it rather than coaches be able to As for that saints game, I think it’s kinda babyish to see people upset over that one play. The refs did what a lot of us asked that game, they let them play. Both sides got away with murder more than once, the officials for that game really decided to let the teams play and stay out of it. The saints got away with a lot of stuff as well, including the play clock that’s been widely mentioned how many times they ran plays at 00 on the clock. I was cheering for both teams since I can’t stand NE or KC I just want an NFC team to win it and I can cheer for Brees or Woods whoever made it in. But the PI was interference but I actually respect the refs for keeping the whistle in their pocket. They let both teams play hard all game they can’t just decide to change the way they call the game at the end.
Kirby Jackson Posted January 22, 2019 Posted January 22, 2019 It works fine in Canada. The goal is to be right. We are WAY past the point that we should allow the amount of human error that we do in sports. In tennis they can see if a ball is in or out by a millimeter in 3 seconds. Technology has changed things. We need to find a way to get it right and go with it. 5
Just Joshin' Posted January 22, 2019 Posted January 22, 2019 If only the refs were full time the results would be better.
CaptnCoke11 Posted January 22, 2019 Posted January 22, 2019 4+ games. The league is already a joke. Might as well make it worse
yungmack Posted January 22, 2019 Posted January 22, 2019 I think the Head Coach should be allowed to challenge every single play but would be limited to 3 challenges total for the game, OT included.
SinceThe70s Posted January 22, 2019 Posted January 22, 2019 35 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: Clearly they can't enforce it by the letter of the law. Much like there is OL holding on every play, there is hand fighting on every pass play between the DB and the WR. If they allow that ticky tack stuff to be reviewed and enforced, teams will save their challenges for the 4th quarter, heave bombs, and if no catch or no flag, throw the challenge for a potential 40-50 yard gain. It is somehow going to have to be written in the rules that the PI has to be blatant(good luck defining that). They may regret going down the road of opening up replay challenges to more plays than currently allowed. Instant relay started with the same premise - to only overturn the blatant missed calls. But once Pandora's Box was opened there was no turning back and now we're left with a system that is dealing in minutia with super slo mo and pretty impressive quality when they zoom in. The fact that ex-refs have become a fixture in the broadcast booth is a sad indication of where we are at with instant replay. I don't think there's any doubt that they'll introduce some sort of limited review of penalties next year, but once they get a toe in the door it won't be long until the door gets kicked in. Wish I had an answer as to how to fix the system. The need for instant replay to correct the blatant bad call is obvious.
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted January 22, 2019 Posted January 22, 2019 39 minutes ago, skibum said: ... They will make football unwatchable. Bad calls are part of the game, and there's already too much video review slowing things down. Harrumph. .every game will become a three part mini series and alcoholism will increase by 42%............ 1 2
quinnearlysghost88 Posted January 22, 2019 Posted January 22, 2019 I'm of the mind to allow holding and pass interference. Allow linemen to hold each other. Allow DBs to hold WRs. Allow them to battle. Throw away this idea of hands off. Penalties will reduce greatly (imagine no more illegal hands, 5 yards, automatic first down). Just let them play. We ALWAYS appreciate it when they let them play. Why not just go full tilt. Players and teams will adapt. They just will. They'll learn to break off the line differently. They'll learn to beat holds. They'll learn to run different plays and patterns. It will be okay. 1
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted January 22, 2019 Posted January 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, NewEra said: Use technology. Wake the **** up ...GPS, lasers, irradiated shoe prints, CT scans, camera in all helmets, "black boxes" in every player's shorts, LED footballs, pressure sensitive sidelines.....I'm liking this......hire George Lucas.....
Royale with Cheese Posted January 22, 2019 Posted January 22, 2019 13 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: Did I say that? In your 3rd sentence you mentioned “if they allow to ticky tack stuff to be reviewed...” I think it’s a safe assumption which play in particular this thread is referring to.
4_kidd_4 Posted January 22, 2019 Posted January 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, NewEra said: Use technology. Wake the **** up Agree. I’d start with some type of chip inside the ball to eliminate bad spots. Next, lets get those “360” cameras in all stadiums to maximize angles for replay calls. They sometimes use them in broadcasts to show cool replays. Let’s apply that practically.
Augie Posted January 22, 2019 Posted January 22, 2019 Technically, what NRC did was PI. But it was of a different class. I get that the hand play will make for muddy waters, but a line was crossed there. By a country mile.
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