YoloinOhio Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 1 minute ago, BillsFanForever19 said: No. If he's the best man for the job, he's the best man for the job. But they're a first time HC and a first time GM. It's a really bad look to consistently be reaching out to your former team for everything. They obviously don't care. If it works, it works. But when it doesn't (KB?), they look like they don't know what they're doing. Still haven’t checked those notes eh.... keep digging 1 1
FeelingOnYouboty Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 People are being negative to just be negative at this point LOL! ST's more than anything is about attitude and energy. This guy has both, a long playing career, young and thinks young as he's into analytics. Who were you guys expecting to hire? 1 1
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 Honestly with all the rule changes, it’s basically impossible to be super innovative on STs. Just don’t be awful. I will say teams are drafting punters and kickers more than ever so that might be something to keep an eye on. Sucks to spend a draft pick on that but Seattle drafted a pro bowl P who really helped their team.
Tatonka68 Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 It will not be hard to improve the special teams from last year. LOL!
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 21 minutes ago, McBean said: He’s from Carolina. It’s over. Let the fat lady sing.
End The Drought Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 6 minutes ago, Ittakestime said: The Carolina nonsense is getting nauseating. Expand your horizons. This is how coaching trees work chief. The Panthers were Super Bowl contenders in 2016. Not sure how hiring a young coach who happens to be a former special teams pro bowler could be a bad thing. Also did you happen to watch any bills games this year? Just about any ST coach would be an upgrade
BillsFanForever19 Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Still haven’t checked those notes eh.... keep digging Specifically assistant coaches, correct. They haven't and I shouldn't have specified coaches. But overall with this team - you can't argue that there's in an inordinate amount of holes in Buffalo that seem to get filled by the Carolina Panthers pipeline. Even the national media picks up on it.
bills_fan Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 Sounds like he will be a good hire. I like that he's young, up and coming and open to new ideas.
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 19 minutes ago, wppete said: Like I was saying we will end up with the scraps after everyone else had the experience hires. Wild, do you know the complete list of interviewees? Do you know what offers we made? Do you know the internal decisions that were made? Because if you don't, there is no plausible way you can infer that they were just "waiting" around. 1
Ittakestime Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 1 minute ago, End The Drought said: This is how coaching trees work chief. The Panthers were Super Bowl contenders in 2016. Not sure how hiring a young coach who happens to be a former special teams pro bowler could be a bad thing. Also did you happen to watch any bills games this year? Just about any ST coach would be an upgrade We were hiring an assistant ST coach which means that it would be a promotion for a coach. This means we could have looked at any Assistant ST coach out there. I find it hard to believe, that the best assistant ST coach in the whole league just happened to be in Carolina.
YoloinOhio Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Specifically assistant coaches, correct. They haven't and I shouldn't have specified coaches. But overall with this team - you can't argue that there's in an inordinate amount of holes in Buffalo that seem to get filled by the Carolina Panthers pipeline. Even the national media picks up on it. Define “inordinate.” No FO members either. Dan Morgan played there but was not in the FO. He came from the Seahawks. And this is a thread about a coaching hire so makes zero sense to judge it based on that fact they signed some players from there. Commonplace stuff for any team with familiarity of players and system/scheme/culture. They also cut some from there. Own your uninformed take, please. Edited January 15, 2019 by YoloinOhio 2 1
Meazy26 Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 Just now, Ittakestime said: We were hiring an assistant ST coach which means that it would be a promotion for a coach. This means we could have looked at any Assistant ST coach out there. I find it hard to believe, that the best assistant ST coach in the whole league just happened to be in Carolina. All is well. His left toe is probably better than Crossman. We’ve upgraded. 1
billieve420 Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 19 minutes ago, Thunderstruck said: Well he sure seems likeable in this picture. I mean, look at that smile. There's a guy who loves his job. Haha that is Chase Blackburn the special teams coordinator for the Panthers. There is a picture of Farwell later in the article.
Heitz Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 Not sure how anyone could read that article and be less than excited for this hire - young guy, respected by the player, wants perfection from himself as well as his players. Guessing though that many didn't read the article (or past the word Carolina), give it a try TBD, you might like what you see!
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 Wasn't he only with Carolina after Beane/McD left? 3
Just Joshin' Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 Does anyone have facts why this is a bad hire? I do not know if this is good or bad. But how people can know an assistant coaches strengths and weaknesses is amazing.
Freddie's Dead Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 Sweeeeeeet Carolina! BUP BUP BAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH 1
BillsFanForever19 Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 Just now, YoloinOhio said: Define “inordinate.” No FO members either. Dan Morgan played there but was not in the FO. And this is a thread about a coaching hire so makes zero sense to judge it based on that fact they signed some players from there. They also cut some from there. Own your uninformed take, please. I owned the 'coaches' part in the last post, "slappy". Not sure what else you want. Or why you're singling me out when i'm far from the only person here (or in the media) pointing out that the Carolina/Ron Rivera connection gets reached out to often. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/01/15/heath-farwell-headed-to-bills-as-special-teams-coach/ In the past few years, moves from the Panthers to the Bills have become a frequent occurrence for players, coaches and executives and it appears the pipeline remains open.
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 7 minutes ago, Ittakestime said: We were hiring an assistant ST coach which means that it would be a promotion for a coach. This means we could have looked at any Assistant ST coach out there. I find it hard to believe, that the best assistant ST coach in the whole league just happened to be in Carolina. Yessss. I knew this dumb take was coming. And its better that it came from one of the "usual suspects"
Dr. K Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 I'm tired of the umbilical that ties McBeane to Carolina, but I'm not against the hire. It just raises the question of whether they do due diligence on their coaching and player decisions.
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