B-Man Posted July 8, 2019 Posted July 8, 2019 More on the above.............. THOUGHTCRIME AMONG THE ELITE, COMMON SENSE AMONG THE ELECTORATE: Majority want citizenship question on census, 53%-32%. . 1
Tiberius Posted July 8, 2019 Posted July 8, 2019 2 hours ago, B-Man said: More on the above.............. THOUGHTCRIME AMONG THE ELITE, COMMON SENSE AMONG THE ELECTORATE: Majority want citizenship question on census, 53%-32%. . So? More people wanted Clinton as president
keepthefaith Posted July 8, 2019 Posted July 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: So? More people wanted Clinton as president Do you mean more persons?
Cinga Posted July 8, 2019 Posted July 8, 2019 10 hours ago, B-Man said: More on the above.............. THOUGHTCRIME AMONG THE ELITE, COMMON SENSE AMONG THE ELECTORATE: Majority want citizenship question on census, 53%-32%. . To some. ignorance is bliss... So if they ignore the illegal alien crisis, it will go away. But honest people want to know how many of them are here so we have a better idea what this mess is costing taxpayers and how many local elections are turned because of illegals voting. We recently learned that 490 thousand in California declined jury duty because they were admittedly, illegal. If that many declined, how many are there in that state? Jury duty is selected there by the voter rolls. How many illegals voted? I would wager at least enough to give Hillary that 3 million edge. Problem was, they were all in a state Trump wasn't going to win anyway. But what about other states too? Is this a systemic attempt to dilute the votes of REAL Americans? Rant over... 3 1
Buffalo_Gal Posted July 9, 2019 Posted July 9, 2019 (edited) Adding the AP article where that came from: link Edited July 9, 2019 by Buffalo_Gal 3
SoCal Deek Posted July 9, 2019 Posted July 9, 2019 9 hours ago, Tiberius said: So? More people wanted Clinton as president Yes, those that cast votes did. But that’s not how you become President. Are these basic concepts that hard to understand?
Tiberius Posted July 10, 2019 Posted July 10, 2019 On 7/8/2019 at 9:19 PM, SoCal Deek said: Yes, those that cast votes did. But that’s not how you become President. Are these basic concepts that hard to understand? You are not following the argument very well at all. If you follow the constitution, follow it. You can't cherry pick when you follow it. . “A federal judge in New York on Tuesday blocked the Department of Justice from changing its entire legal team handling a case on the census citizenship question in federal court in the state. Judge Jesse Furman found that DOJ’s motion did not address a procedural rule requiring them to provide a reason for the attorneys’ withdrawal from the case.” Because the career legal team knows the arguments they have to push are bogus? Didn't stop four Conservative "judges" (hacks) from supporting the measure who's only purpose is to unfairly tilt elections to white Republican states.
SoCal Deek Posted July 10, 2019 Posted July 10, 2019 8 minutes ago, Tiberius said: You are not following the argument very well at all. If you follow the constitution, follow it. You can't cherry pick when you follow it. So if I follow your argument you’d like the WORLD population to elect the President of the United States? Fantastic! Every ten years we’ll selectively flood our borders with foreigners so we can tilt the electoral college in favor of democrats. Brilliant.
Boca BIlls Posted July 10, 2019 Posted July 10, 2019 What is to prevent these people from lying even if it goes on?
Tiberius Posted July 10, 2019 Posted July 10, 2019 By David A. Fahrenthold July 9 at 7:00 PM President Trump’s golf resort in Doral, Fla., is scheduled to host a golf tournament Saturday put on by a Miami-area strip club, which will allow golfers to pay for a dancer to serve as their “caddy girl” while they play at the president’s club. The “Shadow All Star Tournament” is organized by the Shadow Cabaret, a strip club in Hialeah, Fla. Emanuele Mancuso, Shadow Cabaret’s marketing director, said in a telephone interview that this was the first time the club had held a tournament at Trump Doral. The Trump name and family crest are displayed prominently in the strip club’s advertising materials, which offer golfers the “caddy girl of your choice.” Mancuso said the strip club did not intend to send a political statement by choosing Trump’s resort. Rather, he said, the choice was for luxury. These golfers are VIPs, Mancuso said. “They deserve a VIP environment.” Mancuso said there would be no nudity at the resort. On the course, he said, the caddies would wear pink miniskirts and what he called “a sexy white polo.” Afterward, however, the golfers and the dancers would return to another venue — the cabaret itself — for what he described as a “very tasteful” burlesque show, which could involve nudity. “They’re going to be clothed the whole time” at the golf course, Mancuso said. “At the venue is different.” In a statement, the Trump Organization confirmed the event is happening and said it was for a “worthwhile cause” — a Miami children’s charity. A spokeswoman said the company had not approved the tournament’s advertisements before they were published. Trump still owns Doral — and all his other businesses — while in office, but he has given day-to-day control to his sons Don Jr. and Eric. Doral is better known for a different kind of golf tournament, a long-running PGA Tour event that was last played there in 2016. It is one of the jewels of Trump’s hotel empire — a legendary 57-year-old golf resort that Trump bought for $150 million in 2012. After Trump entered politics, however, the club lost the famous tournament, and its revenue began to decline, according to documents that Trump’s company provided to Miami-Dade County in a tax dispute. Those documents showed that the club’s net operating income fell 69 percent between 2015 and 2017. The club’s revenue rebounded slightly in 2018, according to Trump’s financial disclosure forms. “They are severely underperforming” other resorts in the area, said a tax consultant for Trump’s company, arguing in a public hearing that the county should lower the resort’s tax assessment. She blamed the Trump name: “There is some negative connotation that is associated with the brand.” Shadow Cabaret advertises that its strip club offers all-nude dancers, a laser light show and a decor inspired by the Miami drug epic “Scarface.” It has been advertising the golf tournament at Doral online, on Facebook, on Instagram and via the industry website exoticdancer.com. It offers packages that claim to combine hotel rooms at Doral with services at the strip club: a $1,000 “VIP Upgrade,” for instance, includes three days at the hotel and “1/2 Hour VIP Room + Bottle @ Club.” Mancuso, the cabaret’s marketing director, said the first event connected with the tournament will be a reception at the cabaret on Friday night. “If you enroll before the 10th [of July], you are able to pick out your caddie girl,” he said. “Everybody that enrolled after the 10th, they’re going to have an auction” that night. Mancuso said the dancers would drive a golf cart and not carry golf bags as some caddies do. “They’re actually going through training, most of the girls,” to be able to advise players on golf shots, he said. Mancuso said the tournament would benefit a basketball-themed charity called Miami All Stars. Online advertisements for the tournament also include logos for the Jr. NBA and Jr. WNBA. Carlos Alamilla, the charity’s director, said his group serves about 40 youths in Miami. “We provide everything. We provide fitness, nutrition, basketball and academics,” he said. The charity’s website says it is “a non-profit organization under the laws of the State of Florida.” However, Franco Ripple, a spokesman for the state, said Tuesday that it is not registered as a charity in Florida. Alamilla did not immediately respond to questions about why his organization’s name was missing from state records. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/strip-club-to-host-golf-tournament-at-trump-resort-in-south-florida/2019/07/09/52a83504-a266-11e9-bd56-eac6bb02d01d_story.html?utm_term=.26f49a60c303 prostitution at a Trump resort? No! 39 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: So if I follow your argument you’d like the WORLD population to elect the President of the United States? Fantastic! Every ten years we’ll selectively flood our borders with foreigners so we can tilt the electoral college in favor of democrats. Brilliant. You are not following any argument I made
RochesterRob Posted July 10, 2019 Posted July 10, 2019 15 minutes ago, Tiberius said: By David A. Fahrenthold July 9 at 7:00 PM President Trump’s golf resort in Doral, Fla., is scheduled to host a golf tournament Saturday put on by a Miami-area strip club, which will allow golfers to pay for a dancer to serve as their “caddy girl” while they play at the president’s club. The “Shadow All Star Tournament” is organized by the Shadow Cabaret, a strip club in Hialeah, Fla. Emanuele Mancuso, Shadow Cabaret’s marketing director, said in a telephone interview that this was the first time the club had held a tournament at Trump Doral. The Trump name and family crest are displayed prominently in the strip club’s advertising materials, which offer golfers the “caddy girl of your choice.” Mancuso said the strip club did not intend to send a political statement by choosing Trump’s resort. Rather, he said, the choice was for luxury. These golfers are VIPs, Mancuso said. “They deserve a VIP environment.” Mancuso said there would be no nudity at the resort. On the course, he said, the caddies would wear pink miniskirts and what he called “a sexy white polo.” Afterward, however, the golfers and the dancers would return to another venue — the cabaret itself — for what he described as a “very tasteful” burlesque show, which could involve nudity. “They’re going to be clothed the whole time” at the golf course, Mancuso said. “At the venue is different.” In a statement, the Trump Organization confirmed the event is happening and said it was for a “worthwhile cause” — a Miami children’s charity. A spokeswoman said the company had not approved the tournament’s advertisements before they were published. Trump still owns Doral — and all his other businesses — while in office, but he has given day-to-day control to his sons Don Jr. and Eric. Doral is better known for a different kind of golf tournament, a long-running PGA Tour event that was last played there in 2016. It is one of the jewels of Trump’s hotel empire — a legendary 57-year-old golf resort that Trump bought for $150 million in 2012. After Trump entered politics, however, the club lost the famous tournament, and its revenue began to decline, according to documents that Trump’s company provided to Miami-Dade County in a tax dispute. Those documents showed that the club’s net operating income fell 69 percent between 2015 and 2017. The club’s revenue rebounded slightly in 2018, according to Trump’s financial disclosure forms. “They are severely underperforming” other resorts in the area, said a tax consultant for Trump’s company, arguing in a public hearing that the county should lower the resort’s tax assessment. She blamed the Trump name: “There is some negative connotation that is associated with the brand.” Shadow Cabaret advertises that its strip club offers all-nude dancers, a laser light show and a decor inspired by the Miami drug epic “Scarface.” It has been advertising the golf tournament at Doral online, on Facebook, on Instagram and via the industry website exoticdancer.com. It offers packages that claim to combine hotel rooms at Doral with services at the strip club: a $1,000 “VIP Upgrade,” for instance, includes three days at the hotel and “1/2 Hour VIP Room + Bottle @ Club.” Mancuso, the cabaret’s marketing director, said the first event connected with the tournament will be a reception at the cabaret on Friday night. “If you enroll before the 10th [of July], you are able to pick out your caddie girl,” he said. “Everybody that enrolled after the 10th, they’re going to have an auction” that night. Mancuso said the dancers would drive a golf cart and not carry golf bags as some caddies do. “They’re actually going through training, most of the girls,” to be able to advise players on golf shots, he said. Mancuso said the tournament would benefit a basketball-themed charity called Miami All Stars. Online advertisements for the tournament also include logos for the Jr. NBA and Jr. WNBA. Carlos Alamilla, the charity’s director, said his group serves about 40 youths in Miami. “We provide everything. We provide fitness, nutrition, basketball and academics,” he said. The charity’s website says it is “a non-profit organization under the laws of the State of Florida.” However, Franco Ripple, a spokesman for the state, said Tuesday that it is not registered as a charity in Florida. Alamilla did not immediately respond to questions about why his organization’s name was missing from state records. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/strip-club-to-host-golf-tournament-at-trump-resort-in-south-florida/2019/07/09/52a83504-a266-11e9-bd56-eac6bb02d01d_story.html?utm_term=.26f49a60c303 prostitution at a Trump resort? No! You are not following any argument I made The Trump facilities are only holding the event versus being a primary sponsor. Further, we all know there will be no restrictions such as conservatives only! It will be up to the strip club to make sure all the women are legally eligible to be employed at the event and with the Epstein situation Trump's resort will be scrutinizing this.
Gary M Posted July 10, 2019 Posted July 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Tiberius said: You are not following the argument very well at all. If you follow the constitution, follow it. You can't cherry pick when you follow it. As Buffalo_Gal pointed out, the Constitution saws that if you break the law you don't count. I believe every illegal alien has done that. So yes please let's follow it. "Section 2. Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State." 1 hour ago, RochesterRob said: The Trump facilities are only holding the event versus being a primary sponsor. Further, we all know there will be no restrictions such as conservatives only! It will be up to the strip club to make sure all the women are legally eligible to be employed at the event and with the Epstein situation Trump's resort will be scrutinizing this. In other news..... two legal businesses are doing business !!! 1
row_33 Posted July 10, 2019 Posted July 10, 2019 follow the Constitution??? wise words from someone who spends all day saying the direct opposite of anyone with a 3 digit IQ
row_33 Posted July 10, 2019 Posted July 10, 2019 14 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Golf, ya gotta love it. I played in a few tournaments with interesting things going on for other groups.
Hedge Posted July 10, 2019 Posted July 10, 2019 3 hours ago, Boca BIlls said: What is to prevent these people from lying even if it goes on? Not much, just a small fine. $100 for omitting answers. $500 for false answers. 13 U.S. Code § 221. Refusal or neglect to answer questions; false answers And I am sure, the Leftists would wage a campaign to push illegal aliens to simply "identify" as Americans, because the language includes the phrase "willfully gives any answer that is false". And, for what it is worth, this article claims no one has gotten in trouble for just ignoring the Census in the last ~50 years: Americans must answer U.S. Census Bureau survey by law, though agency hasn't prosecuted since 1970 (it also claims the fine could be as much as $5,000, citing: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/3571)
row_33 Posted July 10, 2019 Posted July 10, 2019 14 minutes ago, Hedge said: Not much, just a small fine. $100 for omitting answers. $500 for false answers. 13 U.S. Code § 221. Refusal or neglect to answer questions; false answers And I am sure, the Leftists would wage a campaign to push illegal aliens to simply "identify" as Americans, because the language includes the phrase "willfully gives any answer that is false". And, for what it is worth, this article claims no one has gotten in trouble for just ignoring the Census in the last ~50 years: Americans must answer U.S. Census Bureau survey by law, though agency hasn't prosecuted since 1970 (it also claims the fine could be as much as $5,000, citing: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/3571) worked a few summers on Census as a student, it was so painful to get accurate and people honestly wanted to help..... up to a point. had one household where the 3 kids were off to camp or at a relatives house and the government forced everyone to register their location that day. I feel so guilty forcing them to do this stupid stupid nonsense
Buffalo_Gal Posted July 10, 2019 Posted July 10, 2019 8 minutes ago, row_33 said: worked a few summers on Census as a student, it was so painful to get accurate and people honestly wanted to help..... up to a point. had one household where the 3 kids were off to camp or at a relatives house and the government forced everyone to register their location that day. I feel so guilty forcing them to do this stupid stupid nonsense The last census we had to be interviewed. They had a very long form and asked tons of questions to the point where it was very intrusive. If they knocked for the same thing this time, I'd say I was heading out the door for a flight and would not be back for six months (last time I avoided them twice, but the third time was a "charm"). 1
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