Bill Murray Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 Would i do this? Yes. Would the Raiders do this? I think unlikely.
BuffaloHokie13 Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) I went with in a heartbeat, though if a premium player fell to 9 for some reason I definitely wouldn't. Based on the empirical trade value chart trading 9 for 24 & 27 is the Raiders paying a 16% premium, which is slightly high for a pick outside the top 5, historically. I guess what I mean to say is if we were on the clock and a premium player for us wasn't there I'd do it in a heartbeat. Well ahead of draft time I think I'd be looking for more though. Edited January 17, 2019 by BuffaloHokie13
mikemac2001 Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 I’d want there first next year in any trade down deal
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 I would expect either very few trades this year or extremely low value trades. The draft chart doesn't mean much this year. Very few teams need QBs, and there are very few QBs worth drafting high up. That drives the trade market. With the decreased emphasis on needing to get to the top, there will be fewer trades and the value will go down.
nucci Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 that point chart means nothing. just numbers someone made up
BuffaloRebound Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 Would not be surprised if Gruden makes a play for Murray or Haskins. Haskins at 4 at best pass rusher at 9. Or if Haskins goes before 4, best pass rusher at 4 and Murray at 9. Gruden is basically the owner of the Raiders and can do whatever he wants. And the fan base doesn’t matter because they don’t even have a home.
JMF2006 Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 24 and 27 plus this years third round or next years second round. I doubt they(Raiders) trade up but I see Beane trading down unless he really feels the 9th pick will be a future superstar
HappyDays Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, nucci said: that point chart means nothing. just numbers someone made up It's probably a good baseline but it changes year to year. This year there are no consensus top 10 QBs so we wouldn't get more than #24 and #27 in this scenario. I personally would do it without hesitation but I don't know who the Raiders would trade up for. If anything they would do it for a defensive player over a QB. They have the draft capital to afford a move like that.
BillsMafia13 Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 If theres no blue chippers definitely but work for a 1st next year. Since the first round is so top heavy with them, sign a premier DE/DT to give us some flexibility. Raiders will stink next year too so
Mojo44 Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 For me it all boils down to who is available at nine when the bills pick. The only way this works is that they make the trade literally at the last moment when the number nine pick is up or the player(s) they targeted at 9 are already gone. It does not always make sense to go all in on quantity versus quality in these situations.
Chuck Wagon Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 I see the Redskins as potentially the most likely trade partner. If the Raiders want a QB, the sensible thing to do is just pick him at #4, unless Jags / Giants move in front of them. The rumor today was the Redskins have begun talking to teams about moving in front of Denver to get a QB. Moving to 15, with Haskins / Murray / Lock / Jones all off the board by the time we hit the clock would be best case scenario IMO. 1
BillsFan1988 Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 16 hours ago, bigfootindy said: Very early, just hypothetical trade. Maybe the Raiders want a QB before the Broncos/Dolphins have a shot. Trade chart shows: Bills 9th: 1350 Raiders picks: 740 + 680 = 1420 (About a 5% premium) Thoughts? I say they kick in there 2nd (35) for our 3rd (75). So we get 24, 27 & 35 for 9, 75. 24- Christian Wilkins DT Clem 27- Marquise Brown Wr OKLA 35- TJ Hockenson TE Iowa 40- Hakeem Butler WR Iowa ST. Man this kind of draft can do wonders for our Future.
Alphadawg7 Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 You need more poll options. I mean it depends whose on the board at 9 IMO. But at first glance, I don’t like it. I would rather have a blue chip prospect than 2 riskier ones. We need talent, not more bodies. We have 10 picks already and tons of cap space to fill holes in FA. So give me talent and a more likely impact player.
LABILLBACKER Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 Gruden has made some dumb moves so far. Why not, but sweeten it with a 4th....
BillsFan1988 Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 15 hours ago, TPS said: They did this for their QB of the future (boy, did theirs come early!). I really don't think there's anyone at 9 the Raiders will want. If anything, I could see Gruden trading the Cards for the #1 pick to get Bosa. If MLB Devin White still available at #9 i can see the Raiders moving up for him. There's a 50/50 chance of DW being there.
freddyjj Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) If Quinnen Williams, Josh Allen or Clelin Ferrell are there at 9, I pass on pre-determined trade (like the Broncos last year did to us at #5 when they took Bradley Chubb who dropped). With Shaq and Jerry being potential FAs at end of 2019, adding an edge pass rusher is a much bigger priority than most think. And Q Williams will be a very disruptive 3T immediately and help on both run and pass downs. Edited January 17, 2019 by freddyjj 2
Augie Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 I think Gruden knows has has holes all over and needs as many picks as he can get. But you never know.....maybe if he fell in love with a QB who dropped? Any chance that could ever happen? Gruden is to QB’s what Rex is to feet! 1
Mark Vader Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 16 hours ago, bigfootindy said: Very early, just hypothetical trade. Maybe the Raiders want a QB before the Broncos/Dolphins have a shot. Trade chart shows: Bills 9th: 1350 Raiders picks: 740 + 680 = 1420 (About a 5% premium) Thoughts? Thank you! I've brought this up a few times before in previous threads. If the Bills decide to use the 9th pick on a player they feel is the best for the team, fine. However, if they were to trade down with the Raiders, I would love it. I think the Bills could use all of the picks they can get.
HappyDays Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 42 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said: I see the Redskins as potentially the most likely trade partner. If the Raiders want a QB, the sensible thing to do is just pick him at #4, unless Jags / Giants move in front of them. The rumor today was the Redskins have begun talking to teams about moving in front of Denver to get a QB. Moving to 15, with Haskins / Murray / Lock / Jones all off the board by the time we hit the clock would be best case scenario IMO. Yep this would be my target as well. Even better if they are competing with Denver. We could probably get a 2nd in this trade if we give back one of our 4ths. High 2nd round has a lot of value in this draft IMO.
Mark Vader Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 14 hours ago, 4merper4mer said: The Raiders don't want a QB at 4 but need one desperately at 9? Doesn't have to be a QB, could be a player that fills an important need. You know how Gruden "loves" every player he sees. He's crazy enough to do something like this.
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