teef Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 On 1/17/2019 at 2:09 PM, Royale with Cheese said: Can you tie a cherry stem in your mouth? Expand i can tie a garden hose in my mouth. 6
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 On 1/17/2019 at 2:07 PM, Royale with Cheese said: Expand Yup. We would totally say Jackson had a better year than Allen if he completed 52% of his passes, for more tds than ints, had a 67 QBs rating, and a losing record. You guys are so objective! On 1/17/2019 at 2:12 PM, teef said: i can tie a garden hose in my mouth. Expand On 1/17/2019 at 2:06 PM, teef said: i think allen will have a better career because he's more of a qb. they may very well both end up being lousy qbs, but i just don't understand how you can build an offense around jackon. what do i know though. Expand Yeah, I would probably bet that too. Both will be gameplan we next year to stay in the pocket and bet teams with their arms. Allen has the better arm so I like his chances better.
teef Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 On 1/17/2019 at 2:17 PM, C.Biscuit97 said: Yup. We would totally say Jackson had a better year than Allen if he completed 52% of his passes, for more tds than ints, had a 67 QBs rating, and a losing record. You guys are so objective! Expand really? i have no idea why you try so hard to tear down players on the team you're a fan of. no reasonable fan would think jackson was more productive than allen. i've seen you do this regarding allen before. when allen was first on the team, you kept questioning why wyoming's record wasn't better with allen considering they had the 9th ranked defense. you kept quoting the 9th ranked defense. they weren't ranked 9th...they were ranked in the 20s. when asked where the 9 ranking came from, you simply looked up the best stat on wyoming's defense which was 9th, and stated it was their overall ranking. cherry picker galore. why bother? just be honest. 3 3
Bill from NYC Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 On 1/17/2019 at 11:00 AM, Doc Brown said: Foster really only played a prominent starting role in seven games and put up 27 receptions, 541 yards, and 3 TD's. He put more yards up in one season with the Bills than three with Alabama. It boggles my mind that he wasn't more productive at Alabama or why he didn't transfer schools. Expand Doc, there were much better players at skill positions when he was there, and Saban used to favor the running game.
Doc Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 On 1/17/2019 at 2:23 PM, Bill from NYC said: Doc, there were much better players at skill positions when he was there, and Saban used to favor the running game. Expand I also heard he had some injuries which pushed him down the depth chart. 1
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 On 1/17/2019 at 2:20 PM, teef said: really? i have no idea why you try so hard to tear down players on the team you're a fan of. no reasonable fan would think jackson was more productive than allen. i've seen you do this regarding allen before. when allen was first on the team, you kept questioning why wyoming's record wasn't better with allen considering they had the 9th ranked defense. you kept quoting the 9th ranked defense. they weren't ranked 9th...they were ranked in the 20s. when asked where the 9 ranking came from, you simply looked up the best stat on wyoming's defense which was 9th, and stated it was their overall ranking. cherry picker galore. why bother? just be honest. Expand that member is pretty notable for pissing on the parade around here. cuddles up to other teams players and degrades those of the team it is supposedly a fan of. there's a few around this joint like that. but it's all in the stats, LOL 2 1
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 On 1/17/2019 at 2:20 PM, teef said: really? i have no idea why you try so hard to tear down players on the team you're a fan of. no reasonable fan would think jackson was more productive than allen. i've seen you do this regarding allen before. when allen was first on the team, you kept questioning why wyoming's record wasn't better with allen considering they had the 9th ranked defense. you kept quoting the 9th ranked defense. they weren't ranked 9th...they were ranked in the 20s. when asked where the 9 ranking came from, you simply looked up the best stat on wyoming's defense which was 9th, and stated it was their overall ranking. cherry picker galore. why bother? just be honest. Expand Haha. I was called a homer. oMG! ESPN ranked a qb who helped his team get to the playoffs with a better qb rating and better td to int ratio higher than our qb who had a 67.9 qb rating. It’s a conspiracy and obviously ESPN just hates the Bills. I cant believe I have questions about a team that went 6-10. I’m a hater! On 1/17/2019 at 2:29 PM, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: that member is pretty notable for pissing on the parade around here. cuddles up to other teams players and degrades those of the team it is supposedly a fan of. there's a few around this joint like that. but it's all in the stats, LOL Expand Who are you? Haha, I was called a homer for years here. Sorry, I didn’t love our 6-10 team this year. Stop being sensitive.
FLFan Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 These lists are meaningless. When it comes to QB's, I am very happy we do not have Jackson. Time will tell on Darnold. Mayfield looks good. Rosen - meh.
teef Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 On 1/17/2019 at 2:39 PM, C.Biscuit97 said: Haha. I was called a homer. oMG! ESPN ranked a qb who helped his team get to the playoffs with a better qb rating and better td to int ratio higher than our qb who had a 67.9 qb rating. It’s a conspiracy and obviously ESPN just hates the Bills. Expand i don't care about the list in the least as i already said. i also don't think you're a hater. i do think you go a bit out of your way to be critical of the bills, and you cherry pick stats to prove a point. not a big deal, but people are smart enough to figure it out. 1
Royale with Cheese Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 On 1/17/2019 at 2:17 PM, C.Biscuit97 said: Yup. We would totally say Jackson had a better year than Allen if he completed 52% of his passes, for more tds than ints, had a 67 QBs rating, and a losing record. You guys are so objective! Yeah, I would probably bet that too. Both will be gameplan we next year to stay in the pocket and bet teams with their arms. Allen has the better arm so I like his chances better. Expand I'm trying to figure out why you're so headstrong about this? This is a subjective topic. You want to criticize the player and the fan base and while box score scouting. It's like you're determined to make anything about Allen vs Jackson pro Jackson. 1
Jay_Fixit Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 On 1/17/2019 at 2:55 PM, Royale with Cheese said: I'm trying to figure out why you're so headstrong about this? This is a subjective topic. You want to criticize the player and the fan base and while box score scouting. It's like you're determined to make anything about Allen vs Jackson pro Jackson. Expand I bet he’s the type of guy to throw out the first pitch from halfway between the bump and home plate. 1
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 On 1/17/2019 at 2:39 PM, C.Biscuit97 said: Haha. I was called a homer. oMG! ESPN ranked a qb who helped his team get to the playoffs with a better qb rating and better td to int ratio higher than our qb who had a 67.9 qb rating. It’s a conspiracy and obviously ESPN just hates the Bills. I cant believe I have questions about a team that went 6-10. I’m a hater! Who are you? Haha, I was called a homer for years here. Sorry, I didn’t love our 6-10 team this year. Stop being sensitive. Expand don't credit yourself man. I'm far from sensitive. I was just pointing out the obvious. 2
dollars 2 donuts Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 On 1/17/2019 at 2:09 PM, Royale with Cheese said: Can you tie a cherry stem in your mouth? Expand Bow or Windosr? 1
Royale with Cheese Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 On 1/17/2019 at 3:00 PM, Jay_Fixit said: I bet he’s the type of guy to throw out the first pitch from halfway between the bump and home plate. Expand He's also probably the guy who slides head first at first base. On 1/17/2019 at 3:08 PM, dollars 2 donuts said: Bow or Windosr? Expand Double Windsor. 1
Doc Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 Like I said, if the Bills had Jackson, I’d be saying they drafted TT v2.0. I would love for Josh to have (had) Jackson’s offensive personnel around him. 1
Stank_Nasty Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) On 1/17/2019 at 2:53 PM, teef said: i don't care about the list in the least as i already said. i also don't think you're a hater. i do think you go a bit out of your way to be critical of the bills, and you cherry pick stats to prove a point. not a big deal, but people are smart enough to figure it out. Expand I've been lurking more than anything else lately.... doesn't it seem like he recently really put it into overdrive after allens strong finish? allen finishes out his 6 games showing progression and basically as a one man team and instead of optimism about said progress, he really kicks it into another gear he doubles down on the criticism..... whats up with that?? Edited January 17, 2019 by Stank_Nasty 1
Stank_Nasty Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) On 1/17/2019 at 3:18 PM, Doc said: Like I said, if the Bills had Jackson, I’d be saying they drafted TT v2.0. I would love for Josh to have (had) Jackson’s offensive personnel around him. Expand heck he went 5-6 with this team.... can you imagine what he would have done with that run game, guys like brown and crabtree outside, and the #1 scoring D behind him? Brown was having a nice year and the turn to Jackson basically rendered his game obsolete. Edited January 17, 2019 by Stank_Nasty 1
teef Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 On 1/17/2019 at 4:11 PM, Stank_Nasty said: I've been lurking more than anything else lately.... doesn't it seem like he recently really put it into overdrive after allens strong finish? allen finishes out his 6 games showing progression and basically as a one man team and instead of optimism about said progress, he really kicks it into another gear he doubles down on the criticism..... whats up with that?? Expand i honestly don't know. i'm not completely sold on allen yet either, but he did a lot of good after the return from injury. there's not need to over embellish his success, but there's no reason to twist it into a negative either.
ctk232 Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) On 1/17/2019 at 3:18 PM, Doc said: Like I said, if the Bills had Jackson, I’d be saying they drafted TT v2.0. I would love for Josh to have (had) Jackson’s offensive personnel around him. Expand Came here to read about Foster and Edmunds, wound up reading a Jackson v. Allen debate...but there ya go^ Jackson's entire game is predicated on the RPO and being a successful runner. Chargers were able to minimize this impact and forced him to be more one-dimensional in their second meeting. Credit where credit is due, the offensive scheme and approach by the Ravens with Jackson maximized his strengths and built upon his RPO scheme familiarity. Whether he can develop beyond that scheme, the offensive personnel is retained, and whether or not he succeeds in the NFL as a QB is entirely dependent on his performance next year. Unless they are able to evolve the scheme, it's likely that defenses will be able to effectively counter the Raven's RPO once enough tape is there. Many will attempt to replicate the Chargers' playoff model at first. While I don't say this in attempt to discredit Jackson (as he was the only rookie QB to make the playoffs), I question how much of it was Jackson vs. the rest of the team, and not having any real tape to study the scheme and player until the Chargers playoff meeting. That being said, I do think the Ravens had a better chance of winning that game with Flacco - even though I'm not a Flacco guy, still felt he gave them the best chance to win there. Edited January 17, 2019 by ctk232 1
Da webster guy Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 The fact that we desperately needed help at LB and WR and we have two very promising ones getting league-wide attention is enough for me man. Foster was a stroke of genius by Daboll. I think the kid has to have an all time record having more receiving yards in his NFL rookie season than all of his college yards combined. Too lazy to look it up but it's damn close I know that. I also know if you take the kids stats from week 10 on and look at what it would have been over a full 16 games, it's ELITE production. 2
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