CEN-CAL17 Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) #24 TE TJ Hockenson #27 RB Josh Jacobs #41 WR Hakeem Butler All contingent on they sign a stud FA Center and RT. 3rd round OG Edited January 17, 2019 by 1ZAYDAY1 3
The Now Moment Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, 1ZAYDAY1 said: #24 TE TJ Hockenson #27 RB Josh Jacobs #41 WR Hakeem Butler Now that’s interesting. You could even add another side receiver later in the draft.
rodneykm Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 I get that the chart says we get a premium, but I'm not feeling it. Maybe a 1st this year, 3rd and their 1st next year.
CEN-CAL17 Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, Buffalo30 said: Now that’s interesting. You could even add another side receiver later in the draft. Those 3 I grabbed could all be huge targets in the passing game. Not to mention Jacobs steps in right away knowing the system and is an amazing runner.
The Now Moment Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, 1ZAYDAY1 said: Those 3 I grabbed could all be huge targets in the passing game. Not to mention Jacobs steps in right away knowing the system and is an amazing runner. Even if Hakeem didn’t make it to 42, I think there will be plenty of wide receivers to choose from with the depth.
Swill Merchant Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 All damn day. This draft is deep but not terribly top heavy, and we're looking for multiple starters. I wouldn't even hesitate.
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) I would do it but would like more , 9th to 24th is a big drop. Edited January 17, 2019 by Buffalo Barbarian 3
cle23 Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 1 hour ago, RPbillsfan said: Fair trade factoring in a top 10 pick gets a 5 yr deal there would be a premium. Let's say a 3rd round pick which would be the 68th pick. We would be drafting 24, 27, 40, 64, 74 in the first three rounds. Plus have two picks in the 4th, 5th and 7th and one in the 6th. If we add a WR, OG, C, T and TE and maybe an OLB in free agency we could draft: 24 - Hakeem Butler - WR 27 - Dexter Lawrence - DT 40 - Irv Smith - TE 64 - Youdny Cajuste - OT 70 - Chris Lidstrom then in 4th round LB Kahil Hodge and RB Josh Jacobs thoughts please Every 1st rounder gets a 5 year deal, not just top 10. 1
4merper4mer Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 The Raiders don't want a QB at 4 but need one desperately at 9? 2 1
Dkollidas Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) I think trading down with a team like Washington is more realistic. With Alex Smith’s issues Recovering from surgery, they need to draft a guy of the future. Denver at #10 does as well. There could be teams looking at a guy like Drew Lock, Daniel Jones, or even Haskins if he slips, when we pick at #9 overall. A move like that could maybe get us a 2nd and a 3rd or 4th and allow us to really build up the roster. Edited January 17, 2019 by Dkollidas 2
CEN-CAL17 Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Buffalo30 said: Even if Hakeem didn’t make it to 42, I think there will be plenty of wide receivers to choose from with the depth. Preston Williams would be my next option. IMO top 5 WRs (not college, but nfl potential) DK Metcalf Kelvin Harmon NKeal Harry Hakeem Butler Preston Williams 13 minutes ago, Dkollidas said: I think trading down with a team like Washington is more realistic. With Alex Msith’s issues Recovering from surgery, they need to draft a guy of the future. Denver at #10 does as well. There could be teams looking at a guy like Drew Lock, Daniel Jones, or even Haskins if he slips, when we pick at #9 overall. A move like that could maybe get us a 2nd and a 3rd or 4th and allow us to really build up the roster. Yep to leapfrog Denver. Cincy and Miami could be in the running too.
Dkollidas Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, 1ZAYDAY1 said: Yep to leapfrog Denver. Cincy and Miami could be in the running too. Exactly. I’d look to go WR TE OL with the first 3 picks. In any order depending on the teams preference.
Misterbluesky Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 Make no mistake about it...the Beane Counter is moving down.
CEN-CAL17 Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Dkollidas said: Exactly. I’d look to go WR TE OL with the first 3 picks. In any order depending on the teams preference. I love TJ Hockenson as the best all around TE since Gronk. Potentially I think he’s better all around TE over OJ Howard who went 19 overall. I’d take Washingtons pick 15 and have zero issues grabbing Hockenson. He may not be flashy but I think him and Josh could connect. Plus grab a 3rd this year and next year. 1
Dkollidas Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 Just now, 1ZAYDAY1 said: I love TJ Hockenson as the best all around TE since Gronk. Potentially I think he’s better all around TE over OJ Howard who went 19 overall. I’d take Washingtons pick 15 and have zero issues grabbing Hockenson. He may not be flashy but I think him and Josh could connect. Plus grab a 3rd this year and next year. I’d be happy with any of Fant, Hockenson or Irv Smith if they take one in rounds 1 or 2. Then grab a receiver. Any of Harry, Butler, Marquise Brown, Metcalf, etc. I also think they look more for interior help than exterior. Between Trent Brown, Smith from Tampa, and Daryl Williams from Carolina, I think there’s more free agent help available at tackle. Not elite, but serviceable. They get their higher end RT in free agency, sign a decent level interior lineman, and then draft another interior lineman early. Defenses are trying to get more of a pass rush from the interior, and therefore The interior linemen are almost becoming just as valuable as the tackles.
cage Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, Misterbluesky said: Make no mistake about it...the Beane Counter is moving down. I'm definitely in favor of trading down and getting more, given all of our needs, but that depends on a bunch of things. Several teams could jump ahead of the Bills as well. If say 2-3 QBs were selected in the top 8, he might just sit there and have someone drop to him that he can't resist? Edited January 17, 2019 by cage
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 11 hours ago, bigfootindy said: Maybe the Raiders want a QB before the Broncos/Dolphins have a shot. Thoughts? Gruden wants to know can he get them in ‘six packs’.
mannc Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) 11 hours ago, Mark92 said: Well if you look at the #10 pick we gave to KC for the #27 and the following years 1st in 2017 then it may not be quite enough. I would do #9 for #24, #27 and a 2nd rounder. Turn 1 top ten pick into 3 probable starters. Yep. That’s not the way it works. 24 and 27 this year are worth more than 27 this year and a 1 next year from a team like KC. Next year’s picks are generally devalued by one round. The Raiders (even with a fool like Gruden) would never trade those three picks just to get to 9 in a so-so draft. Edited January 17, 2019 by mannc
billsredneck1 Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 36 minutes ago, cage said: I'm definitely in favor of trading down and getting more, given all of our needs, but that depends on a bunch of things. Several teams could jump ahead of the Bills as well. If say 2-3 QBs were selected in the top 8, he might just sit there and have someone drop to him that he can't resist? if josh allen makes it to 9....no way do i trade out.
Thurman#1 Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 12 hours ago, bigfootindy said: Very early, just hypothetical trade. Maybe the Raiders want a QB before the Broncos/Dolphins have a shot. Trade chart shows: Bills 9th: 1350 Raiders picks: 740 + 680 = 1420 (About a 5% premium) Thoughts? Generally in a crucial year like this one I figure you need impact guys and I don't trade down. This would bring in two firsts, so I'd strongly consider it. If there was someone high I thought might fall to #9 and I was desperate for, or if I thought there were exactly nine guys who were blue chippers and would help this team, I'd understand them turning it down. But I don't see Oakland offering a deal like this. 32 minutes ago, mannc said: That’s not the way it works. 24 and 27 this year are worth more than 27 this year and a 1 next year from a team like KC. Next year’s picks are generally devalued by one round. The Raiders (even with a fool like Gruden) would never trade those three picks just to get to 9 in a so-so draft. Yup.
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