YoloinOhio Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 1 minute ago, WideNine said: No one is trashing the hire, just questioning how thorough the positional hiring process is at OBD - if anything, I usually trend towards giving the new Bills regime the benefit of the doubt. Outside of leaning on connections in the Panthers org, it would be a curious thing that they hired a guy whose coaching resume is tissue-thin with one whole year as an assistant ST coach with the Panthers. It is fair to want to look under the hood and better understand how they landed on that guy - you kind of have to assume someone in the Panthers org told McBeane that this guy was worth giving a shot. That does not mean he will fail, but if he does - the question is going to be asked again later by the media and everyone else. My biggest question on this surrounds the hiring of the WR coaches the past 2 years, both only lasted one. Maybe has to do with OC change though.
CardinalScotts Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 13 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: What about him? He served his 1 year culture carrier purpose imo. I’m talking actually negative stuff. you would be the first guy crying if the would have hired Reich
Mountain Man Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: My biggest question on this surrounds the hiring of the WR coaches the past 2 years, both only lasted one. Maybe has to do with OC change though. You mean the WR coaches WITHOUT Panthers connections? 1
YoloinOhio Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 Just now, CardinalScotts said: you would be the first guy crying if the would have hired Reich I’m lost I think. Crying about Reich? I think you are confusing me with someone else maybe... ? also what does Reich have to do with Tolbert?
Trogdor Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 33 minutes ago, GimmeSomeProcess said: I love the hire won’t be worse than crossman and it would be great to actually develop the next great special teams coach Usually experienced HCs develop other coaches, not guys who are still struggling to learn their jobs. That being said, if he can cut back on penalties and make sure they know their jobs then it's a big win.
Bill Murray Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 (edited) To be fair to the "there is a Carolina pipeline" narrative people, there have been a lot of players with connections: Tolbert Benjamin Star Kaelin Clay Joe Webb Derek Anderson Leonard Johnson Dean Marlowe Newhouse (traded to Carolina from Buffalo) Now i dont think it matters and think Beane and McD are doing a great job, but to say its a false narrative is understating the connection by an equal amount as people saying they only hire Carolina people and its weak. Both sides are far from reality https://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nfl/carolina-panthers/article173506866.html https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2018/8/9/17669920/buffalo-bills-are-loaded-with-former-carolina-panthers-sean-mcdermott-brandon-beane-kelvin-benjamin https://www.catscratchreader.com/2018/3/30/17177796/are-the-nfl-carolina-panthers-buffalo-bills-in-a-committed-long-term-relationship http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/24796233/marshall-newhouse-traded-carolina-panthers-buffalo-bills Edited January 15, 2019 by Bill Murray
Bad Things Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 It's so funny how so many fans, have such strong feelings and opinions about coaches they have no idea about. 5
Real McClappy Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Mat68 said: Experience is not always worth more than potential. True that. You should make T-shirts or write fortune cookies Edited January 15, 2019 by Real McCoy
Mat68 Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 Just now, Real McCoy said: True that. You should make T-shirts or write fortune cookies I was thinking about something to say vs all the assumed Carolina connection. But I know nothing about the guy and who here really knows anything in regards to who is a good position coach? 1
Real McClappy Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Mat68 said: I was thinking about something to say vs all the assumed Carolina connection. But I know nothing about the guy and who here really knows anything in regards to who is a good position coach? I love seeing how twisted some get from the Carolina pipeline. It honestly doesn't bother me at all for a ST coach. You have to start somewhere to become great. After reading the article on this guy I'm happy about the hire and youth he brings to the table. Edited January 15, 2019 by Real McCoy 2
RiotAct Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 3 hours ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: Even the boo on everything panthers crowd has to agree that this hire is an upgrade over Danny. I’D be an upgrade over Danny. 1
GunnerBill Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 19 minutes ago, Bill Murray said: To be fair to the "there is a Carolina pipeline" narrative people, there have been a lot of players with connections: Tolbert Benjamin Star Kaelin Clay Joe Webb Derek Anderson Leonard Johnson Dean Marlowe Newhouse (traded to Carolina from Buffalo) .... and his package. 3
Philo Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 9 minutes ago, Real McCoy said: I love seeing how twisted some get from the Carolina pipeline. It honestly doesn't bother me at all for a ST coach. You have to start somewhere to become great. After reading the article on this guy I'm happy about the hire and youth he brings to the table. The Carolina connection is essentially non-existent on this one. So many knee jerk reactions by people ready to complain about something. 1
LABILLBACKER Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 2 hours ago, End The Drought said: This is how coaching trees work chief. The Panthers were Super Bowl contenders in 2016. Not sure how hiring a young coach who happens to be a former special teams pro bowler could be a bad thing. Also did you happen to watch any bills games this year? Just about any ST coach would be an upgrade 1. Could care less about the Panther connection. 2. As others have so eloquently mentioned anyone would be better than Crossman. 3. Love the fact he's young, hands on and probably innovative. 4. Now draft Braden Mann, protect House$ at all costs and revamp the punt/ko coverage.
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 None of this matters if we don't upgrade Kicker and Punter. 6 misses from beyond 40 isn't exactly hausch money imo. And we had the worst group of punters in the NFL. 1
Lurker Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 1 hour ago, K-9 said: Expand your knowledge. Not likely to happen...
B-Man Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 3 hours ago, Augie said: I have a Golden Retriever who just might be an upgrade over Danny. ? 2
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