MILFHUNTER#518 Posted July 3, 2019 Author Posted July 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: In 2030? By then the demographics will already have been baked in. https://nypost.com/2019/07/02/trump-wants-successful-conclusion-to-census-citizenship-question-case/
Tiberius Posted July 3, 2019 Posted July 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, MILFHUNTER#518 said: https://nypost.com/2019/07/02/trump-wants-successful-conclusion-to-census-citizenship-question-case/ Well, if the Supreme Court calls them out for lying to them about this, what's to stop them from simply ignoring the law and the constitution? Trump has has no respect for the constitution
row_33 Posted July 3, 2019 Posted July 3, 2019 1 hour ago, MILFHUNTER#518 said: Oh so now you are an originalist all of a sudden LOL. The supreme court ruled the question constitutional, it will be added in due time. Should be interesting to see how he goes about it knowing they have already started printing the census without it. your country founded itself on the concept of a moral people submitting to a republic of laws when emotionalism and being "a tool" are the only intellectual resources of people like Tibs, it cannot hold, fortunately they are only about 10% of the population
DC Tom Posted July 3, 2019 Posted July 3, 2019 2 hours ago, Tiberius said: "Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each States ..." persons...We have to live under the constitution and so do you. That does not prohibit ASKING THEM QUESTIONS, you unmitigated loon.
Tiberius Posted July 3, 2019 Posted July 3, 2019 14 minutes ago, DC Tom said: That does not prohibit ASKING THEM QUESTIONS, you unmitigated loon. Then they shouldn't have had to lie to the Supreme Court about it then. But, since it's a naked power grab, they had to. Tom ? 50 minutes ago, row_33 said: your country founded itself on the concept of a moral people submitting to a republic of laws when emotionalism and being "a tool" are the only intellectual resources of people like Tibs, it cannot hold, fortunately they are only about 10% of the population That's mean of you Row
row_33 Posted July 3, 2019 Posted July 3, 2019 31 minutes ago, DC Tom said: That does not prohibit ASKING THEM QUESTIONS, you unmitigated loon. incorrigible knucklehead is a good one as well probably described them as such on their kindergarten report card
Deranged Rhino Posted July 3, 2019 Posted July 3, 2019 24 hour rule seems to work almost every time. 2 1
SoCal Deek Posted July 3, 2019 Posted July 3, 2019 Why not just call it a ‘questionnaire’ and send it out anyway? Screw the swamp! 2
Koko78 Posted July 3, 2019 Posted July 3, 2019 Eh, *****'em. Put the question in the census and let the liberal judges try to order the Executive Branch to violate the Constitution by not conducting the census. 5
Buffalo_Gal Posted July 7, 2019 Posted July 7, 2019 29 minutes ago, B-Man said: . Why would anyone think counting illegals for representation is a normal thing to do? They are here ILLEGALLY. The only thing they should count for is deportation numbers. 1
row_33 Posted July 7, 2019 Posted July 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Why would anyone think counting illegals for representation is a normal thing to do? They are here ILLEGALLY. The only thing they should count for is deportation numbers. They are angrily determined to call all common sense and natural barriers as evil and punishing.
DC Tom Posted July 7, 2019 Posted July 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Why would anyone think counting illegals for representation is a normal thing to do? They are here ILLEGALLY. The only thing they should count for is deportation numbers. 14th Amendment says otherwise. Representation is based on "the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed.," Of course, it also strongly implies that determining such eligibility is the right of the states', and allows for an abridgement of representation in proportion to the abridgement of voting rights. The 14th is a pretty weird amendment. 1
row_33 Posted July 7, 2019 Posted July 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, DC Tom said: 14th Amendment says otherwise. Representation is based on "the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed.," Of course, it also strongly implies that determining such eligibility is the right of the states', and allows for an abridgement of representation in proportion to the abridgement of voting rights. The 14th is a pretty weird amendment. They don’t need no stinking Amendment to go with their emotions and feelings of the week
Koko78 Posted July 7, 2019 Posted July 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, DC Tom said: 14th Amendment says otherwise. Representation is based on "the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed.," Of course, it also strongly implies that determining such eligibility is the right of the states', and allows for an abridgement of representation in proportion to the abridgement of voting rights. The 14th is a pretty weird amendment. So under the SWJ code, using the term "Indians" in the text of the 14th Amendment invalidates the entire provision, because the language is not inclusive and is hateful. Am I doing this right? 1
DC Tom Posted July 7, 2019 Posted July 7, 2019 Just now, Koko78 said: So under the SWJ code, using the term "Indians" in the text of the 14th Amendment invalidates the entire provision, because the language is not inclusive and is hateful. Am I doing this right? No. You're overdoing it. Just scream "The Constitution and voting rights are racist!!!" and tell all your friends they have to choose between their MAGA hats or you.
row_33 Posted July 7, 2019 Posted July 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Koko78 said: So under the SWJ code, using the term "Indians" in the text of the 14th Amendment invalidates the entire provision, because the language is not inclusive and is hateful. Am I doing this right? You will never win with them They just want to argue and will twist everything around to keep it going
Buffalo_Gal Posted July 7, 2019 Posted July 7, 2019 1 minute ago, DC Tom said: 14th Amendment says otherwise. Representation is based on "the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed.," Of course, it also strongly implies that determining such eligibility is the right of the states', and allows for an abridgement of representation in proportion to the abridgement of voting rights. The 14th is a pretty weird amendment. Cool image! Full text (from wiki): Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Section 2. Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State. Section 3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may, by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability. Section 4. The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void. Section 5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.[1] 1
row_33 Posted July 7, 2019 Posted July 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Cool image! Full text (from wiki): Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Section 2. Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State. Section 3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may, by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability. Section 4. The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void. Section 5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.[1] They will do whatever the heck they want to
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